Venting Medication Doesn't Help Me

[Smilla]

I have had these exact thoughts and it's so nice to read them from someone else. I think for meds to work well you need:
1. like you said, foundation of a decent life -- in terms of relationships, financial security, physical health, meaning
2. ability to have a placebo response -- a large part of their effectiveness is placebo so if you don't believe they're going to work, you lose that
3. trust in doctors - related to 2
4. non-sensitive body that won't get major side effects, forcing you to go off it

So basically I think the most desperate people are screwed.

If you haven't seen it already, you might enjoy the website Mad in America. Your points are valid.

 

[lululoo]

If you haven't seen it already, you might enjoy the website Mad in America. Your points are valid.

Thanks for the rec! I actually have been there quite a bit. I used to read it a lot, then backed off when I became less dogmatically anti-meds, then started looking at it again more recently just because I find it validating even though I am not as fired up about the meds issue as I once was. (not that I don't think it's important... it's just that it was hard to stay passionate about it when my life off meds wasn't really better than my life on meds... both have sucked).

 

[Severen]

At a certain point antidepressants are useless. Doctors don't understand that if a person's life is in ruins a drug cannot magically cause them to accept that. Mind altering addictive chemicals will certainly make things worse.

A person who has a foundation of a decent life, financial security, comfortable circumstances and supportive people can maybe benefit from these meds—but for those without decency in life drugging them into acceptance is destructive and creating a good life from nothing is unrealistic. I believe this is part of that fucked up "American Dream" nonsense where people in bad circumstances are simply not trying hard enough.

Venting because I've had horrible reactions to medication and doctors keep pushing different meds/increased doses on me and I'm tired of it. My life situation is awful and I know these meds won't cause me to somehow accept my fucked up situation. Sitting alone in my room taking SSRI & benzos is not a solution.

My life is in ruins. I don't have a foundation for a decent life but anti depressants helped me. Everyone is different so something useless to you could be useful for others. Yeah, the drugs are probably going to stop working after awhile because my brain will get used to them but hopefully I will be dead by then. So they are not a cure for some. Just a temporary treatment for some. But they help. Without them, I'd be curled in a ball right now, crying. Instead, I'm writing this, drinking coffee, listening to music... I can actually enjoy moments of my life and that was not the case before the Lexapro and Abilify. On the topic of the drugs giving me brain damage or some other kind of permanent damage. I don't care because I don't plan on living a long life... Basically the anti depressants for me are like that extra boost to get me to the finish line and that's it. I don't expect to take them and live a long happy life. I just need them to give me the strength to do what I need to do before I CTB in like a year or two.

 

[lululoo]

My life is in ruins. I don't have a foundation for a decent life but anti depressants helped me. Everyone is different so something useless to you could be useful for others.

Fair point. They work for some people no matter the circumstances. I do think though that they are far less likely to help those in the worst situations. I'm glad you were helped by them.

 

[Rollo]

150mg/ml take 10 sprays intranasaly.

So are you tripping on this dosage? When I was 14-15 I did K a lot, every other weekend basically. They say it's the only psychedelic that you can get addicted to, although I never knew anyone who did. I remember 5ml of solution intramuscular was the most common dosage.

 

[Severen]

Fair point. They work for some people no matter the circumstances. I do think though that they are far less likely to help those in the worst situations. I'm glad you were helped by them.

I think it all depends on your brain. No matter how bad your situation is, they literally suppress the depression(unless you are like the OP). Like some drugs, literally make you high... It's chemicals altering the way your brain works. EDIT: If you inject heroin into you, it won't care how bad your life is, right?

 

[Fucking loving it]

So are you tripping on this dosage? When I was 14-15 I did K a lot, every other weekend basically. They say it's the only psychedelic that you can get addicted to, although I never knew anyone who did. I remember 5ml of solution intramuscular was the most common dosage.

Oh yeah. I definitely feel it....