Discussion On the usefulness of benzos against SI

[Cryptonite]

Just be careful when using benzos, I blacked out and failed my SN attempt because I took too many. Ended up getting sectioned.

Yes, good point, it really needs to be calibrated. It took me like 10 testing doses before I found the right one

 

[Shadow Life]

That's the scariest part of it for me, we don't know what's SI until we get there. I don't have a lot of SI currently (I've gotten very sick before and I didn't go to the ER because I was ok with dying) but I'm scared that when I take SN, I'll get a bunch of SI and freak out and go to the ER.

That is a valid fear.. Out of all the attempts I've made in the past, I never went to the ER. I just woke up the following morning. Now, I'm just waiting for my excessive smoking to turn into COPD - making it more difficult to breathe. Once that happens, I can apply for assisted death. If I'm refused, well, it'll be much easier to ctb when it's already difficult to breathe.. Most people, emotionally-balanced people with love in their lives, would run to the ER if they felt like their body was shutting down. I don't believe I would - but you never know what you'll do until you're actually freaking out.. That is when you'll know what you truly desire: to live or die.

This is why I was trying to source them. I had read on the sn successes thread someone say 'valium really helps to not care' so after that I felt like I had to get them. Tried to do it without. God was I scared X

Edited to add: Does anyone know whether benzos keep you a lot calmer when it comes to struggling to breathe during it and symptoms such as that, and whether they dull any pain? Thanks.

I used to regularly take diazepam (valium) and for me it did not relieve any physical pain, it just slowed my mind from spinning.

 

[Insomniac]

I'd like to share some very subjective experience regarding benzos' influence on SI. In the hope that more members of SS can get little bit of an inspiration for their own experiments.

Today, in the morning, I tried to hold my SN bottle in an attempt to get myself used to it, but I felt very scared. But right now, under the influence of benzos, I could feel that my fear has been decreased significantly. I was able to hold the SN bottle, walk around the room with it, touch it from all sides, with no major problems and fear.

Although benzos are generally considered supplementary, I still think their potential is still underappreciated.

What's your experience? What do you think about this?

I made multiple posts about this and tried a billion times and it doesn't work.

Your SI simple activates before you take the benzos/alcohol and stops you for going overboard or you end up taking a lot but due to alert SI (since SI knows your plan), you end up not being able to do it.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Central alpha 2 agonists are also successful in anxiety. It's also a better option when it comes to withdrawal and addiction. I took 0.6mg of moxonidine on my last CTB attempt. It works well as an axiolytic but I still couldn't. SI is stronger than all of them.

 

[damaged_soul]

That is a valid fear.. Out of all the attempts I've made in the past, I never went to the ER. I just woke up the following morning. Now, I'm just waiting for my excessive smoking to turn into COPD - making it more difficult to breathe. Once that happens, I can apply for assisted death. If I'm refused, well, it'll be much easier to ctb when it's already difficult to breathe.. Most people, emotionally-balanced people with love in their lives, would run to the ER if they felt like their body was shutting down. I don't believe I would - but you never know what you'll do until you're actually freaking out.. That is when you'll know what you truly desire: to live or die.

I used to regularly take diazepam (valium) and for me it did not relieve any physical pain, it just slowed my mind from spinning.

Oh man you're lucky you didn't have to go to the ER! I'm relieved I didn't have to go after my previous attempt too. I'm in a similar boat as you now, I'm having health issues that I'm hoping will become terminal and then I might be able to apply for euthanasia. Specifically, I've been having symptoms of ovarian cancer. Most emotionally-balanced people would freak out if they had a possibility of cancer, but I'm mostly happy lol. My thought process is the opposite from most people. Most people freak out about having a malignant tumor and get relieved if they find out it's benign. Meanwhile I'm freaking out about the possibility of my tumor being benign and am hoping against hope that it will be malignant. I'm trying to delay going to the doctor as long as possible in hopes that the cancer will have a greater chance to spread and I'll have a stronger case for euthanasia. And even if I don't get approved for euthanasia, hopefully I'll die from the cancer or kill myself from the pain.