Help Partial vs full suspension hanging

[Punished snake]

Try 'typical' position, when the knot is behind your neck it works fine. You must really hang from the rope to press the front of your neck upwards. Don't need too much strength. This is the V shape. As they told before you will know when you make it right. Completely different feeling than closing the veins only. I feel instant cold fear in my chest and dizzyness.

Where did you put the noose? Base of the neck or under the chin?

 

[Punished snake]

So, I'm planning to do a partial suspension next Thursday. Bought the rope today, learned to make a noose from a YT video.

Tried the method quickly, to get acquainted. However, I apparently fell into that failure mode where my face became all red, I felt the pressure building up, and a lot of pain. Unconsciousness didn't seem anywhere near. I couldn't stand it for long.

Is this a knot positioning issue? I need to watch more videos....

My issue too

 

[Suicideisnirvana]

Yes. It is not exactly rocket science. As long as you have a rope or something that can hold your weight and a sturdy doorknob, of course. The hardest thing is fighting the survival instinct.

Do you think the corner of a billard table can work as an anchor ?

 

[111aaa]

Where did you put the noose? Base of the neck or under the chin?

Under the chin above adam's apple. And the pressure goes straight upwards as much as possible. I'm still practising every day but I can't fight the panic I feel after 2-3 seconds. Surely hanging is not for me but there is no other effective method I can choose in my situation. I think it will happen 'accidentally' once when I will be too weak to back out.

 

[Punished snake]

I tried hanging today using my door, it went sort of well. I used a padding to avoid having neck bruises and found out that the main cause of failure is the lack of pressure and badly tied knots. I'll basically "sit in the air" when I'll do it officially

 

[Ashtar]

I tried hanging today using my door, it went sort of well. I used a padding to avoid having neck bruises and found out that the main cause of failure is the lack of pressure and badly tied knots. I'll basically "sit in the air" when I'll do it officially

Yes, I always put a cloth among the rope and my neck, it don't hurt your neck and have no marks. I take the tip from Lyle Stevik. I tried last night. Practice leads to perfection!

 

[Jblack]

I have looked at both partial and full suspension as my exit method. From what I have read and the few videos that are available, I have concluded that for the method to be really effective and quick depends a lot on the placement of the knot. With the right position, I would pass out fairly quickly and not feel much discomfort. Please let me know if I am understanding the method correctly.

 

[Miss clefable]

I tried under the Adam's apple and within 2 seconds I was out

 

[Jblack]

I tried under the Adam's apple and within 2 seconds I was out

Did you experience any discomfort? That is my biggest concern, also having the ability to overcome survival instinct.

 

[Miss clefable]

Did you experience any discomfort? That is my biggest concern, also having the ability to overcome survival instinct.

No

 

[Nem]

I would think you'd experience some discomfort...at least a little

 

[Punished snake]

I would think you'd experience some discomfort...at least a little

It varies from person to person and you also have to get the right spot

 

[dman12009]

It varies from person to person and you also have to get the right spot

It really depends on the person. If I crouched to hang myself I couldn't take it if I leaned forward I was able to stand long enough to pass out. But some people have said that it was just too painful

 

[Ashtar]

I tried under the Adam's apple and within 2 seconds I was out

What position and where the knot should be? And where u tied the rope? It comes from up, down or any side?

 

[Miss clefable]

What position and where the knot should be? And where u tied the rope? It comes from up, down or any side?

Semi reclined tied from the front

 

[Ashtar]

Semi reclined tied from the front

Reclined to back?

 

[Punished snake]

Semi reclined tied from the front

So it wasn't "classical"

 

[Miss clefable]

So it wasn't "classical"

Classical

 

[Punished snake]

Classical

Sorry, let me rephrase. I meant to say "the knotbwasn't like usual, at the back. But in this way didn't the pressure build more on the back of the neck?

 

[Miss clefable]

Sorry, let me rephrase. I meant to say "the knotbwasn't like usual, at the back. But in this way didn't the pressure build more on the back of the neck?

No at the sides

 

[Punished snake]

I'll have to give it a try, considering I'll have to sit in the air too and putting the knot at the back kind of doesn't work if you wanna do it that way

 

[Punished snake]

How was it that you woke up?

 

[Miss clefable]

How was it that you woke up?

Lost grip

 

[Punished snake]

Lost grip

You mean the rope fell off the place where it was tied?

 

[Schopenhauer]

While I was perusing PubMed, doing research for another user, I found this rather ghoulish paper:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379073817302748?via=ihub

From the abstract:

Decapitation following suicidal hanging is rarely encountered in forensic practice. The authors report a case of suicidal hanging resulting in decapitation following a fall of 5m. This case is compared with 30 cases found in the literature. Several factors including type of rope, skin abrasion, level of the severed vertebrae, thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone injuries and vital signs are studied. The force applied to the neck and the kinetic energy were calculated. The kinetic energy (ranging from 1820 to 7310J) takes into account the weight of the victim but also the length of the rope (height of the fall). The speed of the body as it is stopped by the rope ranged between 6.49 and 14.01ms-1.


Apparently 30 (!!) people have managed to decapitate themselves using drop hanging.

 

[NoHope]

Apparently 30 (!!) people have managed to decapitate themselves using drop hanging.

I think they are lucky, that would be an instant death, and most likely no pain.

 

[IG959]

I think they are lucky, that would be an instant death, and most likely no pain.

I don't know why the idea of it doesn't appeal to me

 

[cappuccinogirl]

Hi does anyone know of a simple guide to partial hanging. Tried googling and got confused, and don't feel well enough to spend hours at it. Thought it would be simple. Thanks

 

[DoneWithThis]

Great videos by the way. And thanks for posting them.

I've been messing around with my carotid arteries for over a week now. Actually I ended up join the forum a couple of days ago since well, I couldn't manage to kill myself with the partial suspension way. I might not be envious of many things but being honest, I'm jealous of the people that can put proper pressure on their carotid arteries so easily and pass out so easily.

Probably a strange thing to be jealous of but considering our current situation not shocking.

The closest I got to passing out was one of the times I was choking myself, and I got that blurry vision, weird hearing, losing consciousness feeling. Only one time. But that's enough to give me hope.

But apparently the partial suspension hanging stuff isn't working for me. Unfortunately, it looks like I'm going to have to go with a full suspension. On the plus side, theirs no way out. But it does seem like the more extreme version to me, especially when you have difficulty passing out.

All things considered. Even though it would be horrible to be choking with a full suspension for 30 minutes without passing out. Even though, those 30 minutes might seem like a lifetime, at least it's done with, it's over.

I'll just share some of my experience. And obviously most of you already know this but for the ones who don't. I always use the slip knot for the part that goes around my neck.

Paracord/Shoelaces/Thin diameter rope. Cuts more into the neck, makes it unnecessarily painful. Even with padding around the neck such as t-shirt material or hand towel, it cuts in too much at a specific point. If you can precisely get your carotid arteries, I'm sure it's not that much of a big deal since you'll be passing out. But if you can't seem to get them, pretty painful.

Necktie/1 inch nylon webbing strap. Already way better than the paracord/shoelace. But since a necktie isn't that long, standard being 57 inches, you probably have to attach the tie to a rope or something similar.

1 inch padded rope seems to be the best thing I've found so far. And the scarf works pretty good. I'm sure that the rope is a better choice than the scarf. Since it seems like a the scarf has a wider area, and put letss pressure on a specific spot. Opposed to the padded rope which the pressure can be placed on a more specific spot, ideally your carotid arteries.

I've noticed that lubricating the rope with soap/Vaseline/oil makes it easier for the rope to cinch down. But it's not that important. But It's a minor thing.

I think it's probably more important how much you tighten the knot, in my case, the slip knot, itself, when making it. If you extremely tighten it, it's more difficult for the rope to cinch down on your neck. If you leave the knot a bit more lose it tightens up faster. Just my experience.

I think a couple of drinks before trial error does help a bit. In the sense that you're more relaxed, and that your neck muscles don't cramp up right away, to protect itself I imagine.

but these are just some ramblings on my part.

It looks like full suspension is going to have to be the way. And even though it's scary, seems like a great moment of courage as well.

Good luck people.
Since partial suspension isn't working more than likely and unfortunately I'm going to have to go with full suspension. Even though it's really scary. Way more scary than partial suspension hanging. I suppose I'll have to stop being such a pussy, deal with the choking bullshit even if I don't get the carotid arteries, and enf things in one last swift courageous act.

That's the rafter in the garage I'm going to use. I can do pull-ups from it which means I'm good with the weight part. And I'm pretty sure that slip knot looks good. What do you guys think?

 

[Theman]

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