N vs SN

[Crazy4u]

Is there a big difference between the two in terms of CTB effectiveness? N is way more expensive. Why is it considered better than SN?

 

[NotSureToEndure]

From everything I've read on these forums, N is considered to be more peaceful and effective. There's a lot of threads out there discussing them both.

N is harder to source, more expensive and used by euthanasia clinics.

SN is cheaper, and easier to source (though has got harder recently), it also requires a bit more prep to be certain you won't fail (though it's good to be prepared with N as well!).

I believe people refer to N as the holy grail of CTB methods, but if you do it right SN can get you to the same place. I think it's easier to reverse the effects of SN once taken as well.

 

[Ta555]

Is there a big difference between the two in terms of CTB effectiveness? N is way more expensive. Why is it considered better than SN?

N is an anaesthetic. When they use it for euthanasia it's just an anaesthetic given at a fatal dose. SN is a poison not meant to be used in any medical or biological way.
So N is peaceful like an anaesthetic is peaceful. SN is a poison. That's why you need antiemetics, antacids, benzos etc. Well you don't NEED them but they help make the method more peaceful. But it will never be as peaceful as N.

 

[blueclover_.]

N is an anaesthetic. When they use it for euthanasia it's just an anaesthetic given at a fatal dose. SN is a poison not meant to be used in any medical or biological way.
So N is peaceful like an anaesthetic is peaceful. SN is a poison. That's why you need antiemetics, antacids, benzos etc. Well you don't NEED them but they help make the method more peaceful. But it will never be as peaceful as N.

Yuppp. I'm so tired of seeing some SN survivors blaming the SN for not being 100% peaceful like N when they did the EXACT opposite of the protocol.

 

[Death is beautiful]

of course N is more peaceful than SN, but not everyone can afford N, so they choose SN

 

[Deformationalplagio]

Yuppp. I'm so tired of seeing some SN survivors blaming the SN for not being 100% peaceful like N when they did the EXACT opposite of the protocol.

To be fair chemist in the netherlands stated that sn most defnitly is a painfull method. And those are chemists that work together with euthanasia clinics. Sn is a bit overated when it comes to peacefulness but there isnt much choise

 

[Ta555]

To be fair chemist in the netherlands stated that sn most defnitly is a painfull method. And those are chemists that work together with euthanasia clinics. Sn is a bit overated when it comes to peacefulness but there isnt much choise

Painful in what way?

 

[Meditation guide]

It is reasonable to think if the lining of your stomach is damaged such as with an ulcer SN is going to be painful.

 

[MG_39]

N is an anaesthetic. When they use it for euthanasia it's just an anaesthetic given at a fatal dose. SN is a poison not meant to be used in any medical or biological way.
So N is peaceful like an anaesthetic is peaceful. SN is a poison. That's why you need antiemetics, antacids, benzos etc. Well you don't NEED them but they help make the method more peaceful. But it will never be as peaceful as N.

Yes, and also N was used as a sleeping medicine before barbiturates/Z-drugs.

SN is actually used medically as an "antidote" for cyanide poisoning. But probably not that common nowadays.

 

[Ta555]

Yes, and also N was used as a sleeping medicine before barbiturates/Z-drugs.

SN is actually used medically as an "antidote" for cyanide poisoning. But probably not that common nowadays.

Oh well you learn something new every day! Thanks!

 

[MG_39]

Oh well you learn something new every day! Thanks!

Of course I meant benzodiazepines/Z-drugs not barbiturates/z-drugs.

 

[summers]

There isn't much of a difference between the two if taken orally. If you can get N at 400mg/ml, and inject it, that would be substantially better.

Personally, I would rather od on H iv than take something orally.

 

[Crazy4u]

There isn't much of a difference between the two if taken orally. If you can get N at 400mg/ml, and inject it, that would be substantially better.

Personally, I would rather od on H iv than take something orally.

me2 because I have sensitive stomach. Can you elaborate on the H?

I get mixed opinions on it. Some ppl say od on H is very peaceful. The PPH doesn't recommend it

Painful in what way?

even if it was painful, it doesn't seem to be so painful. This is death after all.

I read somewhere on quora that buying N is illegal in the us. SN is cheaper and legal. I wish the other items like meto were easier to get

 

[summers]

me2 because I have sensitive stomach. Can you elaborate on the H?

I get mixed opinions on it. Some ppl say od on H is very peaceful.

I don't know tbh. I think you wind up just passing out. I remember one person on here tried to od by H, didn't take enough, and survived. She had some lingering nerve and/or brain damage. So kind of risky. At the same time, you are junkies with crazy high tolerances od all the time. I think if you are even considering going this way, you need a way to test the purity of the H. Once confirmed, I would go way overboard, like 20x a lethal dose.

 

[Starchaser]

I think N is pretty much harder to get, even If you have the money.
You can buy it on deepweb but will you swallow a thing that you're not sure if it's original or not? This scare the shit out of me.

I'm 75% sure at this point that SN is not 100% peaceful, but the symptoms are usually:
Nausea, Accelerated Heart Rate (160~170 bpm+ were related by survivors), feeling out of breath, blue body parts, low blood pressure and some headache.

Nausea we can medicate with Anti-emetics, headache with painkillers and maybe xanax for helping the anxiety/high heart rate....
So apparently, we would just have to worry with medium heart rate, lack of breath (which is probably the worse), some nausea and stress.
At least this is what i'm aware of.
Most of this will last 15~25m before you get unconscious and eventually die.