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areyousafe??

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What do you think of my SN proctocol, do you see any issues with it?

Day 1
- 3 x 10mg Metoclopramide, taken 8 hours apart

Day 2
- 1 hour before SN, 600mg Ibuprofen
- 40 minutes prior to SN, 30mg Metoclopramide
- In the meantime, prepare 3 SN drinks in case I throw up.
- 5 minutes prior to SN, crush 50mg Valium, mix with water.
- Send delayed message to authorities scheduled for 6 hours later, for someone who won't be traumatised to come and collect me.
- Take my SN (from dmc, will not be testing) - 25g in 50-100 ml water.
- Then immediately lay down in bed and die
- I will be fasting for 8 hours, withdrawing liquids 2 hours prior to SN.

My concern is with the Valium. I only have 50mg, is this sufficient because in the pph a lot more is recommended?

I have never taken any kind of benzo before, is waiting 5 minutes too long a time to wait before drinking my SN?

I know it's recommended to test your benzos, but I only have 50mg and don't want to waste it by testing.

I am trying to make my plan as simple as possible so will not be using any other supplementary meds.
 
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No major issues, looks well-planned out.
My concern is with the Valium. I only have 50mg, is this sufficient because in the pph a lot more is recommended?
The ppeh recommends 500 mg Diazepam, quite frankly it's overkill, any amount of benzo helps. If you want to maximize the effect, adjust timing earlier or later depending on the dose, with the amount of you have, I would take it 10 mins earlier, the chances of a blackout is slim, but I may be mistaken because every body reacts differently. If you want to be extremely safe, stick to the protocol you have, simple gets the job done. Hope you find everything you're looking for OP.
 
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No major issues, looks well-planned out.

The ppeh recommends 500 mg Diazepam, quite frankly it's overkill, any amount of benzo helps. If you want to maximize the effect, adjust timing earlier or later depending on the dose, with the amount of you have, I would take it 10 mins earlier, the chances of a blackout is slim, but I may be mistaken because every body reacts differently. If you want to be extremely safe, stick to the protocol you have, simple gets the job done. Hope you find everything you're looking for OP.
Thanks for your response. Is Diazepam the same thing as Valium? Also for the 48 hour protocol, are they assuming people will fast for the entire 48 hours? I certainly can't do a 48 hour fast, so should I follow the 48 hour regimen but do a 8 hour fast instead?
 
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Is Diazepam the same thing as Valium?
Yes, Valium is the brand name for Diazepam.
are they assuming people will fast for the entire 48 hours? I certainly can't do a 48 hour fast, so should I follow the 48 hour regimen but do a 8 hour fast instead?
Nope, 48 hour fasting is not recommended, not even 24 hours, stick to 8-12 hour fast and you're good.
 
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They are one of the same or two different things, and have searched on the sites I know where to get them and one has a classified use of the diazepam background, valium, also called libervant, and the other another form of the benzo, valium, but to get pure diazepam get valium which is the other name for it or straight up diazepam with the name stated as such

Is Diazepam the same thing as Valium?

And like @APeacefulPlace said (the brand) :))
Will be different if you find though some place else 😅
 
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They are one of the same or two different things, and have searched on the sites I know where to get them and one has a classified use of the diazepam background, valium, also called libervant, and the other another form of the benzo, valium, but to get pure diazepam get valium which is the other name for it or straight up diazepam with the name stated as such



And like @APeacefulPlace said (the brand) :))
Will be different if you find though some place else 😅
I noticed your title is written in Chinese. Are you from a Chinese background?
 
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Jan 6, 2025
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I noticed your title is written in Chinese. Are you from a Chinese background?
Ah, forgive me… I didn't see this and it just says on notifications that it's just related to thread 🙃
Hehehe I am not, but I will be in another life. I just love Chinese culture way too much (healthy obsession) and relate to it since I was young… Can't explain why. My biography basically says freedom isnt far gone until you are free and for me, it's death.
Oh, but I am very much alive through the culture, if that makes sense and don't relate to my birth culture, and I truly respect cultures but this world fucking confuses me sometimes and just put up with it's abuse. This doesn't mean I disregard human experience (anyone who did came from China and place them on high pedestal than the other who does — sadly aware of these types of people and wouldn't want to meet anyone of any culture, just people realistically on here) as I know all are terrible regardless of whichever experience anyone came from and most people suck in this world besides the one here who have much more respect and experience of their traumas 🙃
 
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Ah, forgive me… I didn't see this and it just says on notifications that it's just related to thread 🙃
Hehehe I am not, but I will be in another life. I just love Chinese culture way too much (healthy obsession) and relate to it since I was young… Can't explain why. My biography basically says freedom isnt far gone until you are free and for me, it's death.
Oh, but I am very much alive through the culture, if that makes sense and don't relate to my birth culture, and I truly respect cultures but this world fucking confuses me sometimes and just put up with it's abuse. This doesn't mean I disregard human experience (anyone who did came from China and place them on high pedestal than the other who does — sadly aware of these types of people and wouldn't want to meet anyone of any culture, just people realistically on here) as I know all are terrible regardless of whichever experience anyone came from and most people suck in this world besides the one here who have much more respect and experience of their traumas 🙃
I'm Chinese but grew up in a Western country. I can't read Chinese (despite being forced to attend Chinese school on Sundays) so I had to use Google translate 😅
 
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I'm Chinese but grew up in a Western country. I can't read Chinese (despite being forced to attend Chinese school on Sundays) so I had to use Google translate 😅
Oh gosh, forgive me if I am endangering your birth culture. I truly wish not to :ahhha:
And that's okay. I barely know how to speak my birth culture and my enunciations and voice just don't match, and I just can't care anymore to pretend.
Lol 😂
I grew up American too, despite being Nigerian. I don't think my personality would've changed if I wasn't as Westernized lol
 
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Oh gosh, forgive me if I am endangering your birth culture. I truly wish not to :ahhha:
And that's okay. I barely know how to speak my birth culture and my enunciations and voice just don't match, and I just can't care anymore to pretend.
Lol 😂
I grew up American too, despite being Nigerian. I don't think my personality would've changed if I wasn't as Westernized lol
I can understand Chinese, speak broken Chinese, but cannot read despite attending Chinese school. I grew up in Australia, immigrated here when I was 6 years old. I much prefer Western culture.
 
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I can understand Chinese, speak broken Chinese, but cannot read despite attending Chinese school. I grew up in Australia, immigrated here when I was 6 years old. I much prefer Western culture.
I don't know if you saw my message///
Embracing but okay then. And that's nice! For me, I just want out of this trashy wasteland of a world, and I can agree in some point yeah. How's the experience like (PLS PM me... this isn't for being too open on this thread)
 
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Yes, Valium is the brand name for Diazepam.

Nope, 48 hour fasting is not recommended, not even 24 hours, stick to 8-12 hour fast and you're good.
By recommended you mean by the ppeh? That's basically a website where you have to be a certain age and pay a membership fee to gain access right?
 
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Dec 2, 2024
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By recommended you mean by the ppeh? That's basically a website where you have to be a certain age and pay a membership fee to gain access right?
Yes, ppeh recommends 8 hours minimum.
 
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How do you mix it like normal cup normal spoon normal water?
Unsure what you mean exactly by normal, but any cup that can hold 100 ml of water would work. I would suggest using a bottle instead because it's easier to mix by shaking it well till dissolved and requires no spoon. If you only have a cup, then use the spoon to stir well till dissolved, also purified water will be better than spring water, but won't make much of a difference. Hope I answered your question.
 
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howunfortunateforme

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Oct 2, 2024
447
Unsure what you mean exactly by normal, but any cup that can hold 100 ml of water would work. I would suggest using a bottle instead because it's easier to mix by shaking it well till dissolved and requires no spoon. If you only have a cup, then use the spoon to stir well till dissolved, also purified water will be better than spring water, but won't make much of a difference. Hope I answered your question.
Thank you what do you mean purified water? Like bottled water? Or Can i use my fridge water?
 
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Dec 2, 2024
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Thank you what do you mean purified water? Like bottled water? Or Can i use my fridge water?
Fridge water is fine, it also goes through purification via filters from your fridge. I suggested bottled water as a way to dissolve SN well but you can purchase different types of bottled waters, ie. spring water, purified etc.
 
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howunfortunateforme

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Oct 2, 2024
447
Fridge water is fine, it also goes through purification via filters from your fridge. I suggested bottled water as a way to dissolve SN well but you can purchase different types of bottled waters, ie. spring water, purified etc.
Does the temperature of water matter? Sorry so many questions
 
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APeacefulPlace

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Dec 2, 2024
298
Does the temperature of water matter? Sorry so many questions
No worries, room and luke warm water is good. Stick to what's recommended in the protocol, this thread may answer all the possible questions you may have for SN.
 
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howunfortunateforme

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Oct 2, 2024
447
Sorry last question im partially brain damaged from meds so have a hard time…do you just take it out of package with spoon it's like rock hard heard you're not suooosed to touch it. Measure on scale then add to water and mix?
 
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NitrogenAfternoon

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Jan 20, 2025
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Sorry last question im partially brain damaged from meds so have a hard time…do you just take it out of package with spoon it's like rock hard heard you're not suooosed to touch it. Measure on scale then add to water and mix?
Good question and wondering if we can get an answer here. The SN is brick like and I cannot open it until it is time to CTB. Do we just measure it as is and let it dissolve in the water? And how are mixing it? With plastic spoon and glass cups with bottled water?
 
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howunfortunateforme

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Oct 2, 2024
447
Good question and wondering if we can get an answer here. The SN is brick like and I cannot open it until it is time to CTB. Do we just measure it as is and let it dissolve in the water? And how are mixing it? With plastic spoon and glass cups with bottled water?
Need to know tbis as well
 

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