Kids committing suicide in France

[Captive_Mind515]

Every 40 seconds a person commits suicide. This is actually an omnipresent topic ever since the history of humanity but still people avoid talking about it because they feel "uncomfortable" talking about death. Its a horrible thing that humans who have it better in general tend to close their eyes when it comes to such tragic things like this. Its a sad world.

And only 1 in 20 succeed in their attempt. So all of those other 19 out of 20 wanted out as well, but couldn't... and then there is all of the suicidal people that live in misery but never make any attempts... they are typically not even discussed in the statistics. The pro-lifers/preventionists like to only talk about the numbers that make it seem as though they are "defeating" suicide. They usually do not care about all of the suffering people who are trapped in this life, with no way out. Suicide prevention is only about keeping us here and largely ignoring the reasons. Being alive but in pain is still considered a success story to these people...

 

[ChamberOfEchoes]

France is becoming a shitty place to live (like many other countries). Terrorism (one foiled attack per month), explosion of poverty, insane huge taxes, inflation, colossal debt, crazy president and first lady and many more shitty things but they won't talk about it on foreign medias. It was a great country, but forget it now. We need a new revolution but most french people are just dumb sheeps... And now kids are committing suicide...
I'm very sad for my country.

France needs an alliance between the Macron camp and the governing left: Socialists and reformist Greens.
What is required is a broad centre-left republican majority able to isolate the far right and jointly govern labour, welfare, and industry.
Concretely: the Macron bloc + the Socialist Party (with Greens), against the National Rally.

In reality, Macron could succeed on his own, but he lacks the necessary support. France is the very heart of Europe, and if France makes the wrong choice, Europe will collapse.

And only 1 in 20 succeed in their attempt. So all of those other 19 out of 20 wanted out as well, but couldn't... and then there is all of the suicidal people that live in misery but never make any attempts... they are typically not even discussed in the statistics. The pro-lifers/preventionists like to only talk about the numbers that make it seem as though they are "defeating" suicide. They usually do not care about all of the suffering people who are trapped in this life, with no way out. Suicide prevention is only about keeping us here and largely ignoring the reasons. Being alive but in pain is still considered a success story to these people...

The abnormally high number of so-called "suicide attempts" from which the one-to-twenty statistical ratio is derived does not describe a homogeneous area of the phenomenon, but is built almost entirely on behaviors with extremely low lethality, such as superficial cutting, mild poisonings, and the ingestion of over-the-counter medications in doses that could never have led to death even in the absence of rescue, actions that enter official records as attempts by clinical definition but do not share either the real risk or the potential outcome of high-lethality methods, a distortion acknowledged even in institutional sources such as the World Health Organization, and this does not mean at all that for every successful hanging there are twenty failed hangings of the same kind, because those "twenty attempts" are not twenty hangings that ended without a fatal outcome, but a global average generated mainly by acts that, by their very nature, could never have resulted in death.

 

[badatparties]

This is why i resent breeders.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

The abnormally high number of so-called "suicide attempts" from which the one-to-twenty statistical ratio is derived does not describe a homogeneous area of the phenomenon, but is built almost entirely on behaviors with extremely low lethality, such as superficial cutting, mild poisonings, and the ingestion of over-the-counter medications in doses that could never have led to death even in the absence of rescue, actions that enter official records as attempts by clinical definition but do not share either the real risk or the potential outcome of high-lethality methods, a distortion acknowledged even in institutional sources such as the World Health Organization, and this does not mean at all that for every successful hanging there are twenty failed hangings of the same kind, because those "twenty attempts" are not twenty hangings that ended without a fatal outcome, but a global average generated mainly by acts that, by their very nature, could never have resulted in death.

You're missing the point.

If people are making attempts - yes even very weak attempts - this means they are very unhappy and wish to exit this life/or seek extreme measures to alleviate their suffering.

People can be very serious about wanting to die, and yet still make non-serious and non lethal attempts. For a variety of different reasons, including fear and social stigmatisation of the act.

And this is also a big mistake that the preventionists make, when they dismiss such weak attempts as not being serious or important. Often even describing these attempts as "attention seeking behaviour"… etc. This is a very misguided way to view any person who is struggling in this life.

 

[Carryline]

It's so sad that such young children have to commit suicide... but at least they didn't suffer for so long... I envy them because they're so young, they probably don't have as much money and information. I'm twice, almost three times older than them, and I can't finish it, why not??? It's quite strange that such a young child can do it and I can't.

 

[xXSufferingXx]

France is becoming a shitty place to live (like many other countries). Terrorism (one foiled attack per month), explosion of poverty, insane huge taxes, inflation, colossal debt, crazy president and first lady and many more shitty things but they won't talk about it on foreign medias. It was a great country, but forget it now. We need a new revolution but most french people are just dumb sheeps... And now kids are committing suicide...
I'm very sad for my country.

same for denmark, it's a terrible place now.
but what does "foiled" mean? i don't understand that word in this context.
or wait, did you mean failed?

 

[Terrible_Life]

And only 1 in 20 succeed in their attempt. So all of those other 19 out of 20 wanted out as well, but couldn't... and then there is all of the suicidal people that live in misery but never make any attempts... they are typically not even discussed in the statistics. The pro-lifers/preventionists like to only talk about the numbers that make it seem as though they are "defeating" suicide. They usually do not care about all of the suffering people who are trapped in this life, with no way out. Suicide prevention is only about keeping us here and largely ignoring the reasons. Being alive but in pain is still considered a success story to these people...

Yes unfortunately this is our so called "civilized" world ….. in this shit world if a person wants to die he has no option to die with dignity comfortable peaceful in his bed but instead he must use a strong methods like hanging himself, shooting himself in the head and leaving a mess, jumping and traumatizing others….wow this is what our "great" society gives us as available options to end our suffering.

 

[itsgone2]

same for denmark, it's a terrible place now.
but what does "foiled" mean? i don't understand that word in this context.
or wait, did you mean failed?

Foiled as in police or other authorities have stopped them. It's all the same group, all over Europe.

 

[unluckysadness]

Another 17yo girl victim of school bullying found dead here in France. Sadly it will never stop.

Suicide de Camélia en Seine-et-Marne : émotion à Mitry-Mory avant la marche blanche organisée pour l'adolescente dimanche

Une marche blanche aura lieu en Seine-et-Marne en hommage à Camélia. La jeune fille de 17 ans, victime de harcèlement s'est donné la mort le 13 janvier, suscitant une vive émotion. Sa famille a porté plainte et sera prochainement entendue. Reportage sur place, à Mitry-Mory.

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