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- Jul 29, 2021
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is it even morally right to have a child?
IMO it is always morally wrong to have a child.
Even if you are of the opinion that there is more good than bad in this world, we have an obligation not to bring harm to others, we have no obligation to bring them happiness.
Children never ask to be created, they are always created due to the whims of their parents. Creating a thinking and feeling being, with the knowledge that there is no certainty you can provide or protect it, is wrong.
if the child ends up hating life on the whole, then it will turn out that producing them was wrong.
I'm a firm proponent of "don't have kids if you can't afford kids" which imo is not controversial. It's not eugenics. It's exactly the same as "You shouldn't get x animal if you can't provide y enclosure"
is it really moral to have children? People argue about the morality of abortion and suicide yet they never stop to think about the fact that a child is forcefully brought into existence. The child is then forced to follow the doctrines of their parents and gain whatever schooling they can.
If it is considered immoral and selfish to forcefully take one's life (i.e. murder or suicide) then why is it considered moral to forcefully give life? There is no permission given to parents, they selfishly bring a child into existence. Not everyone wants to exist.
Why do people celebrate the birth of babies when all they have to look forward to is the drudgery of school, college, and jobs?
I find it difficult to celebrate the fact that another human is subjected to the prison sentence that is this capitalistic life. It feels disingenuous to congratulate someone for becoming pregnant, as everyone else does.
Life is far from perfect. Pain, suffering, and indifference are not only common but guaranteed. Plus when we consider that work takes up the vast majority of our waking hours, it's hard to imagine why we would willingly subject someone else to this kind of existence.
I think it's important to acknowledge that the challenges of life are real and that not everyone will have the same positive experiences. In my view, life is 33% sleep, 40-50% work, and the rest is recreation/pleasure - and that's not a ratio worth celebrating.
I don't mean to be too negative, but I would rather congratulate someone for getting a vasectomy or hysterectomy. By doing so, they're giving their potential child the best gift possible - avoiding the struggles and hardships that come with living in this world.
IMO it is always morally wrong to have a child.
Even if you are of the opinion that there is more good than bad in this world, we have an obligation not to bring harm to others, we have no obligation to bring them happiness.
Children never ask to be created, they are always created due to the whims of their parents. Creating a thinking and feeling being, with the knowledge that there is no certainty you can provide or protect it, is wrong.
if the child ends up hating life on the whole, then it will turn out that producing them was wrong.
I'm a firm proponent of "don't have kids if you can't afford kids" which imo is not controversial. It's not eugenics. It's exactly the same as "You shouldn't get x animal if you can't provide y enclosure"
is it really moral to have children? People argue about the morality of abortion and suicide yet they never stop to think about the fact that a child is forcefully brought into existence. The child is then forced to follow the doctrines of their parents and gain whatever schooling they can.
If it is considered immoral and selfish to forcefully take one's life (i.e. murder or suicide) then why is it considered moral to forcefully give life? There is no permission given to parents, they selfishly bring a child into existence. Not everyone wants to exist.
Why do people celebrate the birth of babies when all they have to look forward to is the drudgery of school, college, and jobs?
I find it difficult to celebrate the fact that another human is subjected to the prison sentence that is this capitalistic life. It feels disingenuous to congratulate someone for becoming pregnant, as everyone else does.
Life is far from perfect. Pain, suffering, and indifference are not only common but guaranteed. Plus when we consider that work takes up the vast majority of our waking hours, it's hard to imagine why we would willingly subject someone else to this kind of existence.
I think it's important to acknowledge that the challenges of life are real and that not everyone will have the same positive experiences. In my view, life is 33% sleep, 40-50% work, and the rest is recreation/pleasure - and that's not a ratio worth celebrating.
I don't mean to be too negative, but I would rather congratulate someone for getting a vasectomy or hysterectomy. By doing so, they're giving their potential child the best gift possible - avoiding the struggles and hardships that come with living in this world.
