Kundalini Guy

Kundalini Guy

FULLY RECOVERED
Mar 27, 2023
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Would you mind to explain in detail what you did to get out of your personal hell you've been through? That would give the general phrase "you still have a chance to recover" more sense imo. What has worked for you may not work for others but it could be an inspiration for others who want to try recovery.
Maybe my wording was wrong in this post, but I really did not mean any harm with this post. But regardless, I think medication can work well along with major lifestyle changes. Support matters a lot and having people who care about you. If you have a good psychiatrist who cares about you, you can make huge recovery. When I signed up for this site I was like 90% suicidal and only thing stopping me was not having a good method. Thanks to my psychiatrist and support from family am close to 0%. I probably will delete my account soon because I see no reason to browse this site and am being attacked for trying to help people recover.
 
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So if I'm 24 now, months away from 25, does that mean I should just wait till 25 anyway? What if I'm already set on my decision and have a method in place with everything else at my disposal to use
 
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Praestat_Mori

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Maybe my wording was wrong in this post, but I really did not mean any harm with this post. But regardless, I think medication can work well along with major lifestyle changes. Support matters a lot and having people who care about you. If you have a good psychiatrist who cares about you, you can make huge recovery. When I signed up for this site I was like 90% suicidal and only thing stopping me was not having a good method. Thanks to my psychiatrist and support from family am close to 0%. I probably will delete my account soon because I see no reason to browse this site and am being attacked for trying to help people recover.

Yeah I think your wording for OP wasn't really the best bc most of us may have heard that a million times incl. referring to a certain age range. You name the most important things for a potential recovery: change of "bad" life circumstances, active support (from family), good psychiatrist/therapy and maybe meds.

But what if people cannot change their life circumstances bc of a toxic family, or they cannot afford therapy / psychiatry? That applies especially to the group of people in the age range you mentioned.

I mentioned that in my other post in your other thread, that I think most people who join the community here are probably below rock bottom already after years of negative experiences, depressive episodes due to life circumstances. They don't come here as soon as things start to turn bad in their lives rather much later when they already have to consider methods bc they see no other way out anymore.

The earlier MH issues and all that is recognized and treated the better are the chances for people to recover. That's my opinion.

I'm glad that you had the support you needed and you could recover!
 
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Maybe my wording was wrong in this post, but I really did not mean any harm with this post. But regardless, I think medication can work well along with major lifestyle changes. Support matters a lot and having people who care about you. If you have a good psychiatrist who cares about you, you can make huge recovery. When I signed up for this site I was like 90% suicidal and only thing stopping me was not having a good method. Thanks to my psychiatrist and support from family am close to 0%. I probably will delete my account soon because I see no reason to browse this site and am being attacked for trying to help people recover.

i get you never meant harm when posting this thread. however, there's been hundreds of threads like this over the years and it always carries the same problem.

the issue with these threads is that the creator gets met with criticism and takes it personally, failing to understand why. the message you're trying to communicate through this thread is important, but it's one many of us have heard time and time again in our personal lives. so when people hear it echoed again in a safe space, it's repulsive and they will push back. at the same time, it's on you to be critical and understand why many members would feel that way, especially if you're genuinely wanting to help.

i'm glad you found help in having a good support system, finding medication and a psychiatrist that works for you, while making the necessary lifestyle changes to turn your life around. on the other hand, it's important to understand that those avenues worked for YOU.

each person and their experiences are different and unique. what worked for YOU isn't guranteed to work for others. many of those pushing back against you are likely people who have been victim to this way of thinking.

and i don't blame you for thinking this way. the rise of wellness culture has halted progress to how we should approach mental health discussions and talk about suicidality. this approach you've come with is problematic and will always recieve pushback because it treats treatment and support as a one-size-fits-all solution, overlooking just how complex and unique each of our experiences are.

like @Praestat_Mori mentioned, it's important to understand the range of factors that can influence mental health, which a psychiatrist or feeling cared for (support system) struggles to address. for instance, if terrible socio-economic living conditions are a reason for my poor physical and mental health and wellbeing, is my pain and unhappiness not a rational human response to suffering? how would therapeutic and psychiatric treatment, knowing people care about me, and medication alleviate the suffering that stems from material conditions that impact my every day life?

there's a reason suicide rates are at an all time high despite increased access to mental health services also being better than ever before. the problem continues to persist. the next step in this discourse is asking WHY that is the case?

instead of leaving the site, i do hope you end up staying and at least try to understand where people are coming from and the reasons for pushback. it's a difficult discussion to have, but if you do genuinely care, you understand that it's one that is necessary to have, in order to bridge the gap and better understand the complexity of discussions centered around treatment and support of mental health and suicide.

best of luck.
 
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Kundalini Guy

Kundalini Guy

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Mar 27, 2023
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i get you never meant harm when posting this thread. however, there's been hundreds of threads like this over the years and it always carries the same problem.

the issue with these threads is that the creator gets met with criticism and takes it personally, failing to understand why. the message you're trying to communicate through this thread is important, but it's one many of us have heard time and time again in our personal lives. so when people hear it echoed again in a safe space, it's repulsive and they will push back. at the same time, it's on you to be critical and understand why many members would feel that way, especially if you're genuinely wanting to help.

i'm glad you found help in having a good support system, finding medication and a psychiatrist that works for you, while making the necessary lifestyle changes to turn your life around. on the other hand, it's important to understand that those avenues worked for YOU.

each person and their experiences are different and unique. what worked for YOU isn't guranteed to work for others. many of those pushing back against you are likely people who have been victim to this way of thinking.

and i don't blame you for thinking this way. the rise of wellness culture has halted progress to how we should approach mental health discussions and talk about suicidality. this approach you've come with is problematic and will always recieve pushback because it treats treatment and support as a one-size-fits-all solution, overlooking just how complex and unique each of our experiences are.

like @Praestat_Mori mentioned, it's important to understand the range of factors that can influence mental health, which a psychiatrist or feeling cared for (support system) struggles to address. for instance, if terrible socio-economic living conditions are a reason for my poor physical and mental health and wellbeing, is my pain and unhappiness not a rational human response to suffering? how would therapeutic and psychiatric treatment, knowing people care about me, and medication alleviate the suffering that stems from material conditions that impact my every day life?

there's a reason suicide rates are at an all time high despite increased access to mental health services also being better than ever before. the problem continues to persist. the next step in this discourse is asking WHY that is the case?

instead of leaving the site, i do hope you end up staying and at least try to understand where people are coming from and the reasons for pushback. it's a difficult discussion to have, but if you do genuinely care, you understand that it's one that is necessary to have, in order to bridge the gap and better understand the complexity of discussions centered around treatment and support of mental health and suicide.

best of luck.
Yes I understand now. @Dot messaged me and told me the same, I made the necessary changes to a new post I made in recovery section. I understand certain people with permanent damage will find it impossible to recover. That makes recovery post hard to make and almost always receive negative backlash but it can work for the bulk of people on here (people with mental issues).
 
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burdenox

“You are all the things that are wrong with you”
Nov 10, 2020
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Just turned 21, I don't know if I can deal with another 4 years of this man. The dread is only getting worse.

The world is only getting harder to live in and nothing is getting better. I've tried. I've really really tried, and sure I'm still here, but why?
Just turned 21, I don't know if I can deal with another 4 years of this man. The dread is only getting worse.

The world is only getting harder to live in and nothing is getting better. I've tried. I've really really tried, and sure I'm still here, but why?
 
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Dliena

Dliena

𝚂𝚂 𝙼𝚎𝚖𝚋𝚎𝚛 𝙽𝚘. 43,53?
Dec 22, 2023
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Alright fine just 2 and a half more years of constant bullbuckery and I'm outta this shit. What's the worst that can happen?! Dealt with flooding a WEEK before Christmas, had a mass shooting not too far away from here NOT JUST ONCE BUT TWICE ALL WITHIN THE SAME YEAR. And I live in one of the SAFEST states in the country I mean screw 2023 sure but don't worry everyone it ALWAYS gets better from here AMIRITEY TIGHTY?!?!
 
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until death

maybe it's time to say goodbye
Dec 12, 2023
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Recovery is not an option for me!
 
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Abandoned Character

Abandoned Character

(he./him)
Mar 24, 2023
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I tried recovery by doing therapy but it didn't help
Seeing as we are in a recovery thread, I would encourage you not to give up. Recovery comes in many forms. I went through 4 different therapists before I made any sembleance of progress. There are always paths forward if you are receptive to it.
 
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kettlevinbarq

kettlevinbarq

I'm Tired
Dec 12, 2023
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I turned 25 this year and this is probably the lowest point of my entire life. Idk if age really improves anything
 
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IchijouRirika

IchijouRirika

Burial - Untrue
Dec 24, 2023
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I will turn 23 in nearly a week here, that's 2 years away from turning 25 and let me tell you: ain't no way things that haven't happened in 23 years of my life will happen in only 2 of them.

I live in some third world hell that is impossible to escape, I've been a hikikomori ever since I graduated highschool, I have no real life friends and no significant other, virgin and every single person in my life hates me, be it family or people I know online. And, most people my age have already found a group they belong and/or have a significant other and all have a career they focusing, while I've lost the time window in life for these things.

It simply has never begun to some of us, and if the brain fully stops developing by 25 as you said, I'm not even smart as well, I don't wanna live this life as someone dumb lol
 
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Krisis

Krisis

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Nov 16, 2023
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I will turn 23 in nearly a week here, that's 2 years away from turning 25 and let me tell you: ain't no way things that haven't happened in 23 years of my life will happen in only 2 of them.

I live in some third world hell that is impossible to escape, I've been a hikikomori ever since I graduated highschool, I have no real life friends and no significant other, virgin and every single person in my life hates me, be it family or people I know online. And, most people my age have already found a group they belong and/or have a significant other and all have a career they focusing, while I've lost the time window in life for these things.

It simply has never begun to some of us, and if the brain fully stops developing by 25 as you said, I'm not even smart as well, I don't wanna live this life as someone dumb lol
For what it's worth, I hope you acquire the privilege of being able to view yourself in a more positive light--if nothing else.
 
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oddetoad

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Nov 25, 2023
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I'll be 28 soon. Been waiting for the "it gets better part" for over 10 years.
it just get worse. I don't understand people who say it gets better.
only way i can see that happening is if you turn evil and work hard yeah it might get better but you have to keep it up and thats not gonna be easy
these damn lies everyone tell you "its gonna get better" .. Bullshit lies
 
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these damn lies everyone tell you "its gonna get better" .. Bullshit lies
Easily one of the most cliche and poorly thought out lines out there.
 
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IchijouRirika

IchijouRirika

Burial - Untrue
Dec 24, 2023
32
For what it's worth, I hope you acquire the privilege of being able to view yourself in a more positive light--if nothing else.
nothing positive to be found on me, so I will be acquiring nothing here
 
Krisis

Krisis

Member
Nov 16, 2023
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nothing positive to be found on me, so I will be acquiring nothing here
I am sorry you feel that way. (I only feel comfortable saying this because of the forum this post is in, but I apologize if you do not welcome it.) The notion that there's nothing positive about you can't possibly be true, though. What you feel does not have to become your reality. There's no legitimate reason for you to conclude that you deserve to be defined by your flaws--the ones that actually exist, that is. I know for a fact that there is great potential within you, and I apologize for the amount of suffering you have undergone by which you have become blind to it. I hope you learn to see it too.
 
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