Discussion Political leaning

[greenlight]

I just ended up accepting that elites do whatever they want and it always be the case, you cannot just constant them with some kind of an ideological framework. Not that it's bad in itself, but they are clearly mismanaging society right now

 

[Wayfaerer]

The truth is you can't trust any human in power whether they are private sector or public. We are either naive and idealistic at best or machiavellian at worst.

 

[Santiago]

Far right, but I like to think I am rational enough to listen to others their opinions. Sometimes somebody I completely disagree with says something that changes my mind on a subject.

 

[I_Am_Trashman]

As far left as possible without mass incarceration.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

I don't have enough faith in humanity to have any leaning.

 

[Hunter100]

I am a conservative and proud of it. Hate the propaganda machine we call the media. Everyone else would also if they did the amount of research I have done. I used to be liberal until about 3 years ago. The party of the left has become taken over with SJWs, socialism, cancel culture and absurd insanity.

 

[Eren]

I was left-wing for a long time in my life. For a few years I have considered myself a libertarian.

 

[netrezven]

And you consider yourself "a superior human being... and the smartest person in the room 90% of the time."

You claim to "run mental laps around people," those people being so very "vapid and uninteresting."

It's fascinating that with all of that dazzling intellectual prowess, all you can manage to cobble together is "politics are dumb," and a feeble interpretation of that pathetically hackneyed standby, Cleatus the slack-jawed yokel.

Because naturally, anyone who doesn't support your erudite and superior way of thinking must be an inbred hill person, right? What a original concept, and what a rib-tickling bon mot. Just precious, really.

Well i personally know some "politics" and alot more not in person. I have used to give some idiots some power over time. And take it away too. I can confirm - they are all dump. They are ready to sell everyone else after they have already sold themselfs, for money. Not for ideal, moral or anything more. Just money. That's the only way such people can make a living. I'm not sure that it all starts at once, as a purpose, but it always ends there. They have to leave any kind of dignity and moral, while pretending to present both. I have said it before, in time some really start to think that they have some kind of power. But it's never a power to do good and be creative. It's simply a power to sell others. Afther all this pandemic stuff, i can say that most of the people deserve this order, and humanity have and uses more than it desevers.

 

[KleinerWolf]

Close to centre, a little bit to the right.
I tolerate others' opinions.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I wish I'd been on the forum when @gingerplum was active and @Blackjack and @Stan were still alive. I love witty repartee. This was so enjoyable to read.

 

[mediocre]

5 years ago I would've said pretty far left. But recently I feel like I've been pushed more to the center. But I don't really say I'm left or right because on some issues Im considered left wing and others i'm considered right wing.

I think because I'm gay there is an expectation that I must be super left and "woke" but I'm far from it nowadays.

I wish I'd been on the forum when @gingerplum was active and @Blackjack and @Stan were still alive. I love witty repartee. This was so enjoyable to read.

I really liked them even if I didn't always agree! They were very witty indeed. I miss them.

 

[iDieUDie80]

I started out a conservative from what I gathered from my father, as I did my own research and exploring, I became a right-libertarian, as I did even more digging, I now consider myself an anarchist communist.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

I'm a theocratic, cultural hegemonist. We cannont trust human leaders, and instead must put our faith in the Gods. I support the use of execution to purge those who would oppose my political ideology, but any who are believers walk the blessed path, and will journey into the divine beyond!

 

[Emily_Numb]

I would regard myself as 'Alt-lite' meaning;
a loosely-defined right-wing political movement whose members regard themselves as separate from both mainstream conservatism and the far-right, white nationalist perspective characteristic of the alt-right.

 

[Sensei]

At heart I'm an anarchist or a communist in the original sense of the word, but in practice I'm a democratic socialist, i.e. reformist and non-avant-garde. I used to be very passionate about politics, but I'm starting to become disillusioned. For democracy to work, people need to think, and most don't. It feels pointless to fight for people who don't care, really.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I'm a theocratic, cultural hegemonist. We cannont trust human leaders, and instead must put our faith in the Gods. I support the use of execution to purge those who would oppose my political ideology, but any who are believers walk the blessed path, and will journey into the divine beyond!

I am opposed. Will you please execute me with N?

Shit, I probably should have asked about the method first before disclosing my opposition. I hope the Gods advise benevolent means. I eagerly await your/Their reply.

 

[Sensei]

I am opposed. Will you please execute me with N?

Shit, I probably should have asked about the method first before disclosing my opposition. I hope the Gods advise benevolent means. I eagerly await your/Their reply.

Death by theocracy? That's a new one.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Death by theocracy? That's a new one.

Very old one: Old Testament. Q'uran. Christian Crusades.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Antihumanist/antinatalist.
The world would have been better off if humans never got started. I like nature and animals, just not humans. They are destructive, egotistical, cruel and violent on a level beyond anything seen in the natural world.
So that's my political leaning.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

I am opposed. Will you please execute me with N?

Shit, I probably should have asked about the method first before disclosing my opposition. I hope the Gods advise benevolent means. I eagerly await your/Their reply.

I should have mentioned that my post was mean't to be a joke reference to something. Sorry to dissapoint you - I can't even find N myself.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I should have mentioned that my post was mean't to be a joke reference to something. Sorry to dissapoint you - I can't even find N myself.

I was joking back. I assumed death by any means would not be involved. And hegemonic powers generally don't go the benevolent and merciful route, that doesn't set a fearful example to others.

 

[Zappfe lover]

Antihumanist/antinatalist.
The world would have been better off if humans never got started. I like nature and animals, just not humans. They are destructive, egotistical, cruel and violent on a level beyond anything seen in the natural world.
So that's my political leaning.

Nature is also really bad, though. You don't need a human to make a baby penguin freeze to death

 

[kane]

I tend to lean left on economic and environmental issues, but find myself somewhere in between both sides on most polarizing social and cultural questions. I might describe myself as a 'cautious socialist' or a social democrat/green, but I try to keep in mind how limited my knowledge is - maybe free market globalism really is the best of all possible worlds? The big question then would be how do you sustain it and avoid environmental collapse?

 

[mathieu]

I am pretty left wing.

 

[ravergirl]

Radical queer who wants to burn down the patriarchy.

 

[Apathy79]

I considered myself centre-left in the 90s and centre-right now. And essentially believe the same things. Protect the country, the capitalist system, and those left behind by it. The latter was the main concern most of my life, as the other 2 were largely givens, but that's shifted in the last decade or so, thus the approximate shift in alignment, although it's always in limbo to some extent.

I think the primary downside of the right is nationalism and lack of compassion or awareness for those not suited by the capitalist system. I like the right when compassion and diplomacy are at the forefront, because their natural inclination for protecting the country and system is a given.

I think the primary downside of the left is a victim/martyr mentality that permiates almost everything, and it seems to be rooted in Marxist philosophy, which is particularly dangerous. I like the left when protection of the country and capitalist system is at the forefront, because the social safety net is always safe with them.

So I like both when they drift towards the centre, which generally means more benign approaches based in love and less vitriol. I dislike both when they drift towards the extremes and start hating everything about the other, which unfortunately is becoming more common.

 

[Grey-zone]

Nature is also really bad, though. You don't need a human to make a baby penguin freeze to death

This really applies to life itself--the dictum that humans were a mistake. Nature is astoundingly cruel from a sentient perspective.

I am center-right/left mixed with nihilist/anarchist fantasies.

 

[Zappfe lover]

Socially, I'm definetely left leaning, but that's more on a conceptual level. As far as actual activism goes, I have serious critiques to both sides.

Economically, I'm a social democrat. I would recommend the recently released book "Capital and Ideology" by Thomas Piketty. He shows how a social democracy can help reduce inequalities in a capatalist society without the need of a marxist revolution.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Nature is also really bad, though. You don't need a human to make a baby penguin freeze to death

True, but in nature that just happens randomly, there is no malevolent intention behind it, even though it is cruel and harsh. But it takes a human to club a baby seal to death (undoubtedly enjoying the experience otherwise they wouldn't do it) to make a profit from its hide, or to tie a piglet or possum to a mechanical lure after separating it from its mother, to be flung around a greyhound track while greyhounds chase it and tear it to pieces (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-racing-greyhounds-in-australia-10050585.html) , or to just torture pigs, cows, chickens to death in mass slaughterhouses.

 

[Zappfe lover]

True, but in nature that just happens randomly, there is no malevolent intention behind it, even though it is cruel and harsh. But it takes a human to club a baby seal to death (undoubtedly enjoying the experience otherwise they wouldn't do it) to make a profit from its hide, or to tie a piglet or possum to a mechanical lure after separating it from its mother, to be flung around a greyhound track while greyhounds chase it and tear it to pieces (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-racing-greyhounds-in-australia-10050585.html) , or to just torture pigs, cows, chickens to death in mass slaughterhouses.

Never said that humans were great, but even then, morality does not exist in a vacuum. Suffering does, though.

Yes, the lion isn't aware of his "wrongdoings". It does not change the fact that his prey feels an absurd amount of pain whilst being eaten alive.