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Living sucks

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Mar 27, 2020
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so I poured another 1/5 cap full
And drank that.​
  • I instantly got dizzy
  • felt weak in my heart
  • hands tingled more than normal
  • Was very lightheaded and worried I'd pass out
  • and SI became strong
In all honesty, none of these effects sound particularly distressing, especially not when knowing in advance to expect them. This is especially the case when they are compared with the symptoms and suffering you presumably experience regularly as a result of your medical conditions. From your level of distress experienced at such relatively mild effects of SN, the one thing this test may have been useful in showing is that you are perhaps less emotionally ready to be attempting suicide than you may think.
I panicked and was extremely distressed and you must have bypassed that I have stated, (several times) I don't want to die, i will never be ready to ctb, but I'm in a hell no one can deal with, worse than torture, physically and mentally..
what i felt from a cap full caused me to panic and fear so i am very concerned taking a larger qty and yelling for help. I'm in a care home and have a call buzzer and I'm afraid I'll push it. I needed to gauge this feeling

However, I can say with a high degree of confidence that you will reach unconsciousness and death much more quickly if you use the recommended dosage of SN, follow the fasting protocols and use the optional add-on medications.
That's I'm not disputing that your test gave you an accurate picture of what you will feel, although I do believe the symptoms may have been slightly alleviated had you followed all of the fasting protocols, and definitely alleviated had you added in the optional medications. But I am disputing the benefit of having done this test in the first place. Had you asked any experienced person in advance, they could have told you the symptoms you were likely to experience. In fact, you come across as an intelligent and experienced member and I would have assumed you would already know these symptoms yourself. What you don't seem aware of, however, is that the low dosage of SN used, and failure to follow the fasting protocols, meant that your test had very little likelihood of being fatal. As such, you just put yourself through a lengthy period of suffering without even getting the reward of death at the end of it.

Hoping for 'accidental passing' is just fanciful if you deliberately take a vastly inadequate dose of SN and fail to follow the protocol. It's really not clear to me why you didn't either not do the pointless test at all, or change the fantasy of 'accidental passing' into deliberate passing by increasing the dose to the recommended amount.



It makes no difference whether or not you wanted opinions as to whether or not you receive them. In fact as a rule I would generally think it the most important to consider giving opinions when someone specifically forbids them, because it suggests they already know that their position is untenable or controversial.

You seem like a decent person, and it genuinely pains me to hear of you going through the suffering of your test for such pointless reasons. That's why I'm being honest in my assessment of it, to hopefully at least prevent others from making the same mistakes.



But you also know with a relatively high degree of certainty what you are going to experience if you test a small amount of SN. This is of course assuming you are a relatively average person in terms of normal gastric functioning etc.

It just puzzles me that the same people who trust a doctor to provide medical treatment or a mechanic to fix their car do not have the same degree of trust in the experts who explain the mechanisms of a poison like SN.



Obviously adding in the optional medications will target the nausea and headaches. And taking the recommended dosage of SN will lead to unconsciousness and death within a relatively short timeframe.

But even without the optional medications, are you saying that a hypothetical period of 20 minutes of nausea, tiredness and migraine is much harder to bear than simply continuing to stay alive? Because if so, then perhaps you aren't as ready to be suiciding as you may think.
I'm too tired to piece out your response.

I can't follow any protocol, I can't get the meds and it doesn't matter anyway bcuz all meds have paradoxical affects and don't work how they're supposed to cuz of my gut.

i did this bcus I have nothing normal about my gut and didn't have a clue how it would affect me.. I had already contacted several key members and had been discussing

you dont know or understand my situation And I disclaimed don't do it unless you are prepared to die..and/or suffer.

I have an opportunity to be exposed to Covid by going to the hospital and even though I know that will cause a painful death .. it will be out of my control and I honestly prefer that. That's how scared I am to do this to myself.. but living another year like I am cannot happen!

imagine your worst nightmare of health, isolated, bedridden, can't eat, wasting, rapid aging, feeling like the worst hangover ever everyday, and so much more and then live it for 3 years .. but most would have ctbd by now.. I can't do it.

If I felt peaceful .. it would have helped me take a bigger dose or take more at that time to cause unconsciousness.. i had a moment of bravery and did how I could .. it didn't work out , I shared, back off.
 
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ceelo

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May 18, 2020
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covid causes a peaceful death via happy hypoxia.
 
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bigdog

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Jul 12, 2020
434
My SN is almost here. But unfortunately can't get my hands on benzos. This sucks because Seroquel doesn't make me blackout
 
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Tigeress Lost

Lost Tigeress In A Human Body
Jul 30, 2020
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How r you
Peace be with u
Don't be so hard on yourself
Take it easy
 
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limpingtowardfreedom

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Apr 19, 2020
70
True, I know it the hard way actually. I also did some SN testing, but a much, much lower dose and felt like shit afterwards: bit nauseous, tired, migraine for a few hours.
It made me scared of using the CTB recommended dosage of SN, so testing SN works counterproductive indeed :ehh:
Did you have the burning sensation OP described?
 
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yetme

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Oct 20, 2019
486
I panicked and was extremely distressed and you must have bypassed that I have stated, (several times) I don't want to die, i will never be ready to ctb, but I'm in a hell no one can deal with, worse than torture, physically and mentally..
what i felt from a cap full caused me to panic and fear so i am very concerned taking a larger qty and yelling for help. I'm in a care home and have a call buzzer and I'm afraid I'll push it. I needed to gauge this feeling


I'm too tired to piece out your response.

I can't follow any protocol, I can't get the meds and it doesn't matter anyway bcuz all meds have paradoxical affects and don't work how they're supposed to cuz of my gut.

i did this bcus I have nothing normal about my gut and didn't have a clue how it would affect me.. I had already contacted several key members and had been discussing

you dont know or understand my situation And I disclaimed don't do it unless you are prepared to die..and/or suffer.

I have an opportunity to be exposed to Covid by going to the hospital and even though I know that will cause a painful death .. it will be out of my control and I honestly prefer that. That's how scared I am to do this to myself.. but living another year like I am cannot happen!

imagine your worst nightmare of health, isolated, bedridden, can't eat, wasting, rapid aging, feeling like the worst hangover ever everyday, and so much more and then live it for 3 years .. but most would have ctbd by now.. I can't do it.

If I felt peaceful .. it would have helped me take a bigger dose or take more at that time to cause unconsciousness.. i had a moment of bravery and did how I could .. it didn't work out , I shared, back off.

If you still feel the side effects from SN, remember the antidote is Methylene Blue. That's what they give you in a hospital. You can tell the medics that you accidentally injested SN, so they can give you IV.
 
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Mgl91

Nothing is real
Feb 16, 2020
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I always wonder. if i drink lps 25g is there a chance that i live? that would be shit. I couldn't go to the hospital, they would intern me.
 
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ROKU

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May 10, 2020
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My SN is almost here. But unfortunately can't get my hands on benzos. This sucks because Seroquel doesn't make me blackout
Is it OK to share here? I need to know how/where to get the right SN, and I have the other, but maybe that's not allowed here? I don't really understand how to navigate this site very well.
 
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IsThisReal

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Jul 3, 2021
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@Living sucks Could you please let us know if the exacerbation of your tinnitus was temporary? I have relatively loud tinnitus myself (that is one reason why I am here) and don't want to risk it increasing after a failed attempt with SN just in case.
 
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aminend

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May 24, 2020
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@Living sucks Could you please let us know if the exacerbation of your tinnitus was temporary? I have relatively loud tinnitus myself (that is one reason why I am here) and don't want to risk it increasing after a failed attempt with SN just in case.
@living socks did ctb by SN months ago
 
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Oh. May he/she rest in peace then. And thank you for answering me.
I am not dead. I'm trying to recover. My tinnitus has never subsided. But I'm going to see a dr next month who might be able to help me.
Tinnitus is not an ear issue, it's a brain issue, specifically from the Limbic system. You need to see a Dr that specializes in the nervous system or limbic system… like a nuero acupuncturist, or meridian regulatory acupuncture or even try the Gupta system for retraining the limbic brain. I will let you know if my treatments help, tinnitus is horrific.
 
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IsThisReal

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I am not dead. I'm trying to recover. My tinnitus has never subsided. But I'm going to see a dr next month who might be able to help me.
Tinnitus is not an ear issue, it's a brain issue, specifically from the Limbic system. You need to see a Dr that specializes in the nervous system or limbic system… like a nuero acupuncturist, or meridian regulatory acupuncture or even try the Gupta system for retraining the limbic brain. I will let you know if my treatments help, tinnitus is horrific.
Oh ok, thanks for the reply :)
Well I acquired my tinnitus from taking a very low dose of chlorine dioxide or the so called MMS. I don't know how it happened. There are thousands of people on the MMS forum who took it and never had such issue.
Mine is also very untypical, it sounds like waves and it can be induced by tilting my head forward and fluctuates a lot during the day which makes habituation rather difficult.

So just to have things clear. If I understood you correctly you did have tinnitus before drinking the SN? and after your experiment with it it became louder and never improved since?
 
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Correct, i had it prior and it got much worse after the small amount of SN. It did improve slightly a few months after but is still maddening … never stops. Mine sounds like hissing tires in my ears. Yours almost sounds like fluid in your ears.
it is essentially from brain damage.
 
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IsThisReal

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Jul 3, 2021
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Hmm ok. So I guess I should either go for a full dose SN or never at all.
I never heard of "fluid in ears". I just searched for it and I don't know if I have it though. I went to the ENT doctor shortly after it happened and he said everything was fine. But from what I just read, diagnosing fluid in the ears requires a skilled physician, so it might have been missed.
 
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Anonymous 4

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Jun 26, 2021
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Firstly this is highly discouraged. Do not taste or test SN if you don't want to die.

I did this on purpose as I have severe health issues especially my gut. I have ulcers, ulcerative colitis, ischemia, hernias, my gut and immune system are destroyed. Severe dehydration, malnourished and bad organ function including heart.
I did this to try to get a small picture of what I might feel as I don't want my last minutes to be hell and I scream for help as I'm never alone and can't be alone..

I had eaten 2 hours prior to this

So I dissolved about 1-2g in approx 20- 30ml water. I can't measure exact bcuz it will raise flags needing the items.

I first poured a cap full and put it in my mouth, swished it and spit it out. I felt nothing so I did that again. Still nothing. It tasted like normal salt water but obviously this is a low concentration. At 25g I imagine it's more like Epsom salts.

then I poured about 1/5 cap full and swallowed it. I felt burning in my transverse colon quickly like mild heart burn. After a few mins had mild tingling in my hands. Slight lightheaded blurred vision no heart issues
This was over approx 10 mins

so I poured another 1/5 cap full
And drank that. I instantly got dizzy, felt weak in my heart, hands tingled more than normal. Was very lightheaded and worried I'd pass out and SI became strong.. i had fear but I am dying regardless so tbh accidental death would be preferred.

I prepared to log out and clear history in case I passed out and the symptoms started easing up..., this was approx 7 mins.

After doing this I believe that FOR ME (and possibly others with SEVERE gut issues, not mild ibs) a small dose will cause all symptoms to be exacerbated and possibly lose consciousness quickly ..
My fear is that if I don't lose consciousness quickly the pain I'll experience will be more than I can handle and call for help.

It's now been 30-40 minutes and i feel heavier than normal and heavy chest during breathing ...

This is definitely not how I wanted to pass or imagined I'd ever experience. I will be clear, I don't want to die, but my health circumstances make it impossible to go on and YES I've tried everything.. to the tune of $200k plus conventional insurance .. there is 0 quality for me.

maybe this helps someone with as bad health as me to decide on SN or not
i will answer questions if any

TLDR: it's gonna suck
Why wouldn't you use N? Is there a reason you can't take it or something?
 
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Why wouldn't you use N? Is there a reason you can't take it or something?
I've learned I can't take anything. My SI and will to live, even suffering, is too strong. I had access to N but I panicked and backed out.
Im trying to find a way to live
 
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Anonymous 4

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I've learned I can't take anything. My SI and will to live, even suffering, is too strong. I had access to N but I panicked and backed out.
Im trying to find a way to live
But in my eyes N bypass's SI, unlike the
Other methods where your awake while SI kicks in, with N, you simply fall asleep, and don't wake up, you won't experience any SI what so ever.
 
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But in my eyes N bypass's SI, unlike the
Other methods where your awake while SI kicks in, with N, you simply fall asleep, and don't wake up, you won't experience any SI what so ever.
I had SI just knowing N was about to be shipped to me. Not the customs or mailing part… just knowing it would be the end drinking it.
I don't want to die, i just want to stop suffering. Mine is physical suffering… I wanted to live to be 100 so I've decided to stop trying to force ctb on myself.
so i realized I'm not capable of ctb no matter how peaceful.
it's not about the method, it's about dying.
 
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Aug 12, 2019
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I had SI just knowing N was about to be shipped to me. Not the customs or mailing part… just knowing it would be the end drinking it.
I don't want to die, i just want to stop suffering. Mine is physical suffering… I wanted to live to be 100 so I've decided to stop trying to force ctb on myself.
so i realized I'm not capable of ctb no matter how peaceful.
it's not about the method, it's about dying.
i hope you get what you want which to me seems to want to recover and live. i remember you used to be so active here despite your horrible physical problems. and then you suddenly stopped posting so i guess some of us did think you ctb. your post along with others' is making me see how bad si can be
 
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I had SI just knowing N was about to be shipped to me. Not the customs or mailing part… just knowing it would be the end drinking it.
I don't want to die, i just want to stop suffering. Mine is physical suffering… I wanted to live to be 100 so I've decided to stop trying to force ctb on myself.
so i realized I'm not capable of ctb no matter how peaceful.
it's not about the method, it's about dying.
I can understand that, your case is different to mine, I'm sorry for your suffering, and I wish some how your suffering could stop.
 
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aminend

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May 24, 2020
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I am not dead. I'm trying to recover. My tinnitus has never subsided. But I'm going to see a dr next month who might be able to help me.
Tinnitus is not an ear issue, it's a brain issue, specifically from the Limbic system. You need to see a Dr that specializes in the nervous system or limbic system… like a nuero acupuncturist, or meridian regulatory acupuncture or even try the Gupta system for retraining the limbic brain. I will let you know if my treatments help, tinnitus is horrific.
Nice to meet u again. I'm happy u r alive. Sorry I think u did ctb because I didn't see ur activity any more
 
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If you drank 25g SN in 50ml of water, surely you would go unconscious quickly so you wouldn't feel all those effects?
 

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