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Ardis

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Apr 21, 2026
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If you have pentobarbital from 'D' that dates back to 2012, it is not from D (Domingo), who came after Alejandro Vasquez, but from D (Dorian Galeazzi), who supplied pentobarbital before Alejandro Vasquez. Alejandro Vasquez was the successor to Dorian Galeazzi.

The Dutch foundation De Einder that provides information on methods and means to end one's life maintained contact with them to ensure the drugs were reliable: with 'Johnson' in China – until he was shut down; with 'Dorian Galeazzi' in Mexico, and his successor Alejandro Vasquez, who is now also in prison.

I remember that Philip Nitschke talked a few years ago about pentobarbital from Dorian Galeazzi. He said that it is probably still fine, but that testing would be useful.



A member of Exit International recently mentioned that the problems at Energy Control have been resolved, while Energy Control indeed still mentions on their site that they are having a technical issue.

When I log into Energy Control, pentobarbital is listed as a substance to be analyzed.

Perhaps it is best to first send an email to Energy Control to ask whether the issues have indeed been resolved or if they are still experiencing problems.
Thank you very much, very helpful. Yes, my N was ordered from Dorian sometime around 2012. I have 2 bottles, 200ml each. I am assuming it is still good, but I am going to contact the laboratory. May take a while to get a reply as I have other questions to ask them. As soon as I here more, will add to this post.
 
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Thank you very much, very helpful. Yes, my N was ordered from Dorian sometime around 2012. I have 2 bottles, 200ml each. I am assuming it is still good, but I am going to contact the laboratory. May take a while to get a reply as I have other questions to ask them. As soon as I here more, will add to this post.
have you sent it yet? I personally sent the veterinary N I bought in peru in may. Still awaiting results. if your N is still potent it would be very good news for me because it would mean it lasts a long while.
 
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have you sent it yet? I personally sent the veterinary N I bought in peru in may. Still awaiting results. if your N is still potent it would be very good news for me because it would mean it lasts a long while.
won't they like have to report you?
 
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watereyes

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Mar 27, 2020
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won't they like have to report you?
no, its a lab in spain that specializes in testing drugs for end users. they do coke, fent, whatever... they dont have a legal obligation to report users, it would kinda defeat the purpose. they dont have my name or address anyway. its also a different country with different laws.
 
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Ardis

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Apr 21, 2026
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no, its a lab in spain that specializes in testing drugs for end users. they do coke, fent, whatever... they dont have a legal obligation to report users, it would kinda defeat the purpose. they dont have my name or address anyway. its also a different country with different laws.
I contacted the lab called Energy Control. They told me that they are no longer testing barbitutes even though they list it on their website. That was as of today. Do you know of any other labs that might test? I assume you no longer have a reliable source for the N?
 
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Lastact

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Jan 9, 2026
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vets are taking it to put to sleep animals, so I think it is a reliable method..
 

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