Discussion Political leaning

[Luchs]

You're an ard

What does that mean?

 

[gingerplum]

What does that mean?

It means I started to type "you're an ardent __________" something or other, then I got distracted or fell asleep

 

[mk47]

I'm socially very, very right and economically a borderline communist. I really hate it. I'm too left for most right wingers and too right wing for most left wingers. What complicates this even further is that I'm a monarchist and do support Austrofascism. I'm just a disgusting chimera of political believes.

I didn't understand anything yo wrote, could you please explain it?

In what sense? Are you a Nazi as in far-right, antisemetic NSDAP national socialist or a person that believes in a combination of nationalism and socialism?

It was in jest

 

[Empty Smile]

Just throwing this out there. Let the anger flow.

 

[Misanthrope]

I am waiting for a rationalist party to show up and overhaul the broken political systems we have. One that does not ignore reality in favour of ideological narrative. That wants costed policies that have some accountability built into them. One that treats oppositional debates like a debate club and demands sources are cited and questions are actually answered! That views the opposition as not an enemy but a counterpoint.That people that boo and jeer are thrown out because it is not a pantomime. Same for if they sleep, show up drunk or coked out their mind, they get a warning and then fired. (This is what happens in every other job I can think of! not politics though just apologise and it is all fine.) A party that pushes to get rid of ridiculous biases that skew results regardless of what side you are on. Gerrymandering, and first past the post need to go, there are more sensible systems out there. As does lobbying with financial incentive. Until all that happens it does not matter what your political leaning is. As your vote has little mathematical merit and the structures in place cause you to gain the opposite of what you voted for, even if your elected party won. Till then it all feels like pointless bread and circuses and the illusion of meaningful choice for us plebs.

 

[Lefty]

I'm more in the center. I lean right on some issues and left on other issues. Moderate to Libertarian.

 

[GlowingCactus]

It means I started to type "you're an ardent __________" something or other, then I got distracted or fell asleep

You caught covfefe syndrome. Resting for a few days should be enough to make your health great again !

 

[buttercup02]

Libertarian.

 

[MeltingHeart]

Far left. Faaar left, as in, I've gone further left than the Dems, the Libertarians, and the Green Party.

I think I may be a Sandinista; I keep meaning to check their website.

Fair warning: This post is probably going to turn into a flame war in short order. Recently I asked people what their trusted news sources were, and in no time the thread had devolved into an absolutely nauseating shitshow of fringe-right conspiracy theory, proud Trump voters, and recommendations for "news" websites that were nothing more than undisguised outlets for supporting racism, misogyny, and xenophobia.

I was disturbed enough after looking at one of the recommendations for what at least one person considered a legitimate news source, that I asked a mod to take the entire thread down.

I've nevr heard of Sandinista?! Will
Have to look up . Dya recks there are loads of far rights in here ?! Oh noooo :(

 

[epic]

Pro universal healthcare
Pro universal education
Pro Free market( other than healthcare and education)
Pro choice
Pro same sex marriage
Pro death penalty
Pro secularism
Freedom of speech(Pro) ,except for direct threat of physical harm or challenging territorial integrity.
Anti communism
Anti subsidies(other than 1 and 2)
Anti identity politics
Anti quotas

 

[Divine Trinity]

Far left. Faaar left, as in, I've gone further left than the Dems, the Libertarians, and the Green Party.

I think I may be a Sandinista; I keep meaning to check their website.

Fair warning: This post is probably going to turn into a flame war in short order. Recently I asked people what their trusted news sources were, and in no time the thread had devolved into an absolutely nauseating shitshow of fringe-right conspiracy theory, proud Trump voters, and recommendations for "news" websites that were nothing more than undisguised outlets for supporting racism, misogyny, and xenophobia.

I was disturbed enough after looking at one of the recommendations for what at least one person considered a legitimate news source, that I asked a mod to take the entire thread down.

To be fair, Al Jazeera and Telesur were safe recommendations. By your comment, TMBS on YT would be a good one too.

 

[Time_To_Die]

I believe in moderation. When I look back over human history, it seems that the most successful societies have been those where change happened through a consensus across the broadest possible range of society. The UK, with its parliamentary system, is a good example of this sort of society - it developed over time from a feudal society in the early 17th century to a society with respect for religious diversity and property rights, eventually to a society with a generous welfare state.

I think the British industrial revolution - which is where all of our modern technology originated - is a very good sign of the sort of progress that can happen in a society based on tolerance, individual liberty, moderation and consensus.

The US is another example of a country which developed through moderation. It has a constitution which ensures that changes in the legal system can only occur through a laborious and litigious process, which can be slowed down considerably or even stopped by any large faction with a strong enough axe to grind.

The trouble with other forms of society is that they are at much greater risk of developing towards despotism and instability. Some nations, like Singapore, have been able to balance an unfree political system with a wildly successful economy and a moderate level of individual rights, but these examples are rare.

 

[Boochky]

I'm neither left nor right, I'm upside down just like my fucking country.

(Just kidding. I'm a big ole leftie.)

 

[Heart of Ice]

Economically leftist, socially conservative, coming from a far-left leaning (not communist, but not far off), liberal home.

 

[Rollo]

Don't have one

 

[gingerplum]

Economically leftist, socially conservative, coming from a far-left leaning (not communist, but not far off), liberal home.

That's so funny, because economically I'm more right leaning, and socially I'm completely far-left.

 

[RainAndSadness]

Far left. Faaar left, as in, I've gone further left than the Dems, the Libertarians, and the Green Party.

Same here. That's unironically my political compass. This is from March 2019:

 

[gingerplum]

Same here. That's unironically my political compass. This is from March 2019:

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Holy shit, you weren't lying! As far as you can get, literally.

 

[Divine Trinity]

I am waiting for a rationalist party to show up and overhaul the broken political systems we have. One that does not ignore reality in favour of ideological narrative. That wants costed policies that have some accountability built into them. One that treats oppositional debates like a debate club and demands sources are cited and questions are actually answered! That views the opposition as not an enemy but a counterpoint.That people that boo and jeer are thrown out because it is not a pantomime. Same for if they sleep, show up drunk or coked out their mind, they get a warning and then fired. (This is what happens in every other job I can think of! not politics though just apologise and it is all fine.) A party that pushes to get rid of ridiculous biases that skew results regardless of what side you are on. Gerrymandering, and first past the post need to go, there are more sensible systems out there. As does lobbying with financial incentive. Until all that happens it does not matter what your political leaning is. As your vote has little mathematical merit and the structures in place cause you to gain the opposite of what you voted for, even if your elected party won. Till then it all feels like pointless bread and circuses and the illusion of meaningful choice for us plebs.

I honestly believe such a party is unlikely to form in the US, much of Europe, and/or most of Asia. The African continent is repressed by neo-colonial powers, the newest being China. All that's left is Latin America but the 3 most prominent countries: Brazil, Cuba, and Venezuela are either entangled with US sanctions, embargos, CIA shenanigans, or have a fascist in office that essentially wants to commit collective suicide.

US hegemony (I prefer empire) has to collapse before an opportunity for rationality to enter politics can be dreamed of. Even then there's a relatively small window of opportunity for a global progressive shift before an imminent decline in human activity.

"Empire of Illusion; The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle"

 

[Corraled]

I like countries that dont ethnic cleanse me.

 

[Relief]

I lean towards the conservative party. I find the arguments better structured, rational and supported. I'm not a fan of Trump's rhetoric, however, I can value what he has done for the economy and the African American community. Poverty has gone down, pockets are fuller and people are no longer afraid to ask questions that should be asked. On the other hand, I do support a woman's right to choose abortion and I support most movements within the LGBT community.
My only "concern" regarding the left is how emotion-driven there stand seems to be.

 

[CursedForDisaster]

I lean further left but I'm understanding to both sides

 

[snowball]

I am a committed Communist, but only on Mondays.

 

[epic]

I am a committed Communist, but only on Mondays.

Hahahahahaha

 

[Bathsheba]

I tend to vote Green.. but the radical environmentalists are putting me off a bit.

 

[Dartz]

1. Free speech/expression and personal freedom is essential
2. Career politicians are usually cunts
3. The less you care about politics, the happier you will be

 

[snowball]

3. The less you care about politics, the happier you will be

And the politicians are happier too, so it's a win win situation

 

[Dartz]

And the politicians are happier too, so it's a win win situation

True, but at this point this shit they get away with even with massive public outcry is ridiculous so whatever. Fuck em all, and fuckin no regrets,

 

[Wreck-it-Riley]

Canadian politics is crappy too, but we all voted today. Pretty much everyone i know went ABC (anyone but conservatives) and NDP just happened to be top of the ballot. We will probably get a conservative government though, its just how Canada works. Try the new thing, OH NO CHANGE, go back to the tried and true.

 

[Moon Flower]

I'm pretty far left