Obscure Chemicals for use in CTB

[ElevenNine]

Funnily enough, I have access to all kinds of bizarre chemicals(being a chemistry-loving-student) but no access whatsoever to SN. Chemicals that are, potentially, more toxic than SN. For example:

Sodium Cyanide(too afraid of choking to death to ingest)
Ethyl Fluoroacetate
Hydrofluoric acid(40%)
Sodium Azide
Hydrazine hydrate
Mercuric chloride
Barium nitrate
Arsenic trioxide
...as well as other commonly known dangerous chemicals.

I'm just curious, does anyone here know anything about what the exact effects of ingesting any of these compounds might be? All I know is that they're toxic and should not be played around with.

 

[WakingNightmare]

Hello ElevenNine, I have some knowledge of chemistry. Not all of those specifically as some of them are obscure.
Stuff like hydrofluoric acid and mercury would leave you dying in agony. NaN3 looks interesting

You can search "chemical name sds" to read safety datasheets on most chemical supplier websites. Sometimes you can also find stories of people that were exposed to chemicals eg HF on the news.

Edit
Sorry realised you asked about exact effects, I have listed some below I don't know all off the top of my head.
-HF: tissue necrosis, severe bone deep pain, muscle cramps, heart issues and general irritation
-Mercury compounds: shaking, balance issues, mental disturbance: mood + cognitive abilities, cramps etc

 

[ElevenNine]

Stuff like hydrofluoric acid and mercury would leave you dying in agony. NaN3 looks interesting

You can search "chemical name sds" to read safety datasheets on most chemical supplier websites. Sometimes you can also find stories of people that were exposed to chemicals eg HF on the news.

Thanks for the reply. I'll go around searching up the sds for some of these.

 

[WakingNightmare]

Thanks for the reply. I'll go around searching up the sds for some of these.

No worries mate, you can try ChatGPT also I think it's been trained on journals and research papers that aren't paywalled

 

[JesiBel]

I didn't find much information, just these articles:

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Occupational cyanide poisoning

Occupational cyanide poisoning - PMC

Cyanide poisoning has existed for centuries. In most cases, cyanide is combined with other toxic substances; for example with carbon monoxide in fire smoke. Cases of pure cyanide poisoning are rare, and usually due to accidental exposure. Their ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"In the context of severe poisoning, 'primary' respiratory arrest precedes the onset of cardiac arrest, which is followed by the resumption of ventilation and then by final cardiac and respiratory arrest. Loss of consciousness and convulsions are always present. The final cardiorespiratory arrest occurs within 15 min after inhalation. Due to the rapid onset of these symptoms and their fatal consequences, it is therefore extremely important that the appropriate antidote is administered as soon as cyanide poisoning is suspected or has been confirmed."

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Case Files of the Toxikon Consortium in Chicago: Survival after Intentional Ingestion of Hydrofluoric Acid

Case Files of the Toxikon Consortium in Chicago: Survival after Intentional Ingestion of Hydrofluoric Acid - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Pdf:

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Sodium azide poisoning: a narrative review

Sodium azide poisoning: a narrative review - PMC

Sodium azide is a highly toxic chemical. Its production has increased dramatically over the last 30 years due to its widespread use in vehicular airbags, and it is available for purchase online. Thus, accidental exposure to azide or use as a ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Humans can be exposed to azide through three major routes: ingestion, transdermal or transmucosal absorption, or inhalation of hydrazoic acid vapors or sodium azide dust particles. At low doses, azide causes dizziness, nausea, vomiting, and restlessness. At high doses, it causes seizures, hypotension, metabolic acidosis, coma, and respiratory failure. Symptoms occur within minutes of exposure."

 

[ElevenNine]

On second thought maybe I should leave these chemicals be... they seem too nasty to be even remotely feasible.

 

[Linda]

Of the chemicals on your list, sodium (or potassium) cyanide is probably the most sensible one. The fatal dose is small, and death is rapid. However it is not easy to obtain.

 

[loser4ever4life]

1) isn't sodium azide in the PPeH?

2) you say you're a chemistry loving, high school or university? Because I have a follow up if you're university but I want to know you're an adult

 

[ElevenNine]

University student obviously...Honestly what the living heck would a high school want to do with hydrofluoric acid?

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

The holes in our bodies are even more dark. Not even archaeologists would venture into such darkness. I open my anus and vagina to an even more unexplored and disturbing mystery.️