Help Opinions on SN

[Jessi76]

Even the most peaceful death has you making death rattles and horrifying sounds that anybody you live with is gonna hear, that's how a ton of people survive. I'm going to pre-mix mine five minutes before I leave into the wilderness. Nobody's finding me for at least 12 hours when my SN gets here.

How long do you think these noises would last? Could you also hide it with loud music (set to 2 hours with a timer) so that you don't get caught by neighbors?

 

[walkingdead2023]

Ok but we don't have information on those to conclude if they even followed the regimen correctly, also feces after death happens sometimes as the body's muscles relax. So Vomiting feces, if that is what you meant, makes absolutely no sense and blue or gunmetal Grey is cyanosis, fairly normal unless you care about what you'll like after your dead. Also, for those that took hours to die, those are such an exception to the rule and nor established as what will typically happen when you take sn. I think you've made the mistake of using those exceptions as the consensus as to what will happen with this method.

I mean, what the heck else did you expect, that they'd look all pretty holding a bouquet of flowers after falling asleep into oblivion? Very few people look good after death anyway.

Whatever! I'm just not comfortable with this method. I work in a hospital I never seen anyone vomiting feces from their mouth! I've seen dead people but they look normal not dark dark blue with red vein and open mouth with nasty stuff in it. Everyone is different what might be peaceful to you be scary to me so thank you for the flower

 

[DreamEnd]

Whatever! I'm just not comfortable with this method. I work in a hospital I never seen anyone vomiting feces from their mouth! I've seen dead people but they look normal not dark dark blue with red vein and open mouth with nasty stuff in it. Everyone is different what might be peaceful to you be scary to me so thank you for the flower

Where have you seen/heard? Anyone taking sn and vomiting feces? I'm legitimately curious because I have never heard of it

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Whatever! I'm just not comfortable with this method. I work in a hospital I never seen anyone vomiting feces from their mouth! I've seen dead people but they look normal not dark dark blue with red vein and open mouth with nasty stuff in it. Everyone is different what might be peaceful to you be scary to me so thank you for the flower

So what you're saying is that you've heard about people vomiting feces from this method specifically which still, I've never ever seen that reported on here, even in the worst case scenarios that's been discussed, also I don't know about an open mouth but that could just be how they were positioned prior to or after death. None of this makes sense to me at all, because despite your medical credentials, Vomiting is not typically listed as a common symptom of methemoglobinemia. The most common symptoms are related to oxygen deprivation in the body due to the inability of methemoglobin to carry oxygen efficiently. None of this correlates to your claim that has anything to do with vomiting feces which is very specific, even in many of the cases I've read from medical literature, none ever detailed anything that remarkable because it would be very uncommon.

Also, how could their veins be red when their blood has oxidized become brown/black due to Methemoglobinemia?

Finally, I've never outright stated this method to be outright peaceful, after gathering and reading many of the failed experiences, I've cautiously gauged all reasonable expectations of what this method could do so while it may not be drifting off to sleep, it's not on the extreme spectrum of being too unmanageable.

Also, I don't know what flower you're talking about.

 

[notforl0ng]

How long do you think these noises would last? Could you also hide it with loud music (set to 2 hours with a timer) so that you don't get caught by neighbors?

I'd say once you're dying and on the way out you can expect them to last no longer than 45 minutes but science says death rattles (laboured breathing and groaning) can last up to a few hours. That's the window I'd want to have if I were doing this in my own house with family/roommates living there. People say SN will have you dead within 40 minutes but I don't believe it happens that fast. I think you're probably just unconscious around that point and still have a lot of time to be discovered and saved. I saw a failure story where the girl actually slumped over and landed on her TV remote that blasted the stereo at such a loud volume that the neighbours called in a noise complaint and that's how she got found.

That timer idea is actually a great idea though. The thing about dying of poisoning/overdoses in general is you could be vomiting extremely loudly while you're unconscious, so as long as you're doing it at a reasonable hour and everyone in the house doesn't think loud music is something odd, you're probably fine.

 

[walkingdead2023]

Where have you seen/heard? Anyone taking sn and vomiting feces? I'm legitimately curious because I have never heard of it

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2. CASE

A 23‐year‐old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post‐traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from Walmart.com 6 hours before presentation in an attempt to end his life.

The patient reported losing consciousness after ingestion and waking up in his own vomit and feces. He felt confused and called EMS. In the emergency department (ED), the patient acknowledged nausea, vomiting, and bowel incontinence. He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity. He had used marijuana that day. He denied chest pain, shortness of breath, coingestion with other prescription drugs, over‐the‐counter drugs, street drugs, and ethanol. He had no auditory hallucinations, current suicidal ideation, or current homicidal ideation.

The patient presented to the ED appearing ill, ashen, discolored and in distress. He was afebrile, tachycardic to 108, with a respiratory rate at 22, and blood pressure in the 110s systolic. His oxygen saturations were 84% on 6 L nasal cannula. On examination, his skin was ashen gray and he had perioral cyanosis. Cranial nerves were intact, and his cardiopulmonary examination demonstrated mild tachycardia. There were no pulmonary abnormalities. He had diffuse tenderness on his abdomen without rebound, rigidity, or guarding. He had soiled himself and was actively retching.

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[Jessi76]

I'd say once you're dying and on the way out you can expect them to last no longer than 45 minutes but science says death rattles (laboured breathing and groaning) can last up to a few hours. That's the window I'd want to have if I were doing this in my own house with family/roommates living there. People say SN will have you dead within 40 minutes but I don't believe it happens that fast. I think you're probably just unconscious around that point and still have a lot of time to be discovered and saved. I saw a failure story where the girl actually slumped over and landed on her TV remote that blasted the stereo at such a loud volume that the neighbours called in a noise complaint and that's how she got found.

That timer idea is actually a great idea though. The thing about dying of poisoning/overdoses in general is you could be vomiting extremely loudly while you're unconscious, so as long as you're doing it at a reasonable hour and everyone in the house doesn't think loud music is something odd, you're probably fine.

Many thanks for the answer. So would around 1 hour of loud music during the day be enough? I actually turn my music up a little more often now so that it's not noticeable when I'm doing it for CTB. I also read the thing about the girl, which is how I came up with the idea of the timer

I was hoping to do CTB in the bathroom so I wouldn't make too much mess when I threw up...but loud music coming from the bathroom would be a bit strange and noticeable

 

[walkingdead2023]

Links to the article please or it didn't happen

lol I have issue it's telling me " error try again later" but I'll try again now

 

[DreamEnd]

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2. CASE

A 23‐year‐old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post‐traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from Walmart.com 6 hours before presentation in an attempt to end his life.

The patient reported losing consciousness after ingestion and waking up in his own vomit and feces. He felt confused and called EMS. In the emergency department (ED), the patient acknowledged nausea, vomiting, and bowel incontinence. He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity. He had used marijuana that day. He denied chest pain, shortness of breath, coingestion with other prescription drugs, over‐the‐counter drugs, street drugs, and ethanol. He had no auditory hallucinations, current suicidal ideation, or current homicidal ideation.

The patient presented to the ED appearing ill, ashen, discolored and in distress. He was afebrile, tachycardic to 108, with a respiratory rate at 22, and blood pressure in the 110s systolic. His oxygen saturations were 84% on 6 L nasal cannula. On examination, his skin was ashen gray and he had perioral cyanosis. Cranial nerves were intact, and his cardiopulmonary examination demonstrated mild tachycardia. There were no pulmonary abnormalities. He had diffuse tenderness on his abdomen without rebound, rigidity, or guarding. He had soiled himself and was actively retching.

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Dude he woke up IN FECES. He didn't actually vomit the feces lmao. He just shit himself anahhaha

 

[walkingdead2023]

Links to the article please or it didn't happen

Survival after self‐poisoning with sodium nitrite: A case report

Sodium nitrite ingestion poses a considerable public health threat. The incidence of sodium nitrite self‐poisoning in the United States has been trending upward since 2017. Our case report describes an intentional sodium nitrite ingestion with ...

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Dude he woke up IN FECES. He didn't actually vomit the feces lmao. He just shit himself anahhaha

Still it's nasty I don't want this to happen to me

 

[Jessi76]

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2. CASE

A 23‐year‐old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post‐traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from Walmart.com 6 hours before presentation in an attempt to end his life.

The patient reported losing consciousness after ingestion and waking up in his own vomit and feces. He felt confused and called EMS. In the emergency department (ED), the patient acknowledged nausea, vomiting, and bowel incontinence. He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity. He had used marijuana that day. He denied chest pain, shortness of breath, coingestion with other prescription drugs, over‐the‐counter drugs, street drugs, and ethanol. He had no auditory hallucinations, current suicidal ideation, or current homicidal ideation.

The patient presented to the ED appearing ill, ashen, discolored and in distress. He was afebrile, tachycardic to 108, with a respiratory rate at 22, and blood pressure in the 110s systolic. His oxygen saturations were 84% on 6 L nasal cannula. On examination, his skin was ashen gray and he had perioral cyanosis. Cranial nerves were intact, and his cardiopulmonary examination demonstrated mild tachycardia. There were no pulmonary abnormalities. He had diffuse tenderness on his abdomen without rebound, rigidity, or guarding. He had soiled himself and was actively retching.

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I suspect that what he means is that he peed his pants because his sphincter stopped working. Feces can only be vomited if the intestines are blocked

 

[walkingdead2023]

I suspect that what he means is that he peed his pants because his sphincter stopped working. Feces can only be vomited if the intestines are blocked

I don't know reading about it scared me!

 

[DreamEnd]

Survival after self‐poisoning with sodium nitrite: A case report

Sodium nitrite ingestion poses a considerable public health threat. The incidence of sodium nitrite self‐poisoning in the United States has been trending upward since 2017. Our case report describes an intentional sodium nitrite ingestion with ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Still it's nasty I don't want this to happen to me

His sn was from Walmart. I don't know how pure Walmart sn was in 2017 but I would imagine not the purity you need to ctb

 

[Deleted member 65988]

oh my goodness, that article again?

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2. CASE

A 23‐year‐old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post‐traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from Walmart.com 6 hours before presentation in an attempt to end his life.

The patient reported losing consciousness after ingestion and waking up in his own vomit and feces. He felt confused and called EMS. In the emergency department (ED), the patient acknowledged nausea, vomiting, and bowel incontinence. He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity. He had used marijuana that day. He denied chest pain, shortness of breath, coingestion with other prescription drugs, over‐the‐counter drugs, street drugs, and ethanol. He had no auditory hallucinations, current suicidal ideation, or current homicidal ideation.

The patient presented to the ED appearing ill, ashen, discolored and in distress. He was afebrile, tachycardic to 108, with a respiratory rate at 22, and blood pressure in the 110s systolic. His oxygen saturations were 84% on 6 L nasal cannula. On examination, his skin was ashen gray and he had perioral cyanosis. Cranial nerves were intact, and his cardiopulmonary examination demonstrated mild tachycardia. There were no pulmonary abnormalities. He had diffuse tenderness on his abdomen without rebound, rigidity, or guarding. He had soiled himself and was actively retching.

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I'm gonna be as clear as possible here, none of this specifically states that he vomited Feces because of SN which is what you were saying, how can you be someone whose worked in a hospital and not know this, also as I said above, this article has been shared multiple times throughout the years so this isn't the first I've seen but you do realize that vomiting feces has nothing to do with SN here, because that is what you were alluding to earlier, to vomit feces tales very specific and rare conditions and here they are as follows:

Intestinal obstruction: A blockage in the small or large intestine can cause a backup of waste material, which may be vomited up if the blockage is severe enough.

Gastrointestinal tract perforation: A hole in the stomach or intestines can allow fecal matter to leak into the abdominal cavity and potentially be vomited up.

Severe gastrointestinal infections: Certain types of bacterial or viral infections can cause inflammation and damage to the gastrointestinal tract, leading to the presence of feces in the vomit.

Bowel ischemia: A decrease in blood flow to the intestines can cause tissue death and the release of fecal matter into the stomach.

Fecal vomiting in newborns: In some cases, newborns may vomit feces if they have a congenital abnormality of the digestive system.

So, without having to waste my own time any further about your claim, here's a thread or two covering this very article down below. None of this correlates to your earlier claim that he vomited feces or anyone for that matter because of SN otherwise it would've been distinctly isolated as a phenomenon associated with this method. Also, this guy took it just days after Matthew Mindler which means he most likely didn't even know what he was doing since it was a copycat attempt. It didn't even look like he followed any specifics regarding the regimen because 8g is a very lethal amount.

Again, taking the worst case scenario and applying as the consensus of what will happen out of anxiety and fear.

A case of SN

A 23‐year‐old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post‐traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented...

sanctioned-suicide.net

He survived 8 g. of SN

This is from an NIH paper I found interesting: (23 year old male) presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from (name of store deleted ) (6 hours before...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[walkingdead2023]

oh my goodness, that article again?

oh my goodness, that article again?

I'm gonna be as clear as possible here, none of this specifically states that he vomited SN, how can you be someone whose worked in a hospital and not know this, also as I said above, this article has been shared multiple times throughout the years so this isn't the first I've seen but you do realize that vomiting feces has nothing to do with SN here, because that is what you were alluding to earlier, to vomit feces tales very specific and rare conditions and here they are as follows

Intestinal obstruction: A blockage in the small or large intestine can cause a backup of waste material, which may be vomited up if the blockage is severe enough.

Gastrointestinal tract perforation: A hole in the stomach or intestines can allow fecal matter to leak into the abdominal cavity and potentially be vomited up.

Severe gastrointestinal infections: Certain types of bacterial or viral infections can cause inflammation and damage to the gastrointestinal tract, leading to the presence of feces in the vomit.

Bowel ischemia: A decrease in blood flow to the intestines can cause tissue death and the release of fecal matter into the stomach.

Fecal vomiting in newborns: In some cases, newborns may vomit feces if they have a congenital abnormality of the digestive system.

So, without having to waste my own time any further about your claim, here's a thread or two covering this very article. None of this correlates to your earlier claim that he vomiting feces.

A case of SN

A 23‐year‐old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post‐traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented...

sanctioned-suicide.net

He survived 8 g. of SN

This is from an NIH paper I found interesting: (23 year old male) presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from (name of store deleted ) (6 hours before...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I'm not doing this duplicate posting, something is wrong with this site I don't know!!

 

[notforl0ng]

Many thanks for the answer. So would around 1 hour of loud music during the day be enough? I actually turn my music up a little more often now so that it's not noticeable when I'm doing it for CTB. I also read the thing about the girl, which is how I came up with the idea of the timer

I was hoping to do CTB in the bathroom so I wouldn't make too much mess when I threw up...but loud music coming from the bathroom would be a bit strange and noticeable

I would just be careful. If you share a living space with other people I'd say the odds of you getting heard or found before CTB are pretty high. Initially I was gonna get a motel room and sit in a warm bath while I did mine, but funds ran out and now I have to do it in the woods lol. I can't risk my roommate hearing me through my super thin wall and doing something about it.

The thing I'm still super unsure about is how long SN actually takes to be considered fatal. Like if you're unconscious for an hour and a half and get discovered, it seems like that's enough time for you to be saved. It seems to be important that you have at least a few hours of complete isolation to be successful. That's just my two cents though. The only people who actually know are the ones who've seen it happen in person or live streamed

 

[DreamEnd]

I'm not doing this duplicate posting, something is wrong with this site I don't know!!

No he just meant that this article has already been discussed on the forum. We don't know how pure his sn was and if he followed the protocol

 

[notforl0ng]

oh my goodness, that article again?


I'm gonna be as clear as possible here, none of this specifically states that he vomited Feces because of SN which is what you were saying, how can you be someone whose worked in a hospital and not know this, also as I said above, this article has been shared multiple times throughout the years so this isn't the first I've seen but you do realize that vomiting feces has nothing to do with SN here, because that is what you were alluding to earlier, to vomit feces tales very specific and rare conditions and here they are as follows:

Intestinal obstruction: A blockage in the small or large intestine can cause a backup of waste material, which may be vomited up if the blockage is severe enough.

Gastrointestinal tract perforation: A hole in the stomach or intestines can allow fecal matter to leak into the abdominal cavity and potentially be vomited up.

Severe gastrointestinal infections: Certain types of bacterial or viral infections can cause inflammation and damage to the gastrointestinal tract, leading to the presence of feces in the vomit.

Bowel ischemia: A decrease in blood flow to the intestines can cause tissue death and the release of fecal matter into the stomach.

Fecal vomiting in newborns: In some cases, newborns may vomit feces if they have a congenital abnormality of the digestive system.

So, without having to waste my own time any further about your claim, here's a thread or two covering this very article. None of this correlates to your earlier claim that he vomited feces or anyone for that matter because of SN otherwise it would've been distinctly isolated as a phenomenon associated with this method. Also, this guy took it just days after Matthew Mindler which means he most likely didn't even know what he was doing since it was a copycat attempt. It didn't even look like he followed any specifics regarding the regimen because 8g is a very lethal amount.

A case of SN

A 23‐year‐old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post‐traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented...

sanctioned-suicide.net

He survived 8 g. of SN

This is from an NIH paper I found interesting: (23 year old male) presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from (name of store deleted ) (6 hours before...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Hey, so I think her comment is a case of "let's eat, grandma!" vs "let's eat grandma!"

I think she just forgot a comma between vomiting, feces, and dark blue skin. That article also mentions bowel incontinence lol so vomiting feces is out of the question.

I think walkingdead is just trying to say that it seems like an undignified and messy death. Which it definitely would be to anyone who finds it, but that's dying in general for ya

 

[walkingdead2023]

His sn was from Walmart. I don't know how pure Walmart sn was in 2017 but I would imagine not the purity you need to ctb

Oh ok. How long it takes to die from the minute we take SN the right way?

oh my goodness, that article again?


I'm gonna be as clear as possible here, none of this specifically states that he vomited Feces because of SN which is what you were saying, how can you be someone whose worked in a hospital and not know this, also as I said above, this article has been shared multiple times throughout the years so this isn't the first I've seen but you do realize that vomiting feces has nothing to do with SN here, because that is what you were alluding to earlier, to vomit feces tales very specific and rare conditions and here they are as follows:

Intestinal obstruction: A blockage in the small or large intestine can cause a backup of waste material, which may be vomited up if the blockage is severe enough.

Gastrointestinal tract perforation: A hole in the stomach or intestines can allow fecal matter to leak into the abdominal cavity and potentially be vomited up.

Severe gastrointestinal infections: Certain types of bacterial or viral infections can cause inflammation and damage to the gastrointestinal tract, leading to the presence of feces in the vomit.

Bowel ischemia: A decrease in blood flow to the intestines can cause tissue death and the release of fecal matter into the stomach.

Fecal vomiting in newborns: In some cases, newborns may vomit feces if they have a congenital abnormality of the digestive system.

So, without having to waste my own time any further about your claim, here's a thread or two covering this very article down below. None of this correlates to your earlier claim that he vomited feces or anyone for that matter because of SN otherwise it would've been distinctly isolated as a phenomenon associated with this method. Also, this guy took it just days after Matthew Mindler which means he most likely didn't even know what he was doing since it was a copycat attempt. It didn't even look like he followed any specifics regarding the regimen because 8g is a very lethal amount.

Again, taking the worst case scenario and applying as the consensus of what will happen out of anxiety and fear.

A case of SN

A 23‐year‐old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post‐traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented...

sanctioned-suicide.net

He survived 8 g. of SN

This is from an NIH paper I found interesting: (23 year old male) presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from (name of store deleted ) (6 hours before...

sanctioned-suicide.net

you can say whatever you want as I don't read it if I don't like it, but do not disrespect my credential. I'm not here to convince you everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

 

[Jessi76]

I would just be careful. If you share a living space with other people I'd say the odds of you getting heard or found before CTB are pretty high. Initially I was gonna get a motel room and sit in a warm bath while I did mine, but funds ran out and now I have to do it in the woods lol. I can't risk my roommate hearing me through my super thin wall and doing something about it.

The thing I'm still super unsure about is how long SN actually takes to be considered fatal. Like if you're unconscious for an hour and a half and get discovered, it seems like that's enough time for you to be saved. It seems to be important that you have at least a few hours of complete isolation to be successful. That's just my two cents though. The only people who actually know are the ones who've seen it happen in person or live streamed

I'm alone in my apartment. But the walls are apparently not that thick, so you can often hear the neighbors. When the neighbor in the room above me coughs, I hear it. This is my problem that worries me.
I also wonder how long it takes to die from SN. It seems to be between 40 minutes and 4 hours. I also wish there was more clarity on this.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Hey, so I think her comment is a case of "let's eat, grandma!" vs "let's eat grandma!"

I think she just forgot a comma between vomiting, feces, and dark blue skin. That article also mentions bowel incontinence lol so vomiting feces is out of the question.

Either way, this is someone who said they worked in a hospital, they've surely must've been around people who've had such conditions of vomiting fecal matter knowing how rare it is, none of it which correlates to anything caused by sn. I'll oblige op probably missed a coma but they were pretty ardent about what they were saying, enough to go ahead and post a link to an article that's been in circulation on this forum going back a few years, the user @aminend posted it a while ago if I recall and he use post medical literature related to sn a lot.

 

[walkingdead2023]

Hey, so I think her comment is a case of "let's eat, grandma!" vs "let's eat grandma!"

I think she just forgot a comma between vomiting, feces, and dark blue skin. That article also mentions bowel incontinence lol so vomiting feces is out of the question.

I think walkingdead is just trying to say that it seems like an undignified and messy death. Which it definitely would be to anyone who finds it, but that's dying in general for ya

I don't think it matters the guy was up (survived) with shit all over him!

No he just meant that this article has already been discussed on the forum. We don't know how pure his sn was and if he followed the protocol

right! Thank you for the clarification

 

[Deleted member 65988]

you can say whatever you want as I don't read it if I don't like it, but do not disrespect my credential. I'm not here to convince you everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

My problem is, you were very specific about you claimed and now that you couldn't even be bothered to correct yourself, you've thrown your toys out of the cot. You stated vomiting feces, that's exactly what you said, none of that was in the article, I even showed what conditions may cause that specific action, none of which are correlated to anything we've seen regarding SN, even in the worst case scenario. I'm not even disrespecting your credential, I'm just surprised someone whose worked in the medical field would've been able to share accurate information the first time around.

 

[DreamEnd]

Oh ok. How long it takes to die from the minute we take SN the right way?

you can say whatever you want as I don't read it if I don't like it, but do not disrespect my credential. I'm not here to convince you everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Oh ok. How long it takes to die from the minute we take SN the right way?

you can say whatever you want as I don't read it if I don't like it, but do not disrespect my credential. I'm not here to convince you everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Ppeh timeline is accurate

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I heard so many stories about vomiting feces

Note that you said "so many" and this is the one story you could come up with, even if it is an exception to the commonality of what this method has shown to do.

 

[notforl0ng]

Either way, this is someone who said they worked in a hospital, they've surely must've been around people who've had such conditions of vomiting fecal matter knowing how rare it is, none of it which correlates to anything caused by sn. I'll oblige op probably missed a coma but they were pretty ardent about what they were saying, enough to go ahead and post a link to an article that's been in circulation on this forum going back a few years, the user @aminend posted it a while ago if I recall and he use post medical literature related to sn a lot.

Yeah I honestly haven't been caught up on the whole conversation. None of it dissuades me from trying SN really. From what the science seems to say, if you're found in time there's no irreversible damage as soon as you're hit with the methylene blue so the most I have to lose is a bit of dignity being found with shitty pants (I'm fasting for 24 hours beforehand anyway) and some time in the psych ward. People just need to research the method they're permanently unaliving themselves with like it's a full time job. I don't get half assing it or expecting yourself to just drift away and look like a pristine human being when somebody finds you.

I genuinely don't care what I look like when I'm found personally, I'm being cremated anyway lol.

 

[walkingdead2023]

My problem is, you were very specific about you claimed and now that you couldn't even be bothered to correct yourself, you've thrown your toys out of the cot. You stated vomiting feces, that's exactly what you said, none of that was in the article, I even showed what conditions may cause that specific action, none of which are correlated to anything we've seen regarding SN, even in the worst case scenario. I'm not even disrespecting your credential, I'm just surprised someone whose worked in the medical field would've been able to share accurate information the first time around.

I'm not working here we're sharing information! I drive while searching and typing so it's obvious people do mistakes by error.. So he didn't throw up feces but he had it all over him and he survived. I don't think there is accurate information anywhere. Unless you was there when someone died after SN to witness none knows exactly what happens once you take it right? Some people die but we don't know their condition or how painful their suicide.. I'm trying to fit in here but I'm getting tortured every time I shared something I'm about to leave you guys and I'm sorry about the misinformation I come here to stay away from my mom verbal abuse but I feel I'm also getting abuse here… corrections; HE DIDNT THROWUP FECES BUT HE HAD IT ALL OVER HIM.

 

[swankysoup]

Would meclizine work for the nausea if i can't get the recommended meds? Also can i use alcohol to calm me down before doing it?

 

[notforl0ng]

Would meclizine work for the nausea if i can't get the recommended meds? Also can i use alcohol to calm me down before doing it?

I wondered about the alcohol too, it seems to not be recommended as it can make you much more likely to throw up. It's how I got rid of my SI with every other attempt so I'm going for benzos this time. There are a couple success stories with OTC antihistamines like meclizine but I wouldn't recommend it. What I'm going to do, and what I know will work, is go to a walk in clinic (family doc would work too) and say that you've had a migraine for going on three days, you've had constant nausea and vomiting and were able to get metoclopramide (use the brand name, act clueless about it) from your mom or friend or whoever, and that managed to do the trick so you were wondering if you could get a script for it as you're having trouble working because of it. Any excuse will do really, I don't think the doc has any reason not to give it to you just based off of that. Try to emphasize that the nausea and vomiting is what's affecting you most.

I'm not working here we're sharing information! I drive while searching and typing so it's obvious people do mistakes by error.. So he didn't throw up feces but he had it all over him and he survived. I don't think there is accurate information anywhere. Unless you was there when someone died after SN to witness none knows exactly what happens once you take it right? Some people die but we don't know their condition or how painful their suicide.. I'm trying to fit in here but I'm getting tortured every time I shared something I'm about to leave you guys and I'm sorry about the misinformation I come here to stay away from my mom verbal abuse but I feel I'm also getting abuse here… corrections; HE DIDNT THROWUP FECES BUT HE HAD IT ALL OVER HIM.

Hey, I'd try not to worry about it too much. Things can get lost in translation, misunderstood, or whatever, we're all thinking about or trying to CTB here :)

 

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I'm not working here we're sharing information! I drive while searching and typing so it's obvious people do mistakes by error.. So he didn't throw up feces but he had it all over him and he survived. I don't think there is accurate information anywhere. Unless you was there when someone died after SN to witness none knows exactly what happens once you take it right? Some people die but we don't know their condition or how painful their suicide.. I'm trying to fit in here but I'm getting tortured every time I shared something I'm about to leave you guys and I'm sorry about the misinformation I come here to stay away from my mom verbal abuse but I feel I'm also getting abuse here… corrections; HE DIDNT THROWUP FECES BUT HE HAD IT ALL OVER HIM.

You're not getting abused, you just didn't say it right the first time if you meant they had vomited which I did ask "if that is what you meant" so I did ask you for clarification there.

How can you say there isn't any accurate information anywhere? There's been quite a few medical articles on sn as a method and what it does from a medical perspective and some of those have been discussed here before, not the first time I've seen that article either nor will it probably the last depending how long I stick around for.

Also, if you look through this forum, there has been sn ctbs that were witnessed over the years, just really of how much you're willing to look through it. There's a general idea of what happens after it's taken and it's been discussed a lot now to the point where most of the conversations are just a revolving door of the same thing over and over again.

I also don't understand what you mean being "tortured all the time", just like I didn't understand what you meant by "thank you for the flower" but if I've stepped out of line in any way, I apologize to you and I'm sorry for your own situation at home too, I suppose I should've been more sensitive in my approach.

there's no irreversible damage as soon as you're hit with the methylene blue so the most I have to lose is a bit of dignity being found with shitty pants (I'm fasting for 24 hours beforehand anyway) and some time in the psych ward.

"Shitty pants" part made me laugh.

Anyway, agreed on all your points.