Discussion Nembutal and Googles "Controlled Substance" Section

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Okay so here's where I'm at so far this is what Googles "Controlled Substance" section says about Nembutal

"Can cause paranoid or suicidal ideation and impair memory, judgment, and coordination. Combining with other substances, particularly alcohol, can slow breathing and possibly lead to death."

I've been doing a bit of research on Nembutal, and and from my POV I'm not seeing any possible way that Nembutal make's people paranoid or enhances feelings of paranoia after taking it, even at non lethal doses. However, it further goes to say, "suicidal ideation and impair memory, judgment, and coordination." now in my mind that's just annoying. So, in peoples eyes who see people who have overdosed from Nembutal, just because there was Nembutal in their system one may make the argument that it was the true reason for wanting to commit suicide and caused a lapse in judgement therefore making any of your feelings discreditable after death. Even if you have written a note letting everyone know the truth, it can be fully dismissed as drug use causing this lapse in judgement, and I get that after you're gone you probably won't care all to much, but it's still very annoying in life for people to be able to look at suicidal people in this way.

A website I found goes to further say it causes "Residual sedation, drowsiness, lethargy, vertigo, nausea, vomiting, headache." Now, the first two can be looked at as good as well as vertigo depending on who you are, but the rest of them bad. I can't see at any point this being the actual case especially for an overdose amount, they're known as "Peaceful Pills" for a reason I would suspect, and I also can't find any use reports stating this is what happened when taking it. I feel like they say stuff like this about known suicide substances A. Because some people can't understand suicide in a rational mind set and B. because the ones who can still don't really care enough to say otherwise and be labeled and C. because it allows for the suicide prevention type people to to legally kidnap you and force you to submit to their medications, processes, etc. I think it's a way to make you submit to their views.

These are just a little bit of my views on the subject personally, but I do think it's fairly annoying. I mean, even if you had a barb in your system only from a previous attempt, and told maybe your family that you were suicidal, and personally checked in somewhere that say drug tested, they could give you completely improper treatment just because they think the barb is what caused it in the first place. Actually, I would say any drug for that matter, even just weed they would say things like the drugs are what caused it even if the drugs are CLEARLY not the problem and just because you use them, all the actual problems in your life that don't even closely stem from the use of substances are now completely dismissed. I think it's a very unhealthy way to look at things but this is just my opinion.

 

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All depressant drugs have those risks associated with them. It's extremely unlikely that one would have that reaction from a single or occasional dose, however using barbiturates, benzodiazepines or any other cns depressant (like opioids) over time can severely impair one's judgment or decision making ability. And they definitely can cause lack of coordination even from a single dose. But I believe that the suicidal ideation & poor judgment is referring to people who chronically abuse depressants and develop a dependency (which is a nightmare, let me tell you). W/d is brutal & the PAWs can last 1yr or more.. some people never fully get back to normal after being dependent.
The other reason I say that it is a valid statement (albeit without any context) is because people can & do have paradoxical reactions to drugs. For example , some people fall asleep on stimulants or become more calm; and a much larger majority of people experience paradoxical reactions to CNS depressant drugs. Like they may take diazepam only to feel more anxious on it. That's >10% of people, but still something that happens. And most people who become dependent on such substances will experience all those symptoms when they are not on the drug. Even patients who take a daily dose may experience what is known as interdose withdrawal.
This is only something that happens to those who are dependent, but one must consider that the majority of people who use those drugs regularly are going to become dependent (definitely physically & some people become mentally dependent on them too). I think that's where that statement which seems almost ludicrous comes from. Also google isn't the best source for accurate information about drugs & psychoactive medications. There are much better resources & I am certain that people who are educated/experience on the subject would reiterate that those issues (suicidal ideation and impair memory, judgment, and coordination) are indeed issues they deal with because of their substance use.