N from A Megathread 2

[HopelessFight]

As you noticed, the N comes in original veterinary bottles. Why would anyone go through the hassle and switch out the substance in that bottle (is that even possible without breaking it???) and deliver a false substance? That's like the least lucrative scam ever and I have full doubts about these test results that came back negative.

Indeed. And as someone told me in a PM, GHB is a highly illegal drug in Mexico, something you don't want to get caught with. It seems absurd to me that the substances in these sealed bottles are being replaced with an illegal drug as part as some scam scene.

 

[Twohorn]

@Thegoldenapples I have already requested EC send results to @RedHarlequin who asked this of me via PM.
I would like to know for what reason you suppose I would have fabricated all of my results, I have the same goal as most people here.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

@Thegoldenapples I have already requested EC send results to @RedHarlequin who asked this of me via PM.
I would like to know for what reason you suppose I would have fabricated all of my results, I have the same goal as most people here.

Ok. Can I send you my email and they get sent through to me as well please? I would appreciate that. It's the fact that they can be edited. The fact that they don't look like results I've seen. You're new. The way you don't even seem upset about. The fact you didn't contact exit about it and trying to get a different substance in manufacturerd bottles is beyond difficult. Lots of reasons.
Edit: I have pm you my email.

 

[Twohorn]

If the results come through to RedHarlequin you can request that they forward them to you. EC are sometimes slow in replying to emails so I would prefer not to make another request of them so quickly.
These results were certainly disappointing to me, but I have become somewhat numb to these things after several failed attempts to CTB.
I never really considered contacting Exit about this, since I don't meet their age requirement for membership. I would like to hear about it if any useful information about this came out of their forum.

 

[speck]

Maybe this is a reverse scam and twohorn is trying to get us all to privately give away more information in PMs so they can burn our source? Do not give away more info than is already available in the PPEH, because this whole thing stinks like a disinformation campaign.

 

[alown]

after many thoughts I think this rumor is really manufactured, the first thing is that GHB is very difficult to obtain in Mexico, but in addition it costs more than pentobarbital for a Mexican who can buy a bottle of N for 10 dollars, that's nonsense.

The report format does not match the format of an original report, and thirdly it is impossible to open the bottles without breaking them or cutting the metal seal that comes after the rubber cap, all of this is absurd and insane, I believes this rumor was created by a pro-lifer who wants to deter future buyers of N, no doubt one of the people who administer the official stop sanctioned suicide pages on Facebook.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

If the results come through to RedHarlequin you can request that they forward them to you. EC are sometimes slow in replying to emails so I would prefer not to make another request of them so quickly.
These results were certainly disappointing to me, but I have become somewhat numb to these things after several failed attempts to CTB.
I never really considered contacting Exit about this, since I don't meet their age requirement for membership. I would like to hear about it if any useful information about this came out of their forum.

I'm sure another request would be fine. They can email both of us. I'm not bothered by a slow response time. I don't know the other person at all and my trust levels at the moment are not so good. Exit would need to know about this if its true. It beyond me why you wouldn't of thought so. You don't need to be a member if such a test result turns up.

 

[Twohorn]

Alright. I have made an additional request for the results to be sent to the address you PM'd me. I have tried my best to accommodate any requests for proof or further details here, but still I am called a fraud or a 'pro-lifer', so you must understand I am quite fed up with it now.

 

[alown]

Alright. I have made an additional request for the results to be sent to the address you PM'd me. I have tried my best to accommodate any requests for proof or further details here, but still I am called a fraud or a 'pro-lifer', so you must understand I am quite fed up with it now.

I think you may very well have been able to send ghb on your own to the lab, telling them then that you thought it was pentobarbital. I think you incite misinformation.

The ghb in Mexico is almost nowhere to be found and is very expensive in this part of the world, A and D would make almost no profit or financial benefit from the prices they offer by selling online, a real bottle of N is costs them only 10 dollars.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

Alright. I have made an additional request for the results to be sent to the address you PM'd me. I have tried my best to accommodate any requests for proof or further details here, but still I am called a fraud or a 'pro-lifer', so you must understand I am quite fed up with it now.

Thank you. You need to undertand where we are coming from. If you were a long time trusted member, it would be different. Like @alown said you could of switched it. We don't know you so we don't trust you. It's also one test result for two samples and as for C powder being paracetamol, its never happened before either. So a triple banger thats never happened before to anyone but all happened to you at once. Whole thing just sounds super out there so clearly we have reservations.

 

[Sunset Limited]

As you noticed, the N comes in original veterinary bottles. Why would anyone go through the hassle and switch out the substance in that bottle (is that even possible without breaking it???) and deliver a false substance? That's like the least lucrative scam ever and I have full doubts about these test results that came back negative.

(is that even possible without breaking it???)

Yes it is with a syringe.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

(is that even possible without breaking it???)

Yes it is with a syringe.

Yeah but then you'd ruin the rubber with so many extractions.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Yeah but then you'd ruin the rubber with so many extractions.

In fact, it is enough to insert the needle once. Do not pull the needle. When the syringe is full, detach it from the needle.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

In fact, it is enough to insert the needle once. Do not pull the needle. When the syringe is full, detach it from the needle.

Yeah it still sounds pointless and time consuming to replace with a product they get easily with one they don't and would get in more trouble for. Plus find a way to replace the blue lid and seal on top of the rubber. I just can't see how they can unless they have access to a manufacturing facility and I don't think a place would pushed ghb through. All seems like a lot of effort. If A scams, he doesn't send and stops responding after payment. Same in the past with old D. Then they sold decanted N in smaller 60ml bottles but when tested, was still N.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Yeah it still sounds pointless and time consuming to replace with a product they get easily with one they don't and would get in more trouble for. Plus find a way to replace the blue lid and seal on top of the rubber. I just can't see how they can unless they have access to a manufacturing facility and I don't think a place would pushed ghb through. All seems like a lot of effort. If A scams, he doesn't send and stops responding after payment. Same in the past with old D. Then they sold decanted N in smaller 60ml bottles but when tested, was still N

Actually I just answered the question "is that even possible without breaking it???" I agree with you about that

 

[intr0verse]

Actually I just answered the question "is that even possible without breaking it???" I agree with you about that

You forgot the metal seal (which should cover the rubber stopper in its entirety, including the central part) beneath the plastic cap. You can't use a needle w/o breaking that.
Edit: or at least you'll se the metal seal punctured.

 

[RedHarlequin]

So as already mentioned here I asked @Twohorn to ask EC to send me the lab report directly. I will report once I receive the report.

 

[HopelessFight]

I'm pretty sure that report is legit (they just need to work on their IT skills) and you will receive that report by EC. The question is if they really tested the substance from these bottles or if @Twohorn just sent them a GHB sample.

I'm sceptical, but stay open for the possibility he's not lying. He proved to own four bottles of N, that's for sure. Requesting a test isn't cheap as well, although if you can afford ordering 4 bottles of N that shouldn't be an issue.

He also seems really convinced of his claim and is doing everything he can to prove he's telling the truth, although the reality is that, if he happens to speak the truth, hard prove simply can't be provided.

Still, things don't make sense. As mentioned multiple times, the bottles are sealed and resealing would be lots of trouble. In addition, GHB is highly illegal in Mexico and more expensive than N. That just doesn't make any sense at all. And then we have another user (who I trust more) who ordered around the same time, claiming he also tested his N with a positive result.

So I'm in doubt. I still believe the bottles they send out are real N, at least if they're originally sealed ones, but because someone, even a new user, can't provide hard proof, doesn't mean it's not true. But let's admit, his claim sounds very unlikely.

Personally, I'd wait it out for a bit. If his claim happens to be true after all, which I doubt but don't rule out, more reports should show up over the next weeks.

@Twohorn, if you do happen to speak the truth, my apologies for being so sceptical and feeling treated unfairly. When I just created a new account here I also had a claim about something else and I was not believed as well. I'm not even sure if I am now. People are very sceptical here because of pro-life infiltrators using very convincing tricks.

In the case you're here for fear mongering us: just fuck off.

 

[Sunset Limited]

You forgot the metal seal (which should cover the rubber stopper in its entirety, including the central part) beneath the plastic cap. You can't use a needle w/o breaking that.
Edit: or at least you'll se the metal seal punctured.

I think it's about my english. Maybe I'm wrong about "break"

 

[Taos]

Any update as to whether Exit has been informed?

 

[intr0verse]

I think it's about my english. Maybe I'm wrong about "break"

Don't worry, english is not my native language neither but i suppose you understand what i meant.

 

[ihsdpm]

I ordered from D on Wednesday and already received the package! Incredible. I never expected it to be this easy to obtain. I've been reading about N since I joined this forum back in June of 2020 and always thought it would remain out of reach for me.

Hopefully, I never will have to use it, but it's a relief to know that it's here in case things become unbearable for me.

Looking forward to updates from Exit about this, but for now, I'm happy since I had just written this off as a $700 loss.

 

[katesmith]

Does anyone know how to access the videos that are on the pph handbook? When i try and click on them nothing happens

 

[Thegoldenapples]

Any update as to whether Exit has been informed?

Need to verify it came from EC and even then, we don't even know if it's true. Could have been swapped. The person claiming this should notify exit. They should have notified them and us when they "found" C's N to be paracetamol in the first place and showed results but they didn't. Entire thing just doesn't add up. I'll update in a few weeks once I hear back from exit member if they are experiencing something similar.

 

[RedHarlequin]

I saw that @alown was in contact with D, thanks! Has anyone spoken to A yet?

 

[Taos]

@Meditation guide claimed back in 2020 that Energy Control is unreliable. see post...

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/nembutal-from-mexico.56238/page-2#post-1054267

as did: @forevernonescaped https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-from-d.61073/#post-1181466

@Twohorn are you planning to retest via another company or Exit's kits?

 

[Phoenix]

Is A replying on his Ctemplar email? I emailed weeks ago and no response

 

[Taos]

@RainAndSadness "a person I know from the UK also had a visit by law enforcement"

what happened?

 

[RedHarlequin]

Is A replying on his Ctemplar email? I emailed weeks ago and no response

I emailed him weeks ago too, wanted to buy some more bottles just in case it somehow failed but never heard from him.

 

[alown]

I have a friend who drank the N she received from D recently and she is no longer among us, peace to her soul, I am troubled because I thought I received a farewell message ...

I emailed him weeks ago too, wanted to buy some more bottles just in case it somehow failed but never heard from him.

A is awful to answer messages unlike D who gives an answer 30 minutes after writing to him