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Moral Injury
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Is anyone else morally injured from all the things you've witnessed on this planet, things you've done, and things that have happened to you. Like none of this shit sits right with my soul, if there is such a thing.
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Yeah. I dont know how people can do like awful things and sleep without problems while i blame myself for every stupid mistake i made and struggle to forgive myself
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Cruelty has a Human Heart
And Jealousy a Human Face
Terror the Human Form Divine
And Secrecy, the Human Dress
-William Blake
I used to not understand why so much evil existed, but nature itself makes us clash with each other. However, this is taken to the extreme by human greed, where a few have a lot and suck as much as possible from others, creating competition and systemic violence.
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Cruelty has a Human Heart
And Jealousy a Human Face
Terror the Human Form Divine ever
And Secrecy, the Human Dress -William Blake
I used to not understand why so much evil existed, but nature itself makes us clash with each other. However, this is taken to the extreme by human greed, where a few have a lot and suck as much as possible from others, creating competition and systemic violence.
I don't think any amount of goodness humanity has can justify the evil. The happiness of everyone does not justify the suffering of one single individual.
There is a short story about this called "The ones who walk away from Omelas". Omelas is a beautiful city where everyone has pure unadulterated happiness. The catch is, the whole thing depends on one child living in total filth, misery, and darkness in a small basement room. Most people accept the child's suffering as the price of the greater good, but some see it and walk away from the city.
I think that's what humanity needs to do, walk away from this planet.
Is anyone else morally injured from all the things you've witnessed on this planet, things you've done, and things that have happened to you. Like none of this shit sits right with my soul, if there is such a thing.
Morality is a phantasm imprisoning the minds of those subject to moral authorities. Notice how much of the evil you speak about is perpetuated by the same people claiming moral authority. They can sleep at night because they genuinely believe they are right. If they can't, they widdle away whatever conscience they have by the same drugs people here use to ctb.
According to common notions of morality, suicide is immoral. Sinful. There have been commentators claiming moral superiority that people dying from painful cancers and genetic disorders should not have access to programs related to the purpose of MAiD. People are pieces of shit. People unable to handle their own suffering project it onto others. And when you fight back, you are the villain. Because you have exposed just how much of a sham their world really is.
Is anyone else morally injured from all the things you've witnessed on this planet, things you've done, and things that have happened to you. Like none of this shit sits right with my soul, if there is such a thing.
Yes. It weighs heavily on me and I have nightmares about the things I've seen. I hate that this is a world made for psychopaths and murderers and I hate how cold and hard I've become.
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Yes. It weighs heavily on me and I have nightmares about the things I've seen. I hate that this is a world made for psychopaths and murderers and I hate how cold and hard I've become.
I think one of the most tragic things about the universe is the way life itself is set up in it.
In order for any life to continue it requires the destruction or consumption of other life. Plants require nutrients from soil. Nutrients in soil often come from the waste products of small organisms that consume and break down other organisms, or it comes from decaying life forms such as animals, insects, other plants, etc etc.
And if course after all of that the plants are either eaten or they die to give life to another animal or plant.
To make it worse, scientists have discovered that when a plant is injured in any way it gives of signals to other plants nearby to communicate not only danger but actual stress and distress. They may not have a central nervous system but they can feel pain in their own way that we cannot fully comprehend and has an instinct to try and survive.
When you mow the lawn, you get that fresh grass smell right? That smell is the grass screaming bloody murder into the air because it has just been violently cut.
So it's no small wonder to me that in this world where the set up is literally brutality, that human beings act in ways that are cruel at the expense of other life and other humans.
I have a theory that the depression and despair we feel isn't always so much a chemical imbalance in our brain but that it's what happens when the part of the brain responsible for rationalizing cruelty and our means of survival (I call it living under an illusion and I think all predatory animals live under this evolved veil of illusion) breaks and we are able with our evolved consciousness to see things as they actually are.
Humankind has evolved to survive over all other species and we did it all with the power of our brain. But I think there might come a day where, if we don't go extinct due to how we have ruined this planet, we will go extinct because we will get so smart and knowledgeable that the veil will be ripped off for everyone and no one will want to live anymore.
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Many times I feel like I feel worse about minor transgressions of my own than others feel about major transgressions that affect other people. It's like I'm compounded by taking the blame for my own misdeeds AND feeling like it is unfair that others don't get any repercussions for doing much worse. Usually the things I guilt myself over just screwed me over... I try at least to not take others down with me.
I have my own moral code or code of ethics or whatever you want to call it. I wonder if we weren't taught these things from a very young age on, would we still have the same ones. Most of my core beliefs have pretty much stayed the same throughout the years. Some of them have expanded and advanced with me but the main ones are still the same. I have broken a few of them along the way, mostly in emergencies or when the fight of flight instinct kicks in, and it does bother me. Sometimes to the point where I loose sleep. What other people do, if they can live with it, more power to them. I don't try to project my beliefs on anybody else. If it makes you happy and you're not in my space. Have at it. I often wonder if people were kept away from each other from birth and taught everything except wrong or right what we as humans would come up with??....
I think one of the most tragic things about the universe is the way life itself is set up in it.
In order for any life to continue it requires the destruction or consumption of other life. Plants require nutrients from soil. Nutrients in soil often come from the waste products of small organisms that consume and break down other organisms, or it comes from decaying life forms such as animals, insects, other plants, etc etc.
And if course after all of that the plants are either eaten or they die to give life to another animal or plant.
To make it worse, scientists have discovered that when a plant is injured in any way it gives of signals to other plants nearby to communicate not only danger but actual stress and distress. They may not have a central nervous system but they can feel pain in their own way that we cannot fully comprehend and has an instinct to try and survive.
When you mow the lawn, you get that fresh grass smell right? That smell is the grass screaming bloody murder into the air because it has just been violently cut.
So it's no small wonder to me that in this world where the set up is literally brutality, that human beings act in ways that are cruel at the expense of other life and other humans.
I have a theory that the depression and despair we feel isn't always so much a chemical imbalance in our brain but that it's what happens when the part of the brain responsible for rationalizing cruelty and our means of survival (I call it living under an illusion and I think all predatory animals live under this evolved veil of illusion) breaks and we are able with our evolved consciousness to see things as they actually are.
Humankind has evolved to survive over all other species and we did it all with the power of our brain. But I think there might come a day where, of we don't go extinct due to how we have ruined this planet, we will go extinct because we will get so smart and knowledgeable that the veil will be ripped off for everyone and no one will want to live anymore.
"Lucid" depression is a symptom, not the illness itself. It points to something being wrong, such as a job that oppresses a person's individuality, or a social role that nullifies the person themselves for the sake of something else.
Another issue you mentioned well is that all life feeds on life; everything suffers entropic decay, and for a living being to repair itself, it must devour other beings that have nutrients similar to its own. Hence, you see fish eating fish, spiders devouring spiders... Existence is beautiful to observe but not to participate in.
Our consciousness was a mistake of nature. When we used fire to cook our food, it gave us an excess of energy and nutrients, and neurons that were used to perceive the world had so much energy that they could perceive themselves. This was humanity's fall from the paradise of unconsciousness... As Ecclesiastes 1:18 says: "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow."
The more one seeks to understand this existence and sees how futile and painful it is, the more likely one is to abandon the game. Some realize this rationally, others feel it.
Is anyone else morally injured from all the things you've witnessed on this planet, things you've done, and things that have happened to you. Like none of this shit sits right with my soul, if there is such a thing.
I have a theory that the depression and despair we feel isn't always so much a chemical imbalance in our brain but that it's what happens when the part of the brain responsible for rationalizing cruelty and our means of survival (I call it living under an illusion and I think all predatory animals live under this evolved veil of illusion) breaks and we are able with our evolved consciousness to see things as they actually are.
I think biology has done a pretty good job in terms of optimism bias, survival instinct, and desire to reproduce to keep the whole thing going. Then you have systems like religion that tell you suffering is a virtue and you will be rewarded for it. It really is an ingenious way to keep this whole thing going. I guess when you can see past all that, you come to conclusions like ours.
I wonder where we get our morals that make us consciously apposed to this existence. Why did biology create something so antithetical to it? It's all very confusing.
Cruelty has a Human Heart
And Jealousy a Human Face
Terror the Human Form Divine
And Secrecy, the Human Dress -William Blake
I used to not understand why so much evil existed, but nature itself makes us clash with each other. However, this is taken to the extreme by human greed, where a few have a lot and suck as much as possible from others, creating competition and systemic violence.
I wonder where we get our morals that make us consciously apposed to this existence. Why did biology create something so antithetical to it? It's all very confusing.
Good question. The vast majority of my life have not been this way. Now it's extreme and I know I will die this way eventually. No the biology of it doesn't seem to make sense.
As your initial thought, yeah, I think lots of things that I've seen in this world overtime have bothered to the point of corruption or something. What I didn't realize is that I was cruel too. Just dead and said whatever I wanted without fear of consequence. Hurt people; didn't even realize that I was cruel. Also doesn't seem to make sense.
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