Overdose questions

[LonelyMe]

So I've noticed that buying SN has gotten really hard so I'm forced to reconsider older methods. I know that this has probably been talked about before but I'm desperate for an easy way out.

Caffeine and salt (sodium chloride) are two popular methods but there are many failed attempts because both cause strong emesis. I've read about two failed caffeine overdose attempts on this site. Why do some die and others survive? Can I tape my mouth shut if I were to overdose on either? I know salt overdosing hurts like crazy when the brain swells inside the skull but I can tolerate some pain.


Example of caffeine overdose cases :

Colwyn Bay man died after 200-coffee caffeine overdose

Personal trainer Tom Mansfield died after miscalculating the amount of caffeine powder in drink.

www.bbc.com

South Carolina teen dies from caffeine OD after drinking coffee, soda and energy drink

A 16-year-old boy died from a caffeine overdose after drinking caffeine-laden soft drinks, coffee and an energy drink, a coroner ruled Monday.

www.nbcnews.com

Two Fatal Cases of Caffeine Poisoning

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www.jstage.jst.go.jp

I noticed that the two men in the last article used motion sickness anti-emetics. Do they really help with caffeine? I know they don't help with an SN overdose. I got some Quetiapine but not enough to eat a high dose regularly for a month which is recommended for SN but what about caffeine or salt? Is taking a one-time high dose of Quetiapine gonna help with overdosing on either of these?


Example of salt overdose cases(seems to be very lethal even when treated at the hospital) :

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01411.x

 

[DrJ3llyf1sh]

Overdosing tends to be pretty hard unless you have access to really strong drugs. It'll take a shit ton and you'll die slowly and painfully as your bodily organs shut down one by one. There's KN, which is more accessible and cheaper than SN (my preferred method). But if you want any specific information you can PM me. :)

 

[LonelyMe]

Overdosing tends to be pretty hard unless you have access to really strong drugs. It'll take a shit ton and you'll die slowly and painfully as your bodily organs shut down one by one. There's KN, which is more accessible and cheaper than SN (my preferred method). But if you want any specific information you can PM me. :)

Does KN stand for Potassium Nitrate?

 

[moonflow3r]

those methods seem very unreliable

 

[DrJ3llyf1sh]

Does KN stand for Potassium Nitrate?

Yep!

 

[Intoxicated]

Does KN stand for Potassium Nitrate?

If your goal is to make black powder and blow yourself up with it, then you could buy nitrate. The ingestible poison is nitrite.

 

[LonelyMe]

If your goal is to make black powder and blow yourself up with it, then you could buy nitrate. The ingestible poison is nitrite.

I know but the nitrite version is really hard to get hold of and the nitrate can also cause methemoglobinemia :

Rapid-onset methemoglobinemia from traditional-medicine-induced potassium nitrate poisoning: successful treatment with methylene blue—a case report - Journal of Medical Case Reports

Background Potassium nitrate poisoning is a rare but potentially serious condition that can result in methemoglobinemia and subsequent cyanosis. This case report presents a unique instance of rapid-onset methemoglobinemia resulting from the ingestion of a traditional medicine preparation...

jmedicalcasereports.biomedcentral.com

 

[Intoxicated]

I know but the nitrite version is really hard to get hold of and the nitrate can also cause methemoglobinemia :

Nitrate's efficiency at producing methemoglobinemia is much lower.

 

[LonelyMe]

Nitrate's efficiency at producing methemoglobinemia is much lower.

Yup. You're right : https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4039755/

"Nitrate itself seems relatively non-toxic, but approximately 5% of all ingested nitrate is rapidly reduced to the more toxic component, nitrite, by bacteria in saliva and the gastrointestinal tract."

Looks like I need to find another way then.

 

[DrJ3llyf1sh]

Yup. You're right : https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4039755/

"Nitrate itself seems relatively non-toxic, but approximately 5% of all ingested nitrate is rapidly reduced to the more toxic component, nitrite, by bacteria in saliva and the gastrointestinal tract."

Looks like I need to find another way then.

KN can be found on amazon, though i'd recommend buying nitrite testing strips to be sure it has nitrite.