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Hi everyone,

I'm just trying to get everything right and I have a couple of questions. When I've consumed my SN and someone finds me, I understand that the police will probably investigate my death since I'm young. But would they kinda drop the investigation if I leave a note explaining what I took and that my death is a suicide? And if not, would they take my phone and laptop, even if it's password protected, to do further investigations? I want my laptop and my phone to be handed to a chosen family member as soon as I'm found, not to be collected as evidence, and only they, my best friend and ex, will know the passcodes.
 
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I guess it depends on what country you live in and the situation, if you are from US they will perhaps investigate it as the FBI, CSI and all that LE get too bored lol but if you live in Latin America, Asia or EU its unlikely.
 
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If the police want to investigate this they can, I.T. expoerts know how to get into computers and phones even if they don't know thw passcodes, this is easy for them. But the question is whether they will investigate it further once they have clear evidence that it is a suicide- sn makes your skin turn blue, it will be pretty obvious what happened. But I suppose that someone could force someone else to take sn, however unlikely, so they may need to look at your computer and phone to be sure it's is not a murder. It depends on what their time pressure is like for other cases I would think- if they're not that busy they'll put a lot more time into this. And it depends on what their legal requirements are for being sure it is not a murder. I wish you peace in your decision, but we can't do much to control things once we are gone.
 
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If the police want to investigate this they can, I.T. expoerts know how to get into computers and phones even if they don't know thw passcodes, this is easy for them. But the question is whether they will investigate it further once they have clear evidence that it is a suicide- sn makes your skin turn blue, it will be pretty obvious what happened. But I suppose that someone could force someone else to take sn, however unlikely, so they may need to look at your computer and phone to be sure it's is not a murder. It depends on what their time pressure is like for other cases I would think- if they're not that busy they'll put a lot more time into this. And it depends on what their legal requirements are for being sure it is not a murder. I wish you peace in your decision, but we can't do much to control things once we are gone.
Yeah, I guess. But would my phone and laptop eventually be given back to my family if the investigation ends?
 
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Yeah, I guess. But would my phone and laptop eventually be given back to my family if the investigation ends?
I was on social media and this girl posted a video about going though her sister's phone after she got it back from the police after she died/can't remember if it was as suicide or not. But she was just looking at her selfies and remembering her for memories so I think they should. You could also put in your suicide note what you wish to happen to your belongings
 
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Yeah, I guess. But would my phone and laptop eventually be given back to my family if the investigation ends?
I would think so, I don't see why not. They may not investiaget the phone and computer if they see other evidence that it is suicide, or they might, but you won't be able to control if they do.
 
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I was on social media and this girl posted a video about going though her sister's phone after she got it back from the police after she died/can't remember if it was as suicide or not. But she was just looking at her selfies and remembering her for memories so I think they should. You could also put in your suicide note what you wish to happen to your belongings
Yeah, I'll have 2 copies of my will. 1 will be right next to my body. It's pretty short and concise.
 
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Obliviate

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Yeah, I'll have 2 copies of my will. 1 will be right next to my body. It's pretty short and concise.
You have an actual legal will? There's a difference between a will and a suicide note unfortunately
 
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You have an actual legal will? There's a difference between a will and a suicide note unfortunately
Yes, I have a will, a suicide note and a funeral wish note as well along with some good bye letters.
 
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Yes, I have a will, a suicide note and a funeral wish note as well along with some good bye letters.
Oh wow how did you manage to pull that off without being suspicious since you're young? I wish I could get a legal will but then my family is gonna for sure find out about my plans.
 
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Oh wow how did you manage to pull that off without being suspicious since you're young? I wish I could get a legal will but then my family is gonna for sure find out about my plans.
Nobody cares, I asked my doctor if I should make a will after telling her for an entire year and for 10 mins prior that I'm extremely suicidal and she said that's up to you. Lawyers don't really care either.
 
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Nobody cares, I asked my doctor if I should make a will after telling her for an entire year and for 10 mins prior that I'm extremely suicidal and she said that's up to you. Lawyers don't really care either.
Wow and she didn't report/force you to a psych ward?!?! Interesting.
 
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Wow and she didn't report/force you to a psych ward?!?! Interesting.
No, she's never suggested it once. My therapist refuse to do so as well because the only time I went to one around 6 months ago after having begged another doctor to submit me for 3 days, I just wanted to hang myself there and I had plenty of options to do so. The personnel was horrible and useless and all they did was push me towards suicide even more so I checked myself out after 16 hours, thus my therapist don't want me to go back to any hospitals.
 
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A lovely person posted this with regards to a UK case:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/some-info-about-what-happens-after-you-ctb.104169/
 
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A lovely person posted this with regards to a UK case:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/some-info-about-what-happens-after-you-ctb.104169/
Thank you so much, I spent an hour trying to use the search function to find anything similar.
 
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Thank you so much, I spent an hour trying to use the search function to find anything similar.
No worries. I think the OP was really kind sharing their story. I guess a lot depends on the circumstances they find you in and how that particular police force operates.

I have heard awful stories of notes not being passed on or even shown to relatives. Think I'll go the delayed email route to avoid this possibility.

Really though- I imagine- if everything is laid out- hand written note to police to say it was a self inflicted act, plus ID, plus will and any other notes to your solicitor- I can't see any reason as to why they would want to withold things. I expect they do an autopsy as a matter of course and maybe a search of phones and computers but you'd hope these would be returned really.
 
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I was on social media and this girl posted a video about going though her sister's phone after she got it back from the police after she died/can't remember if it was as suicide or not. But she was just looking at her selfies and remembering her for memories so I think they should. You could also put in your suicide note what you wish to happen to your belongings
Do you know how long it would take for the police to give back notes/evidence?
 
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Do you know how long it would take for the police to give back notes/evidence?
Not sure, it really depends how long they wanna drag along the investigation. The more clear of a suicide it is the better it seems. I'm assuming they might do an autopsy as well?
 
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No worries. I think the OP was really kind sharing their story. I guess a lot depends on the circumstances they find you in and how that particular police force operates.

I have heard awful stories of notes not being passed on or even shown to relatives. Think I'll go the delayed email route to avoid this possibility.

Really though- I imagine- if everything is laid out- hand written note to police to say it was a self inflicted act, plus ID, plus will and any other notes to your solicitor- I can't see any reason as to why they would want to withold things. I expect they do an autopsy as a matter of course and maybe a search of phones and computers but you'd hope these would be returned really.
Not sure, it really depends how long they wanna drag along the investigation. The more clear of a suicide it is the better it seems. I'm assuming they might do an autopsy as well?
Does anyone know if they'd investigate your apartment or personal items in there when you are CTB'ing in a hotel? Or would they limit the investigation to the items present in the hotel and the hotel room itself?
 
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It breaks my heart that you are surrounded by people who should care but don't. I hope that whether you go ctb or not, your heart is filled with peace. About the investigation, I really think it depends on your country. If the doctors treat you that way, I wouldn't be surprised if the police are not thorough either. Peace :)
 
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It breaks my heart that you are surrounded by people who should care but don't. I hope that whether you go ctb or not, your heart is filled with peace. About the investigation, I really think it depends on your country. If the doctors treat you that way, I wouldn't be surprised if the police are not thorough either. Peace :)
Yeah, I don't honestly have any good experience with police here either as they didn't investigate my abusers when I was a kid, they did a very lousy job. Wasn't aware of it until I became an adult and read the case and interogation files myself with a therapist. Not sure how it is with suicides and unexpected deaths though. Thank you for your kind words and for the wishes, I wish the same for you.
 
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LastFlowers

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Apr 27, 2019
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Hi everyone,

I'm just trying to get everything right and I have a couple of questions. When I've consumed my SN and someone finds me, I understand that the police will probably investigate my death since I'm young. But would they kinda drop the investigation if I leave a note explaining what I took and that my death is a suicide? And if not, would they take my phone and laptop, even if it's password protected, to do further investigations? I want my laptop and my phone to be handed to a chosen family member as soon as I'm found, not to be collected as evidence, and only they, my best friend and ex, will know the passcodes.
I've wondered about this too.
Worried severely actually.
To some degree I know what may happen as I knew someone outside of this site who commited suicide and their loved one told me quite a bit about the aftermath.
But it's been so long, I can hardly remember everything.
Was a typical method though, not mine.
And probably aroused less suspicion, also did not have the unfortunate "trend" aspect attached to it that might also draw unwanted attention.

I have to eliminate the possibility of the cops going through my digital devices and belongings.
Even once I attempt to wipe them or remove all local data and digital bread crumb trails,
I plan to pack everything up and store it outside of my room.
I mean, what are they going to do? Dig through the whole home when it's a clear suicide?
I hope not.
The scars on my arm might actually do me a favor too. As they are sure to take that as a sign of previous suicidal desire.
I wanted to avoid a note but I will have to write one to at least assert that I committed the act of my own volition and obtained/ingested the substance by choice, knowing full well the consequences.
Also after death requests.
I will have to make doubles of these because I know cops can take letters or similar for over a year.
And the replicas will have to be sent through email to someone I trust.
(Cops won't leave physical replicas behind, that much I know.)

I've been saving up to get a decoy phone too, so that they don't get suspicious when there's no electronic devices within my vicinity.
Also so my absolute asshole of a relative (who will be eager to absolve themselves and create their own narrative, blow up my privacy) doesn't go and TELL them to look through my shit or say something like "Did you find her phone?"
God I absolutely loathe them.
I wish I lived alone.

Most of this is if I'm unable to get a hotel room.

I'm wondering something else though..will cops ask for the person's cell number and look at records without needing the physical device?
Do they really go this far for suicides?

Imagine if we were allowed to die in peace, with a government sanctioned option…wouldn't have to worry about all of this fucking shit.

I still don't know how you managed to make a legally binding will without interference.
Unless you don't share my general location or continent.
Does anyone know if they'd investigate your apartment or personal items in there when you are CTB'ing in a hotel? Or would they limit the investigation to the items present in the hotel and the hotel room itself?
Also a question of mine.
 
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Obliviate

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Does anyone know if they'd investigate your apartment or personal items in there when you are CTB'ing in a hotel? Or would they limit the investigation to the items present in the hotel and the hotel room itself?

I have to eliminate the possibility of the cops going through my digital devices and belongings.
Even once I attempt to wipe them or remove all local data and digital bread crumb trails,
No idea but incase I would sort everything out, not perfectly clean or whatever but just simple. I've already started cleaning my personal stuff and going through all my social media, pictures, entire phone. I personally won't be wiping anything completely out because unless investigators are creeps and wanna go through all my selfies/body pics(nothing nude) I won't be surprised if they would cuz bunch of them are pedos/evil. Also my fear is my body being raped like necrophilia because again people mostly males are disgusting creeps and rapists and oh better believe it does happen. but I have a mix of saved suicidal posts and videos about fucked up things happening in the world and ALOT of pics of my cats and my science stuff from college, health issues, documents . It's like a mix of everything about my life and I don't really care too much for anyone to see it. I don't have a single human I give a fuck about who I would want for them to have my pics as "memories" but I'm assuming my fake ass family would wanna keep them to remember me for when they "grieve" *rolls eyes*
 
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Not sure, it really depends how long they wanna drag along the investigation. The more clear of a suicide it is the better it seems. I'm assuming they might do an autopsy as well?
do you think if you died from sn it would take less long
 
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do you think if you died from sn it would take less long
I think it would take longer because it isn't visible what you ingested unless you leave out the rest of your SN and clearly state I took it from SN and all that. As opposed to the exit bag method, you can visually see that it was more likely a suicide. I was reading the FINAL EXIT and it said to sign your suicide note like your actual signature to make it more official and try to write it out instead of typed whcih is more difficult to do if you have a lot to say and you need multiple copies
 
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No idea but incase I would sort everything out, not perfectly clean or whatever but just simple. I've already started cleaning my personal stuff and going through all my social media, pictures, entire phone. I personally won't be wiping anything completely out because unless investigators are creeps and wanna go through all my selfies/body pics(nothing nude) I won't be surprised if they would cuz bunch of them are pedos/evil. Also my fear is my body being raped like necrophilia because again people mostly males are disgusting creeps and rapists and oh better believe it does happen. but I have a mix of saved suicidal posts and videos about fucked up things happening in the world and ALOT of pics of my cats and my science stuff from college, health issues, documents . It's like a mix of everything about my life and I don't really care too much for anyone to see it. I don't have a single human I give a fuck about who I would want for them to have my pics as "memories" but I'm assuming my fake ass family would wanna keep them to remember me for when they "grieve" *rolls eyes*
In my case, I'm pretty sure investigators would be too put off by my general appearance to believe I even had any pictures that would do much more than add utter humiliation to my memory..but people are nosy and tend to get off on the unfortunate and those they deem "cringe worthy"..it's a sick and cruel fetish of the human spirit.

Still, I also fear my body being handled too much in any way or documented (someone said they take pictures of the corpse and then it's in records permanently!!)…Jesus Christ I don't want that to happen…all the efforts I've taken to hide away and save my last piece of dignity..for nothing?!?!
Fucking hell on earth. I better have time to rot passed the point of recognition.
Just remembered that all cops have body cams now too..

Does anyone know who usually gets to the body first in the case of an apparent suicide?
Is it taken away before police become involved?
Looking more and more like I'll have to get to a hotel that is nowhere near where I live…I don't need anyone in my fucking business.
I think it would take longer because it isn't visible what you ingested unless you leave out the rest of your SN and clearly state I took it from SN and all that. As opposed to the exit bag method, you can visually see that it was more likely a suicide. I was reading the FINAL EXIT and it said to sign your suicide note like your actual signature to make it more official and try to write it out instead of typed whcih is more difficult to do if you have a lot to say and you need multiple copies
I have so much to say but it's not worth being misinterpreted imo, so I'll have to keep things short.
Good info about the signature though..maybe I will add that to the end of my written list of requests and statement of having made the decision to end my life on my own.
 
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Obliviate

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In my case, I'm pretty sure investigators would be too put off by my general appearance to believe I even had any pictures that would do much more than add utter humiliation to my memory..but people are nosy and tend to get off on the unfortunate and those they deem "cringe worthy"..it's a sick and cruel fetish of the human spirit.

Still, I also fear my body being handled too much in any way or documented (someone said they take pictures of the corpse and then it's in records permanently!!)…Jesus Christ I don't want that to happen…all the efforts I've taken to hide away and save my last piece of dignity..for nothing?!?!
Fucking hell on earth. I better have time to rot passed the point of recognition.
Just remembered that all cops have body cams now too..

Does anyone know who usually gets to the body first in the case of an apparent suicide?
Is it taken away before police become involved?
Looking more and more like I'll have to get to a hotel that is nowhere near where I live…I don't need anyone in my fucking business.

I have so much to say but it's not worth being misinterpreted imo, so I'll have to keep things short.
Good info about the signature though..maybe I will add that to the end of my written list of requests and statement of having made the decision to end my life on my own.
Yeah it's like our physical bodies may never get the peace and respect it deserves. Very Sad. They could probably find out where you live and go through your things if needed.

It's like I don't want to donate my body to science either because there are a lot of evil fucks out there too int he science world that could do dehumanizing things to your body. Maybe the best bet would be cremation but it's expensive, less than a funeral but still ugh I need to save as much money as possible
 
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LastFlowers

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Yeah it's like our physical bodies may never get the peace and respect it deserves. Very Sad. They could probably find out where you live and go through your things if needed.

It's like I don't want to donate my body to science either because there are a lot of evil fucks out there too int he science world that could do dehumanizing things to your body. Maybe the best bet would be cremation but it's expensive, less than a funeral but still ugh I need to save as much money as possible
Yea it is so disturbing and unfortunate that we must worry about these things when all we want to do is end our suffering.
Dying naturally or of old age does not usually permit this type of disrespectful exploration and dissection of the body or circumstances.
It's horribly unfair.

Cremation is what I'm requesting (demanding), asap from time of discovery (not sure how realistic that would be).
No funeral, no wake, no announcement, just the absolute bare minimum so I can keep any remaining privacy intact.
 
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