Method My trial with argon..am confident now

[open skyes]

how I will do it:
Put the bag on my head [seat over ears]
squeeze the air out of it,
open the gas valve,
fill it quickly with gas [watch the progress in the mirror]
when its full - pull the bag down my head
and close it tightly on my neck.

The constant gas pressure in the bag will not allow any new air into the bag: as long as the bag is air tight and it's tightened well on my neck
So if I can keep my bag O2 free for 20 minutes I will not fail.
I spend a lot of time finding proper bag - in terms of size and thickness]

So that means 20 ×15 PM. Do you thing 300 liters of gas is enough to ctb @crova
Can you please tell me the minimum quantity of gas required to ctb

 

[invisiblycrippled]

So that means 20 ×15 PM. Do you thing 300 liters of gas is enough to ctb @crova
Can you please tell me the minimum quantity of gas required to ctb

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-trial-with-argon-am-confident-now.6307/#post-106504

And this is how you calculate the minutes you have with a certain flow and bottle size:

P = pressure in bar
C = compressed volume in liters
F = desired flow rate in liters/min (standard is 15)
t = time span in minutes the desired flow rate can be provided

P * C / F = t

20 minutes of 15l/min flow should be enough, but even the smallest container I could find (2l@200bar) is more than enough.

 

[open skyes]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-trial-with-argon-am-confident-now.6307/#post-106504

And this is how you calculate the minutes you have with a certain flow and bottle size:

P = pressure in bar
C = compressed volume in liters
F = desired flow rate in liters/min (standard is 15)
t = time span in minutes the desired flow rate can be provided

P * C / F = t

20 minutes of 15l/min flow should be enough, but even the smallest container I could find (2l@200bar) is more than enough.

Am really not good with calculation ... what is 200 bar is 200 liters ??

Sorry if I sound dumb :(

 

[invisiblycrippled]

Am really not good with calculation ... what is 200 bar is 200 liters ??

Sorry if I sound dumb :(

Send me the link to the bottle you are considering to buy, please. I'll have a look and calculate it for you.

 

[open skyes]

Send me the link to the bottle you are considering to buy, please. I'll have a look and calculate it for you.

Will PM you

 

[Arak]

@deathoverlife ,

That's a lot of argon. It looks like the most I can get locally is 20 litres. I'm not even sure if I get this from Industrial suppliers although that one 20 litre offer seems doable. I'd have to check. I'm somewhere in Europe.

Would you mind sharing how you actually got it ? And I know you don't want to give away your location, but possibly the continent you're located in ?

 

[Limbo]

@deathoverlife ,

That's a lot of argon. It looks like the most I can get locally is 20 litres. I'm not even sure if I get this from Industrial suppliers although that one 20 litre offer seems doable. I'd have to check. I'm somewhere in Europe.

Would you mind sharing how you actually got it ? And I know you don't want to give away your location, but possibly the continent you're located in ?

20 litres is in water not gas! Thats more like 5000 litres.

 

[Arak]

@Limbo , you mean liquid form rather than gas. (?) If you're correct, that would be about 5 m3.Not trying to be difficult, do you have soemthing like a source for that ? Liquid gas in litres (probably varies on gas/pressure)

Anyway, one specific offer CAS-7440-37-1 contains toxic substances, so if it won't kill it may harm (?)

Molecular weight 39,95 g/mol. I can try doing some calculations later, this stuff is not something I'm good at (physics). One would need to release it somehow, some tool ?

Again, I don't know if I could actually get that. Any comments on argon vs helium or nitrogen ?

 

[Limbo]

@Limbo , you mean liquid form rather than gas. (?) If you're correct, that would be about 5 m3.Not trying to be difficult, do you have soemthing like a source for that ? Liquid gas in litres (probably varies on gas/pressure)

Anyway, one specific offer CAS-7440-37-1 contains toxic substances, so if it won't kill it may harm (?)

Molecular weight 39,95 g/mol. I can try doing some calculations later, this stuff is not something I'm good at (physics). One would need to release it somehow, some tool ?

Again, I don't know if I could actually get that. Any comments on argon vs helium or nitrogen ?

Many tanks are mesured in litres, but in terms of water capacity.

 

[invisiblycrippled]

Many tanks are mesured in litres, but in terms of water capacity.

Liters are volumetric, so are the same whatever the content. And when you know the pressure, you can easily calculate the volume at atmospheric pressure, so not sure what you're getting at?

 

[Limbo]

Liters are volumetric, so are the same whatever the content. And when you know the pressure, you can easily calculate the volume at atmospheric pressure, so not sure what you're getting at?

What Im getting at is what confused me at first. Not everyone has a degree in chemistry. The exit book recommends 15 litres per minute, so when a tank is labled 10 litres, its a bit confusing. Maybe I understood him wrong and hes not confused.

 

[invisiblycrippled]

What Im getting at is what confused me at first. Not everyone has a degree in chemistry. The exit book recommends 15 litres per minute, so when a tank is labled 10 litres, its a bit confusing. Maybe I understood him wrong and hes not confused.

Oh, yeah, sorry that is confusing.

So those 10 liters are the compressed volume.
Now you have to find out what's the pressure. Standards are 200 and 300 bar from what I gathered.
To calculate the volume at atmospheric pressure (1 bar) you simply multiply the compressed volume by the pressure, so for example 10×200=2000. 2000/15=133.33 minutes of continuous flow at 15l/min.

 

[open skyes]

How lone will it take for a person to die when exit has method is used

 

[crova]

@deathoverlife ,

That's a lot of argon. It looks like the most I can get locally is 20 litres. I'm not even sure if I get this from Industrial suppliers although that one 20 litre offer seems doable. I'd have to check. I'm somewhere in Europe.

Would you mind sharing how you actually got it ? And I know you don't want to give away your location, but possibly the continent you're located in ?

Im afraid deathoverlife wont answer you. She did it.

If it helps I have 8 l tank of nitrogen I bought from Ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_....H0.Xnitrogen.TRS0&_nkw=nitrogen+gas&_sacat=0
but I now noticed this seller has argon too!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...A0.H0.Xargon+gas.TRS0&_nkw=argon+gas&_sacat=0

 

[Deafsn0w]

Is deathoverlife dead?

 

[crova]

How lone will it take for a person to die when exit has method is used

You should lose consciousness in seconds and should be gone in less then 20min possibly much faster, but the book says you will be gone in 25 min peacefully.
Definitely you need to read chapter 5 from the PPeH, I cannot find the ling to download now, but its somewhere in this thread or another recent about argon.

 

[crova]

Is deathoverlife dead?

She said good bye two days ago

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/bye-every-one-couple-of-hours-to-go-and-am-done.6450/

 

[Deafsn0w]

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How lone will it take for a person to die when exit has method is used

You can download this PPeH.
https://mega.nz/#!fSYl3Q4a!phzKwY4ZSu01W_qkK7xe7ZRUy7sbEwvDOE_mPR7Svsc