Discussion My plan

[whereisyourheadat]

hey everyone , this is my first post

I plan to ctb within the next year or two (depression and loneliness) im still giving myself some time for things to get better, getting everything I need, and getting all my affairs in order.

I plan to use a gun in a national park/remote area (hopeful that no one will find my body atleast immediately) only problem is Im not yet of legal age to buy one in my state but people seem to obtain guns despite not being of age all the time in the US so it shouldn't be too hard.

 

[MetallicCognition]

>Im not yet of legal age

I really encourage you to wait until you are of legal age when you make your final decision. I support adults' right to decide whether they live or die, but if you're under 18 you really should give it time until you're an adult. It sounds like that's part of your plan anyway, which I respect. If you do commit, it should be a fully informed and thought-through decision. Please don't do anything impulsive.

That aside, consider that it would be quite traumatic for someone to come across your body: you may or may not care about this but I'd hope you take it into consideration. If you're in the middle of nowhere, make sure you hike for a long while away from any walking paths or roads - others will also hike off-path so if you're anywhere near somewhere people go you're likely to be found at some point. If you're in a large national park there's a good chance your body would be taken care of by animals and bacteria long before it's found by other people, meaning you'd effectively be lost and never found.

If you do use a gun, make sure it's only loaded with one bullet; don't leave a loaded gun next to your body as that could be a danger to people or animals. However, shooting yourself is a high risk method so do consider other methods too. If you must shoot yourself, research exactly where and how to do it correctly. If you shoot the wrong place you could fail, and leave yourself in horrific pain for hours or days before finally dying.

 

[darksouls]

hello and welcome to sasu
I am very sorry for your suffering
hopefully you have a good time in our community until your exit

 

[whereisyourheadat]

>Im not yet of legal age

I really encourage you to wait until you are of legal age when you make your final decision. I support adults' right to decide whether they live or die, but if you're under 18 you really should give it time until you're an adult. It sounds like that's part of your plan anyway, which I respect. If you do commit, it should be a fully informed and thought-through decision. Please don't do anything impulsive.

That aside, consider that it would be quite traumatic for someone to come across your body: you may or may not care about this but I'd hope you take it into consideration. If you're in the middle of nowhere, make sure you hike for a long while away from any walking paths or roads - others will also hike off-path so if you're anywhere near somewhere people go you're likely to be found at some point. If you're in a large national park there's a good chance your body would be taken care of by animals and bacteria long before it's found by other people, meaning you'd effectively be lost and never found.

If you do use a gun, make sure it's only loaded with one bullet; don't leave a loaded gun next to your body as that could be a danger to people or animals. However, shooting yourself is a high risk method so do consider other methods too. If you must shoot yourself, research exactly where and how to do it correctly. If you shoot the wrong place you could fail, and leave yourself in horrific pain for hours or days before finally dying.

Thanks Im 18 right now but I have to be 21 to by a hand gun in my state and not being found is my intent Ill def be doing more research on how to do it correctly

 

[Foxcompany2nd3rd]

DO NOT USE A GUN! high chance of failure and you'll die slowly bleeding to death in a lot of pain or found and be horrifically deformed and likely a vegetable trapped in your own body. If you do use a gun, at least put a slipknot rope around your neck to make sure that if you fail the rope finishes you off quickly. I still do not recommend a gun.

 

[FadingSnowFake]

Hello and welcome, I'm glad you joined our caring community and that you are also allowing yourself time. You are not alone here, sending you a welcome hug and wish you all the best.

 

[FuneralCry]

I wish you the best in plans.

 

[GhostInTheMachine]

hey everyone , this is my first post

I plan to ctb within the next year or two (depression and loneliness) im still giving myself some time for things to get better, getting everything I need, and getting all my affairs in order.

I plan to use a gun in a national park/remote area (hopeful that no one will find my body atleast immediately) only problem is Im not yet of legal age to buy one in my state but people seem to obtain guns despite not being of age all the time in the US so it shouldn't be too hard.

Hello, and sorry you've had to come here. You and I share the same plan, although I do have a Plan B if I can't afford a gun anytime soon. Buying a gun below legal age for it means finding a criminal source, or being gifted one. The former is risky for obvious reasons, the latter also might be a risk.

DO NOT USE A GUN! high chance of failure and you'll die slowly bleeding to death in a lot of pain or found and be horrifically deformed and likely a vegetable trapped in your own body. If you do use a gun, at least put a slipknot rope around your neck to make sure that if you fail the rope finishes you off quickly. I still do not recommend a gun.

This is nonsense, firearms are by far the most effective way to CTB, with one of, if not the lowest rates of survival. We're talking a near 100% fatality rate compared to barely 50% with poisons.

 

[alwaysalone]

DO NOT USE A GUN! high chance of failure and you'll die slowly bleeding to death in a lot of pain or found and be horrifically deformed and likely a vegetable trapped in your own body. If you do use a gun, at least put a slipknot rope around your neck to make sure that if you fail the rope finishes you off quickly. I still do not recommend a gun.

Umm..... this is completely false. Why are you lying?

hey everyone , this is my first post

I plan to ctb within the next year or two (depression and loneliness) im still giving myself some time for things to get better, getting everything I need, and getting all my affairs in order.

I plan to use a gun in a national park/remote area (hopeful that no one will find my body atleast immediately) only problem is Im not yet of legal age to buy one in my state but people seem to obtain guns despite not being of age all the time in the US so it shouldn't be too hard.

If you're in the U.S. you can get a long gun at 18. Some stores (walmart etc...) choose to sell to 21 and above but legally it's 18. If you truly don't want anyone to find your body, high bear, wolf or other scavenger areas are best. Usually summertime when they're all awake and looking for food.

 

[Foxcompany2nd3rd]

I consider a 10% chance of failure as a high chance. 90% of gun related suicides succeed, but the other 10% bungle it up. If its not a 100% chance then its not worth it imo. Ive seen a man blow off his entire face and live through the shotgun blast severely disfigured. Ive seen another man lose 50% of his brain having survive a gun blast to the head. Ive seen a man screw up the placement of his shot while placing the barrel of his rifle under his chin and slowly bleed to death choking on his blood. Temple shots are not 100% kills either, Ive seen a man do a temple shot himself with a pistol and the medical examiner said he lived for another few hours while paralyzed slowly bleeding to death. Because Ive been suicidal for most of my life Ive spent a lot of time and research on the matter and have watched thousands upon thousands of suicide deaths to prepare for my eventual day. A lot of the guys/gals here seem rather young and most seem to even avoid the darker more gory aspects of this subject so they're ignorant of all the darker sides of it.

I personally intent to suffer as little as possible when I CTB. IMO I think anyone that decides to go the route of a gun is a glutton for punishment, haven't you already suffered enough?. Its like the guys that attempt suicide by jumping off feet first off a two-story house only to break their legs and their backs, that's not nearly high enough buddy.

IMO Hanging/full suspension is the safer method, as its 100% successful if you do it right. The only reason it fails so often is because people are scared and do partial suspensions with their feet on the ground and often stop it. But at least it doesn't leave you severely disfigured if you bungle it up or slowly dying for an hour.

While we do not fully agree on this matter, it's not a lie, and I don't appreciate being called a liar. But there are a lot of people here with mental health issues and I myself have severe autism and I often say things that are offensive and inappropriate so I will forgive you.

 

[naookoo128]

IMO Hanging/full suspension is the safer method, as its 100% successful if you do it right.

I mean yea... if you do it right all these horror scenarios you mentioned would not happen, right? Sorry that you had to see such stuff.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

Welcome to SaSu I'm sorry you are in so much pain.
I hope things start to go well for you so that you don't have to resort to the sad decision. Please be kind of yourself, interact with us if you want, and feel supported in this community.
As for the firearm method, shotguns are a better choice. If you prefer handguns, read this resource and learn what revolver and ammunition you should choose.

 

[cookiencream]

I consider a 10% chance of failure as a high chance. 90% of gun related suicides succeed, but the other 10% bungle it up. If its not a 100% chance then its not worth it imo. Ive seen a man blow off his entire face and live through the shotgun blast severely disfigured. Ive seen another man lose 50% of his brain having survive a gun blast to the head. Ive seen a man screw up the placement of his shot while placing the barrel of his rifle under his chin and slowly bleed to death choking on his blood. Temple shots are not 100% kills either, Ive seen a man do a temple shot himself with a pistol and the medical examiner said he lived for another few hours while paralyzed slowly bleeding to death. Because Ive been suicidal for most of my life Ive spent a lot of time and research on the matter and have watched thousands upon thousands of suicide deaths to prepare for my eventual day. A lot of the guys/gals here seem rather young and most seem to even avoid the darker more gory aspects of this subject so they're ignorant of all the darker sides of it.

I personally intent to suffer as little as possible when I CTB. IMO I think anyone that decides to go the route of a gun is a glutton for punishment, haven't you already suffered enough?. Its like the guys that attempt suicide by jumping off feet first off a two-story house only to break their legs and their backs, that's not nearly high enough buddy.

IMO Hanging/full suspension is the safer method, as its 100% successful if you do it right. The only reason it fails so often is because people are scared and do partial suspensions with their feet on the ground and often stop it. But at least it doesn't leave you severely disfigured if you bungle it up or slowly dying for an hour.

While we do not fully agree on this matter, it's not a lie, and I don't appreciate being called a liar. But there are a lot of people here with mental health issues and I myself have severe autism and I often say things that are offensive and inappropriate so I will forgive you.

I'm doing partial because I can't get a rope to hold me, nor do I have a high enough anchor.....

 

[whereisyourheadat]

I personally intent to suffer as little as possible when I CTB. IMO I think anyone that decides to go the route of a gun is a glutton for punishment, haven't you already suffered enough?. Its like the guys that attempt suicide by jumping off feet first off a two-story house only to break their legs and their backs, that's not nearly high enough buddy.

I've heard of partial suspension and I know it's pretty quick but Ive always liked the gun method more because it instant if you do it right and you have no time to think about it, but im still open to other options

 

[GhostInTheMachine]

I consider a 10% chance of failure as a high chance. 90% of gun related suicides succeed, but the other 10% bungle it up. If its not a 100% chance then its not worth it imo. Ive seen a man blow off his entire face and live through the shotgun blast severely disfigured. Ive seen another man lose 50% of his brain having survive a gun blast to the head. Ive seen a man screw up the placement of his shot while placing the barrel of his rifle under his chin and slowly bleed to death choking on his blood. Temple shots are not 100% kills either, Ive seen a man do a temple shot himself with a pistol and the medical examiner said he lived for another few hours while paralyzed slowly bleeding to death. Because Ive been suicidal for most of my life Ive spent a lot of time and research on the matter and have watched thousands upon thousands of suicide deaths to prepare for my eventual day. A lot of the guys/gals here seem rather young and most seem to even avoid the darker more gory aspects of this subject so they're ignorant of all the darker sides of it.

I personally intent to suffer as little as possible when I CTB. IMO I think anyone that decides to go the route of a gun is a glutton for punishment, haven't you already suffered enough?. Its like the guys that attempt suicide by jumping off feet first off a two-story house only to break their legs and their backs, that's not nearly high enough buddy.

IMO Hanging/full suspension is the safer method, as its 100% successful if you do it right. The only reason it fails so often is because people are scared and do partial suspensions with their feet on the ground and often stop it. But at least it doesn't leave you severely disfigured if you bungle it up or slowly dying for an hour.

While we do not fully agree on this matter, it's not a lie, and I don't appreciate being called a liar. But there are a lot of people here with mental health issues and I myself have severe autism and I often say things that are offensive and inappropriate so I will forgive you.

This is so disingenuous, hanging has a lower success rate than firearms at just above 80% compared to firearms being around 90%. You can't just point at the horror stories of one method, and ignore the horror stories of another because you didn't like the aftermath of one. Every method is 100% successful if you do it "correctly", but barely over 10% of people who commit suicide actually succeed. Having your face blasted off vs suffering a snapped neck for hours is so subjective in which is worse. You were absolutely lying when you said "firearms have a high chance of failure", and then you proceeded to suggest a method with an even higher chance of failure with the advice of "Just do it right bro".

 

[Daphne]

According to statistics, that method has the highest completion rate. Guess we should be thankful we have this option; most people in the world don't. It's still hard though. I'd rather go out the peaceful pill way.

 

[Foxcompany2nd3rd]

This is so disingenuous, hanging has a lower success rate than firearms at just above 80% compared to firearms being around 90%. You can't just point at the horror stories of one method, and ignore the horror stories of another because you didn't like the aftermath of one. Every method is 100% successful if you do it "correctly", but barely over 10% of people who commit suicide actually succeed. Having your face blasted off vs suffering a snapped neck for hours is so subjective in which is worse. You were absolutely lying when you said "firearms have a high chance of failure", and then you proceeded to suggest a method with an even higher chance of failure with the advice of "Just do it right bro".

I believe this is a personality clash moment. This happens a lot to me due to my cursed autism. The world often dog piles onto me for this reason. I often clash and disagree with neurotypical people due to the way I think and act. Probably why I have 3 reddit permabans, the neurotypicals disagree with me so much that they always gather together and mass ban me; or exile me from their circle's aka coworkers. Im just wired differently and think about things in the strangest ways. I think we're just interpreting the same data through different lenses. My concern was specifically about the consequences of failure (disfigurement, prolonged suffering, etc.), while its nearly impossible to 'snap your neck' in full suspension and dangle there suffering for hours like if you screw up a shot placement on your head. In full suspension you normall go out in less than 10 seconds.

You're a neurotypical I take it. So let us agree to disagree.
AKA TL;DR - The consequences of pulling out of a full suspension or bungling it up is just a sore neck or you may cause an air choke and suffer from a suffocation death instead of a quick and easy blood choke death, but the consequences of screwing up a gun suicide is absolutely horrific.

 

[GhostInTheMachine]

I believe this is a personality clash moment. This happens a lot to me due to my cursed autism. The world often dog piles onto me for this reason. I often clash and disagree with neurotypical people due to the way I think and act. Probably why I have 3 reddit permabans, the neurotypicals disagree with me so much that they always gather together and mass ban me; or exile me from their circle's aka coworkers. Im just wired differently and think about things in the strangest ways. I think we're just interpreting the same data through different lenses. My concern was specifically about the consequences of failure (disfigurement, prolonged suffering, etc.), while its nearly impossible to 'snap your neck' in full suspension and dangle there suffering for hours like if you screw up a shot placement on your head. In full suspension you normall go out in less than 10 seconds.

You're a neurotypical I take it. So let us agree to disagree.
AKA TL;DR - The consequences of pulling out of a full suspension or bungling it up is just a sore neck or you may cause an air choke and suffer from a suffocation death instead of a quick and easy blood choke death, but the consequences of screwing up a gun suicide is absolutely horrific.

I'm sorry but this is not just a "agree to disagree" moment, you are outright spreading misinformation. Neck and spinal damage is common with failed hangings and neither of those are exactly painless or easy to deal with after. We're talking possible paralysis and often severe pain here. Yes, a failed firearm attempt is very gruesome, but people survive these much less often. Both are horrific, but they are just different types of horror. You are outright trying to paint hanging as some kind of "clean" and foolproof method, that even when it goes wrong, will not result in an equivalent suffering to a failed firearm attempt. That is extremely selective bias and using autism as shield to deflect this criticism is frankly offensive.

 

[Foxcompany2nd3rd]

This typically happens in a neurotypical and neurodivergent clash. The neurotypical will always dismisses the neurodivergent; happens to me daily. You're playing a zero-sum game, please have the last word, you deserve it.