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MethodNew Method | The "Heath Ledger"
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I wonder what he would think knowing a method was named after him. So tragic. I remember the day he passed so clearly as I was working down the street from his apartment and the ambulances rushed outside our windows.
I really badly want and wish this method to be valid - it is quite similar to what I had been planning for (a major amount of benzo and opiate).
I am just wondering what people's thoughts are as to the input in the opiate method thread as to that opiates even in best case are supposedly only 3-6% chance of succeeding.
I am NOT trying to be cynical about this I intend this as my method also. But I am trying hard to explore as in detail as possible, as I need a method where it's at least a majority chance it will work.
Propranolol might significantly help with the consequences of adrenaline.
Purging common symptoms of amygdala hyperactivity like sweaty palms, shortness of breath and chest tightness. And of course, as any person here with SN knowledge knows, it prevents tachycardia (the racing of the heart)
So I absolutely recommend to take 100-200mg of Propranolol together with a Kitty-flip (MDMA first + Ketamine after 4-5 hours)
The propranolol should be consumed roughly 15-20 Minutes before taking the "Ledger drink", because it puts a heavy toll on your blood system and might lead to you passing out quickly before you can take the drink.
Under a normal Kitty-flip this behavior can not be observed.
Please do not combine all three drugs if you are NOT sure about dying. This alone might cause you to collapse and cause significant liver damage.
Be sure in what you do. This might ruin your life permanently!!!
I also want to reiterate that ketamine and MDMA massively help to reduce any type of SI for any CTB method.
Further research into the topic showed me just what type of impact it has on your Amygdala's connection to the rest of the brain. Also, very much proven in a self-experiment. I was absolutely ready to take the "Ledger drink" if I wasn't flipping with 2 other people. My usual reaction of a "panic" reaction going from the stomach up to the brain completely stopped. I was unable to react with any significant negative emotions to the thought of my own mortality in any way.
MDMA drastically decreases reactivity inside the amygdala while also increasing the connection between the amygdala and the hippocampus which forces the amygdala to stop signaling fear and allowing your hippocampus to "witness" memories without any emotional charge. So you basically can stare at the "ledger drink" fully knowing that you will die drinking that and not feel anything. Maybe even an intense sense of euphoria due to the serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine overdose in your brain. Usually due to the amygdala going absolutely crazy on the Hippocampus making it struggle to put anything into context, you would feel massive fear towards ending your own life.
Due to the increased functional connection they basically are "synchronized" now and the hippocampus makes sure that the amygdala does not trigger a physical panic response towards any outside event.
This combines well with the Ketamine that massively reduces neural reactivity across the entire connection between the amygdala and hippocampus which causes the amygdala to be highly isolated from the rest of the neural system.
And yet another research that I will get myself into will be the effect of LSD and Psilocybin on fear response.
While clinical studies suggest that it got a lot of positive effects on the fear response there is too much variability between each trip. I took 300ug LSD roughly a month ago and while I did have a very insightful trip I would not dare say that my fear was reduced in any significant way. Then again, this is an anecdotal answer. This may vary widely from person to person and also significantly depends on the LSD dosage. 300ug is already quite a lot. 100ug might lead to different results.
I will attempt an Ali-flip this weekend (LSD + MDMA + 2C-B) and maybe a quantum flip (LSD + MDMA + Psilocybin + Ketamine) with additional 2C-B.
2C-B Is great to dampen the extreme come down from these drugs.
You will soon hear from me again :>
Thank you for reading. I am quite impressed with the results of my research and especially my self-experiment. I was not aware that it was possible to reduce SI to this extreme extent.
Have a wonderful rest of the day and I hope I was able to make you manage your SI now
Disclaimer:Drugs are still drugs. Please do not treat them like candy. They have intense effects on your entire bodily system and especially affect your psychological system. You may come out worse than before!
All this research specifically focuses on drug usage for CTB purposes. In those scenarios bodily functioning does not matter anymore.
Doing this just for the "fun of it" will most definitely make your life worse than before
I want to say thank you for the research you've done, I've found it extremely valuable, but I want to follow up on your discovery that Ket and MDMA help inhibit SI. From the way you describe it, this discovery seems pretty groundbreaking for it's universal applicability and effectiveness. I'm already planning to order the two drugs from DH after reading this, but I was hoping you could elaborate as much as possible on the protocol you used to achieve this SI inhibiting effect (i.e. dosages and timings) and anything else you think might be valuable.
I really badly want and wish this method to be valid - it is quite similar to what I had been planning for (a major amount of benzo and opiate).
I am just wondering what people's thoughts are as to the input in the opiate method thread as to that opiates even in best case are supposedly only 3-6% chance of succeeding.
I am NOT trying to be cynical about this I intend this as my method also. But I am trying hard to explore as in detail as possible, as I need a method where it's at least a majority chance it will work.
Yes this method is extremely unreliable. I recently tried with 1000 mg of morphine, 85 mg oxycodone and 60 mg valium. The morphine alone "should" have killed me as I'm opioid naive.
I know my cocktail didn't contain as much , or as many different meds, as is recommended, but still it was A LOT. An amount often purported to be lethal.
Yet, here I am. Really, really damaged. Body destroyed by the attempt, but here and miserable. So much worse than before, even.
Statistically, opioids and benzos/sleeping pills are not a safe bet.
Yes this method is extremely unreliable. I recently tried with 1000 mg of morphine, 85 mg oxycodone and 60 mg valium. The morphine alone "should" have killed me as I'm opioid naive.
I know my cocktail didn't contain as much , or as many different meds, as is recommended, but still it was A LOT. An amount often purported to be lethal.
Yet, here I am. Really, really damaged. Body destroyed by the attempt, but here and miserable. So much worse than before, even.
Statistically, opioids and benzos/sleeping pills are not a safe bet.
i havent rtead all pages of the thread but i'd also just take a therapetic dose of doxylamine first cause that shit makes me tweak the fuck out like im on meth
I love researching a lot about things before I do them :>
You can easily get them on DH :P
Especially in Europe, India and the US.
Amazing. You will feel extremely drowsy, super sedated and not being able to form one clear thought because of the Midazolam you take beforehand.
You will not rven remember that you took the drink. Everything will suddenly become warm, cuddly and like you are being put in cotton, like you are hugged by god himself and then you just pass out. All that in the span of 5 Minutes.
There is a reason why opioids are being abused that hard :')
Yes this method is extremely unreliable. I recently tried with 1000 mg of morphine, 85 mg oxycodone and 60 mg valium. The morphine alone "should" have killed me as I'm opioid naive.
I know my cocktail didn't contain as much , or as many different meds, as is recommended, but still it was A LOT. An amount often purported to be lethal.
Yet, here I am. Really, really damaged. Body destroyed by the attempt, but here and miserable. So much worse than before, even.
Statistically, opioids and benzos/sleeping pills are not a safe bet.
Even on this site, 600-800 mg of morphine is purported to be an ample amount to kill, just on it's own. 1000 mg is a HUGE amount. It should have been enough.
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"dying is like taking off a tight shoe" - ram dass
I was in a coma for 3 days(in spite of a continuous Narcan drip) during which time I lost ALL of my muscle mass and significant weight overall.
Severe opioid overdose can do permanent damage to the GI system. I am emaciated now and cannot eat enough to gain any weight. Opioid overdose can damage stamina and exercise capacity. I am incredibly weak. Even if I COULD eat enough it's doubtful I could do enough strength training to rebuild muscle.
I feel completely different. Worse. Way worse than before, even with the health issues I already had.
I wonder why this method, in the initial post, proposes 1000mg of morphine and only 160mg of oxycodone. I'd easily swap those around and take a megadose of oxy, due to the higher bioavailability of oxy and the potentiation by grapefruit juice. The morphine does not get broken down by the CYP3A4 enzyme while oxy does. Any opinions on this?
To add; I tested some zolpidem and it doesn't really do anything for me other than initiate my sleep. I still wake up 4-5 hours after taking it, while temazepam (though it could be harder to source) definitly works a lot longer than that. Also, quetiapine is a very decent sedative, especially also because it's primarily broken down by CYP3A4 thus affected by the grapefruit..
I love researching a lot about things before I do them :>
You can easily get them on DH :P
Especially in Europe, India and the US.
Amazing. You will feel extremely drowsy, super sedated and not being able to form one clear thought because of the Midazolam you take beforehand.
You will not rven remember that you took the drink. Everything will suddenly become warm, cuddly and like you are being put in cotton, like you are hugged by god himself and then you just pass out. All that in the span of 5 Minutes.
There is a reason why opioids are being abused that hard :')
I boofed some of the morphine, the rest I drank crushed and dissolved in water. I swallowed the oxycodone whole. The valium I took 10 mg half hour before, the rest with everything else.
Not found til 6 hours later. In total respiratory failure. Possibly minutes from death. Was in a coma for 3 days in spite of a continuous Narcan drip.
I would not take Opioids orally. Add 0,5€ to the cost and get a 5-10ml syringe, a needle and cigarette filters. Crush the pills on a spoon, add water and filter with a syringe through that cigarette filter. It will hit 5 times harder and there's no risk of vomiting everything. Bonus if you can get non-pasteurizer grapefruit juice. It will stop the liver from metabolizing opioids. This juice made me high for over 40h back in the day.
Just a fair warning. Such IV could be deadly on its own without a tolerance and other listed drugs. Also please don't test your opioids. You'll just end up addicted for life.
I was in a coma for 3 days(in spite of a continuous Narcan drip) during which time I lost ALL of my muscle mass and significant weight overall.
Severe opioid overdose can do permanent damage to the GI system. I am emaciated now and cannot eat enough to gain any weight. Opioid overdose can damage stamina and exercise capacity. I am incredibly weak. Even if I COULD eat enough it's doubtful I could do enough strength training to rebuild muscle.
I feel completely different. Worse. Way worse than before, even with the health issues I already had.
I was found 6 hours later in total respiratory failure. Would have died. Paramedics told my husband I was "minutes away." I wonder if that was a true estimate.
I was found 6 hours later in total respiratory failure. Would have died. Paramedics told my husband I was "minutes away." I wonder if that was a true estimate.
This might be a stupid question but how are yall collecting these meds? The only otc one is doxy and everything else I would need to get a prescription for which my parents would find highly suspicious.
This might be a stupid question but how are yall collecting these meds? The only otc one is doxy and everything else I would need to get a prescription for which my parents would find highly suspicious.
Thank you kind citizen! Unfortunately the links seem to be down leading to DH. So I'm going to try it on my computer if not I'll comeback to it and try again later. Are you also experiencing this problem?
Thank you kind citizen! Unfortunately the links seem to be down leading to DH. So I'm going to try it on my computer if not I'll comeback to it and try again later. Are you also experiencing this problem?
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