Method Once and for all is it 15 or 20 LPM for exit bag?

[Ta555]

I know the PPeH and other books say it's 15 LPM. But then I saw @fightingsioux posts say 18-19 LPM is better. @FromGermany was also adamant that 15 LPM is too low and high risk of getting brain damage. There seems to have been a bit of a debate about this among those of us who have exit bag as our main, or back up, methods.

So let's discuss this and settle it. For a classic exit bag (NOT any mask) is 15 LPM enough or is it dangerous?

 

[Raum]

I know the PPeH and other books say it's 15 LPM. But then I saw @fightingsioux posts say 18-19 LPM is better. @FromGermany was also adamant that 15 LPM is too low and high risk of getting brain damage. There seems to have been a bit of a debate about this among those of us who have exit bag as our main, or back up, methods.

So let's discuss this and settle it. For a classic exit bag (NOT any mask) is 15 LPM enough or is it dangerous?

Sad this went un answered, if they are just trolling or they have a point, spreading misinformation is really dangerous especially here.

I don't think from Germany was a reliable source though

 

[WanderingWater]

FYI:. Fightingsioux post.

For any others interested: as long as you have the correct fitting attaching the hose to the regulator, any size will do. You're not welding in a shipyard or inflating the Goodyear Blimp! A very thin gauge length of plastic tubing at 15-20 LPM flow range will keep a turkey roasting bag inflated long enough to do the job.

It's a RANGE!

 

[outrider567]

Sad this went un answered, if they are just trolling or they have a point, spreading misinformation is really dangerous especially here.

I don't think from Germany was a reliable source though

Correct--FromGermany was banned by Greenberg

FYI:. Fightingsioux post.

For any others interested: as long as you have the correct fitting attaching the hose to the regulator, any size will do. You're not welding in a shipyard or inflating the Goodyear Blimp! A very thin gauge length of plastic tubing at 15-20 LPM flow range will keep a turkey roasting bag inflated long enough to do the job.

It's a RANGE!

Correct, and my Nitrogen Tank is at 5 times needed at 3,000 liters, the thin plastic tubing still allows that 15 LPM to flow freely into the bag, dropped my Oxygen from 98 to 45 in 20 seconds

 

[Ta555]

Correct--FromGermany was banned by Greenberg

Correct, and my Nitrogen Tank is at 5 times needed at 3,000 liters, the thin plastic tubing still allows that 15 LPM to flow freely into the bag, dropped my Oxygen from 98 to 45 in 20 seconds

Is Greenberg a mod? If fromgermany was banned by Greenberg of all people that just makes me very suspicious. But whatever, not my game anymore. I got the golden ticket so no nitrogen for me.

 

[outrider567]

Is Greenberg a mod? If fromgermany was banned by Greenberg of all people that just makes me very suspicious. But whatever, not my game anymore. I got the golden ticket so no nitrogen for me.

Well, FromGermany was spreading a lot of misinformation,its unusual to ban someone from a site like this but he got what was coming to him, he was disrupting the mega thread

 

[Ta555]

Well, FromGermany was spreading a lot of misinformation,its unusual to ban someone from a site like this but he got what was coming to him, he was disrupting the mega thread

I'm going to be honest...even though fromGermany was annoying af, I really think he believed all his research and was genuinely worried about people failing even if his views were extreme or misplaced. Greenberg on the other hand I have grown more and more wary of. But as I said, nitrogen is no longer my method so it's neither here nor there for me.

 

[ph0enix]

what's recommended for a 5L tank with 200bar? I don't want to risk to run out of gas.
Better 15 or 20 ?