N from A Megathread 2

[speck]

Holy crap, This is a lot of new scandal. I've been watching people order n and "exit" from the forum for almost two years now so this is really confusing?? A lot of people stopped sending to energy control once the powder dried up and once covid made mail times difficult and slow so I'm really skeptical but like.... I don't know. I'm away from the computer Can anyone give me a bullet point roundup of the allegations here?

 

[ihsdpm]

Damn. And I just bought it from D today.

 

[HopelessFight]

Damn. And I just bought it from D today.

I wouldn't worry too much before we have more confirmations about this.

 

[Thiopentone31]

Could we ask directly to EC to ask if such a report is legit? As format i mean.
if someone more skilled than me in english could write down a message I could try to send it to exit ( i have a ticket opened for other reasons)

 

[ihsdpm]

I wouldn't worry too much before we have more confirmations about this.

Thanks man. If I'm out $700, so be it, but this is really disappointing if true. Not sure if I feel comfortable even taking it if I end up receiving it.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

Thanks man. If I'm out $700, so be it, but this is really disappointing if true. Not sure if I feel comfortable even taking it if I end up receiving it.

This could be some pro lifer who joined, looked around the site for years, brought some, either switched it with ghb instead of N and wanted your exact reaction. Or possibly faked an EC doc. Plus ordering from all 3 and trying to discredit them at once and they somehow go the "ghb" in a manufacturers bottle. I notified my friend at exit. He's just not active all the time. Every few weeks or so I hear from him. 4 days ago he said that everything was fine. Tests were coming back fine and everyone was getting their parcels. There hasn't been one bad test show up which could be proved.

 

[katesmith]

I guess this all begs the question, now, if anyone has recently/successful CTB with N from these sellers...

We won't ever know that answer lol

 

[Makko]

Just how much cash is this guy making? Maybe I should get in on this business.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

We won't ever know that answer lol

I know three. One in December, one March and one start of April. All from A. They are gone. Haven't been active since and would of messaged me if it didn't work.

 

[RedHarlequin]

I just emailed Energy Control asking if the results don't look edited to them.They mention on their website:

Can you send me someone else's results?​

We can only send test results to the person who sent the sample, for confidentiality reasons. If they want us to share their results with you, it has to be them to send us an email asking this.

But I hope they just can confirm if the report page itself is legit.

 

[katesmith]

I know three. One in December, one March and one start of April. All from A. They are gone. Haven't been active since and would of messaged me if it didn't work.

Oh ok, so All of this debate about N not being N is not true of you know people who have gone using it. I brought from D.

 

[HopelessFight]

Currently, we have one user who barely posted anything on this forum before claiming the N is actually GHB. He proved via PM that he indeed owns bottles of N. In addition, he shows us a report, which can be legit, but can also easily be fake/edited, or being a test report of another substance.

So for now, there is no conclusive prove this claim is true. If it is, surely more reports (probably at Exit forums) should show up over the next weeks/months. Until then, I wouldn't worry that much, because there is still one big issue with this claim: the bottles are sealed, so how would they have switched the substance?

While N is legal is Mexico, GHB surely isn't. As someone pointed out via PM to me, possession/sale of GHB isn't taken lightly over there, with prison sentences up to 20 years, so why would A/D risk that?

That being said, if the claim turns out to be true and the bottles contain a large amount of GHB, you will probably die as well, but I doubt it'd be as peaceful as N, and the report doesn't mention anything about the amount of GHB found in it. But yeah, it surely is possible users who used it never came back here.

For now, I wouldn't worry that much. Either the claim is true and we will see more reports of this over the next weeks/months, or we have someone coming here for fear mongering.

 

[katesmith]

Currently, we have one user who barely posted anything on this forum before claiming the N is actually GHB. He proved via PM that he indeed owns bottles of N. In addition, he shows us a report, which can be legit, but can also easily be fake/edited, or being a test report of another substance.

So for now, there is no conclusive prove this claim is true. If it is, surely more reports (probably at Exit forums) should show up over the next weeks/months. Until then, I wouldn't worry that much, because there is still one big issue with this claim: the bottles are sealed, so how would they have switched the substance?

While N is legal is Mexico, GHB surely isn't. As someone pointed out via PM to me, possession/sale of GHB isn't taken lightly over there, with prison sentences up to 20 years, so why would A/D risk that?

That being said, if the claim turns out to be true and the bottles contain a large amount of GHB, you will probably die as well, but I doubt it'd be as peaceful as N, and the report doesn't mention anything about the amount of GHB found in it. But yeah, it surely is possible users who used it never came back here.

For now, I wouldn't worry that much. Either the claim is true and we will see more reports of this over the next weeks/months, or we have someone coming here for fear mongering.

Thank you for clearing things up!
it gets so confusing reading everyones comments. You start to believe it's true!

 

[Thegoldenapples]

Currently, we have one user who barely posted anything on this forum before claiming the N is actually GHB. He proved via PM that he indeed owns bottles of N. In addition, he shows us a report, which can be legit, but can also easily be fake/edited, or being a test report of another substance.

So for now, there is no conclusive prove this claim is true. If it is, surely more reports (probably at Exit forums) should show up over the next weeks/months. Until then, I wouldn't worry that much, because there is still one big issue with this claim: the bottles are sealed, so how would they have switched the substance?

While N is legal is Mexico, GHB surely isn't. As someone pointed out via PM to me, possession/sale of GHB isn't taken lightly over there, with prison sentences up to 20 years, so why would A/D risk that?

That being said, if the claim turns out to be true and the bottles contain a large amount of GHB, you will probably die as well, but I doubt it'd be as peaceful as N, and the report doesn't mention anything about the amount of GHB found in it. But yeah, it surely is possible users who used it never came back here.

For now, I wouldn't worry that much. Either the claim is true and we will see more reports of this over the next weeks/months, or we have someone coming here for fear mongering.

Totally. The switching into bottles doesn't make sense and would seem like a massive effort. What I found weird as well is that the person claiming it was GHB didn't even seem mad/sad about it. Spent all that money/effort and was like "here are the results, here's a picture, okay bye, have fun with the head fcuk". No I'll get hold of A and D, I'll notify exit about what's wrong and send them test results. Nothing. Not to mentioned, it seemed it was the result for one sample, not 3 seperate tests. And the results I've seen in the past from EC had about 5 columns with different labels and numbers. Maybe it's changed, but giving out less info all of sudden doesn't seem right. Another dude on here who got his N from D this week I spoke with today, he has had GHB before and tasted his N, said it tasted like shit but wasn't GHB.

 

[HopelessFight]

Thank you for clearing things up!
it gets so confusing reading everyones comments. You start to believe it's true!

There's no proof he's lying, but no proof he's speaking the truth. Especially the changing of the bottles doesn't make sense in this story. When a user with only a few posts starts making very serious claims like these, I stay sceptictical until I see hard evidence. I don't rule out he might be speaking the truth, but for now I'm not that worried yet and would advice others not to panic or stress too much about this.

 

[katesmith]

Totally. The switching into bottles doesn't make sense and would seem like a massive effort. What I found weird as well is that the person claiming it was GHB didn't even seem mad/sad about it. Spent all that money/effort and was like "here are the results, here's a picture, okay bye, have fun with the head fcuk". No I'll get hold of A and D, I'll notify exit about what's wrong and send them test results. Nothing. Not to mentioned, it seemed it was the result for one sample, not 3 seperate tests. And the results I've seen in the past from EC had about 5 columns with different labels and numbers. Maybe it's changed, but giving out less info all of sudden doesn't seem right. Another dude on here who got his N from D this week I spoke with today, he has had GHB before and tasted his N, said it tasted like shit but wasn't GHB.

Ok that makes me feel better that about the guy you were speaking too who recently brought N from D. I don't even know what GHB is anyway

 

[Thiopentone31]

This story worries me a lot. I don't get why this user should lie to us. At the same time I can't get why A/D should bothered to change the liquid, sealing the bottles. Maybe also GHB/GBL is legal in Mexico and they are sold in similar bottle than N? I doubt, but...

 

[watchingthewheels]

This story worries me a lot. I don't get why this user should lie to us. At the same time I can't get why A/D should bothered to change the liquid, sealing the bottles. Maybe also GHB/GBL is legal in Mexico and they are sold in similar bottle than N? I doubt, but...

How many people here are suicidal BECAUSE of people who couldn't see why others should lie to them? A tale as old as time...
"Some people just want to watch the world burn." -THE DARK KNIGHT

 

[Twohorn]

I'm sorry to those who have been upset by my post about lab results, I was perhaps too forceful in my recommendation to avoid the Mexican sellers. The 'N' from C was shown to be paracetamol via a trip to A&E, with lab proof only obtained afterwards, so I hope you will understand why I was cautious about A and D despite positive reports.
I understand many people must have received real N from these sellers, otherwise they would not be endorsed by the PPH, nor can I offer an explanation as to why GBL would be decanted into what appear to be real N bottles.
I never had the intention of fearmongering; I only wanted to make my tests public because N is so expensive and thought people should have as much information as possible available before spending.

 

[alown]

I myself tested the N from D to a friend who studied at the university as a laboratory assistant and the result is legit, I opened a thread about this today here

 

[alown]

Yes, I was aware of the fake email addresses being circulated and checked carefully the names matched across multiple versions of the PPH I have access to. The orders were made in March.


I have attached one of the PDF reports from EC (the two are essentially the same). I hope this is helpful.

it's bullshit and your pdf is really badly edited

 

[Arnie]

Just opened the thread and don't know what to make of all this at the moment. Surely if these reports are true Exit members will catch on very soon, news will spread and it would be mentioned in the PPeH.

Not what I and many others need to be dealing with.

I myself tested the N from D to a friend who studied at the university as a laboratory assistant and the result is legit, I opened a thread about this today here

Thank you for posting this.

 

[Last chance]

I guess another explanation could be that sometimes the sellers send out the real deal and sometimes they don't. Maybe when they can't get hold of actual N they send something else so that they don't lose the sale ‍

 

[alown]

After having discussed with several people who received the same thing as me, and since the doubt persists, I think it is possible that D just like A send bottles of N and sometimes bottles containing something other than N.

Proverb then comes to mind "trust does not exclude control", it is quite possible that our Mexican sellers sometimes send something else, so I recommend everyone to have their own bottle tested to be sure, I don't 've tested only one bottle but I am thinking of having the second tested in order to be persuaded to obtain the same result, if an administrator could hang this comment somewhere it would then be important information for everyone.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

I'm sorry to those who have been upset by my post about lab results, I was perhaps too forceful in my recommendation to avoid the Mexican sellers. The 'N' from C was shown to be paracetamol via a trip to A&E, with lab proof only obtained afterwards, so I hope you will understand why I was cautious about A and D despite positive reports.
I understand many people must have received real N from these sellers, otherwise they would not be endorsed by the PPH, nor can I offer an explanation as to why GBL would be decanted into what appear to be real N bottles.
I never had the intention of fearmongering; I only wanted to make my tests public because N is so expensive and thought people should have as much information as possible available before spending.

Why haven't you contacted exit about your result? Do you not think it would be wise for them to know? A lady in this thread mentioned that you could contact EC and give them consent to send the result to another persons email. Would you do that to verify your report that a lot seem to think is fake?

 

[alown]

 

[RainAndSadness]

After having discussed with several people who received the same thing as me, and since the doubt persists, I think it is possible that D just like A send bottles of N and sometimes bottles containing something other than N.

Proverb then comes to mind "trust does not exclude control", it is quite possible that our Mexican sellers sometimes send something else, so I recommend everyone to have their own bottle tested to be sure, I don't 've tested only one bottle but I am thinking of having the second tested in order to be persuaded to obtain the same result, if an administrator could hang this comment somewhere it would then be important information for everyone.

As you noticed, the N comes in original veterinary bottles. Why would anyone go through the hassle and switch out the substance in that bottle (is that even possible without breaking it???) and deliver a false substance? That's like the least lucrative scam ever and I have full doubts about these test results that came back negative.

 

[alown]

As you noticed, the N comes in original veterinary bottles. Why would anyone go through the hassle and switch out the substance in that bottle (is that even possible without breaking it???) and deliver a false substance? That's like the least lucrative scam ever and I have full doubts about these test results that came back negative.

I tested only one bottle and not the second and the test indicates that it is positive and that it is pento vet so it is legit, I will test the second if in doubt.

I also contacted D with the screenshots above and he doesn't understand who started this rumor the bottles they are receiving are from a vet lab, I'm doing my best to reassure people here and it seems to me too absurd that the liquid is replaced by something else because the bottles are sealed, there is a rubber cap and a second metal stopper which cannot be closed afterwards since it has to be cut to open the bottle.

 

[katesmith]

I tested only one bottle and not the second and the test indicates that it is positive and that it is pento vet so it is legit, I will test the second if in doubt.

I also contacted D with the screenshots above and he doesn't understand who started this rumor the bottles they are receiving are from a vet lab, I'm doing my best to reassure people here and it seems to me too absurd that the liquid is replaced by something else because the bottles are sealed, there is a rubber cap and a second metal stopper which cannot be closed afterwards since it has to be cut to open the bottle.

Thank you for reassuring us! Appriciate this!

 

[Thegoldenapples]

I tested only one bottle and not the second and the test indicates that it is positive and that it is pento vet so it is legit, I will test the second if in doubt.

I also contacted D with the screenshots above and he doesn't understand who started this rumor the bottles they are receiving are from a vet lab, I'm doing my best to reassure people here and it seems to me too absurd that the liquid is replaced by something else because the bottles are sealed, there is a rubber cap and a second metal stopper which cannot be closed afterwards since it has to be cut to open the bottle.

I can almsot guarantee that @twohorned will not consent for energy control to email the "results" through to someone else so it can be verified that it came from them. Balls in their court. Will find out soon enough. Found an old EC report someone sent to me beginning of this year and and the results have a completely different format.

Edit: reloaded pic as the first cut off the amount of N from the test.