Discussion Feeling sorry for children

[CatAstro.Fee]

This is kind of a vent but also something I just want to talk to others about. Ideas, thoughts.
I saw someone mention something similar before and time and time again, people talk about having a child in spirit but never wanting to bring a child to this earth for their sake and I completely agree.

I would love to have a kid, but I don't want them to suffer how I did or know the horrors of world, the truth. It makes me sad when I see little kids, especially toddlers who are happy and laughing about whatever, because I already know they're gonna suffer, whether it's from their own family or cruelty of children from school, adults, finding out the world is not so kind and the things we have are built on death and ongoing awful things that still get done today.

I just want them to be happy and get the world and treatment they deserve. Maybe I will adopt, but I don't know if I will ever have money to even support another human being, with the economy now. I don't know. I don't know. I wish people would stop having kids at least until things start looking up, I've had people argue with me it's their right but also, that is a person that's life can be total shit if born to the wrong people or shit luck they get from just existing, not even getting started on environment getting extreme from toxins being put into the earth.

It is a right, but children are their own people too, they deserve the best. I've met too many people that have gone through similar things to me that no one should ever have to, trauma from their own family. Why. Parents should be loving and good examples. There's too many that have not done the work to undo generational trauma or educate themselves. Jesus.

I just remembered a lot of children are being neglected by being put on technology at an early age, I've seen it, I've been brought up that way, it fucked me up and I see other kids consuming absolute trash and sexual things and they have no clue and their parents just want a break and I understand but please, give them something tangible, please look after them. Oh god, I wish my parents had mercy not to have me or the very least not to neglect me and put me in real life things other kids were.

 

[Let Me Go]

I used to want kids but now the most loving thing I do is just not create them in the first place. I think more and more people do realize how unaffordable it is so they're choosing less or none. Imo children should only be born out of love not selfishness impulsiveness survival or financial reasons. I don't want them as another cog in the machine, to bring an innocent into this reality/world/timeline now, full of lies, deceit, pain, violence, greed, falsity. Knowing what I know I just don't have the heart to do it to them.

 

[darksouls]

when I was a child myself, I already knew that I did not want to bring children into this sick world

 

[Forever Sleep]

I tend to feel that too. There are young families around me and it's nice to hear them laughing and playing. I also wonder/ worry if it will stay like that though. It's this hope that things will turn out ok for them but, fear that thry won't.

I'm not sure it would be good to meet my friends who are parents now. I'm so anti-natilist, I think some of it may slip out. It's hard making small talk even with my own parents. I spend so much of each day feeling resentful that I was born and that I feel stuck in this life- for now.

 

[Ligottian]

If I was on some kind of deathbed today and was asked what I though was the best thing in my life I had ever done, the answer would be easy....I was never a party to bringing another human into this world.

 

[Seaofsleep]

Yep, one of the reasons I had to leave my job as a childcare practitioner, even though I enjoyed working with children I couldn't get passed these same thoughts.

 

[LastDayOnEarth]

I used to want kids but since I'm planning of killing myself before I reach my mid 30s it's pointless

 

[bl33ding_heart]

This is kind of a vent but also something I just want to talk to others about. Ideas, thoughts.
I saw someone mention something similar before and time and time again, people talk about having a child in spirit but never wanting to bring a child to this earth for their sake and I completely agree.

I would love to have a kid, but I don't want them to suffer how I did or know the horrors of world, the truth. It makes me sad when I see little kids, especially toddlers who are happy and laughing about whatever, because I already know they're gonna suffer, whether it's from their own family or cruelty of children from school, adults, finding out the world is not so kind and the things we have are built on death and ongoing awful things that still get done today.

I just want them to be happy and get the world and treatment they deserve. Maybe I will adopt, but I don't know if I will ever have money to even support another human being, with the economy now. I don't know. I don't know. I wish people would stop having kids at least until things start looking up, I've had people argue with me it's their right but also, that is a person that's life can be total shit if born to the wrong people or shit luck they get from just existing, not even getting started on environment getting extreme from toxins being put into the earth.

It is a right, but children are their own people too, they deserve the best. I've met too many people that have gone through similar things to me that no one should ever have to, trauma from their own family. Why. Parents should be loving and good examples. There's too many that have not done the work to undo generational trauma or educate themselves. Jesus.

I just remembered a lot of children are being neglected by being put on technology at an early age, I've seen it, I've been brought up that way, it fucked me up and I see other kids consuming absolute trash and sexual things and they have no clue and their parents just want a break and I understand but please, give them something tangible, please look after them. Oh god, I wish my parents had mercy not to have me or the very least not to neglect me and put me in real life things other kids were.

I don't wanna have kids, but at the same time I have the urge to have a child and give them all of the love and care I never got growing up. If I'm alive in the future I might adopt and try to give the child I have the best life I could possibly offer.

 

[EternalShore]

I was playing with a kid in a pool once in like 9th grade~ He was telling me about how he was upset about how he got delayed a year in school from his friends because of when he was born, so he was really excited to get into it after waiting so long~ I felt like warning him about how much worse it was going to get, but I didn't~

I feel sad when I see kids on technology all day too~ :( it's so awful~ :( and exposing them to so much bad stuff at such a young age~ >_< I've seen kids in kindergarten talk about South Park~ D: I can't even watch that as an adult because of how awful it is! >_< I hope to be a good mother one day...

Yep, one of the reasons I had to leave my job as a childcare practitioner, even though I enjoyed working with children I couldn't get passed these same thoughts.

I'm sorry you felt that way about it so you had to leave your job~ :( It's neat because in those positions, you can be 1 of the few positive influences on their lives, when the world is just out there to poison and corrupt them~ :) Unfortunately, I'm too submissive to be able to actually manage their desires to run rampant, especially given the neglect that many of them experience elsewhere but alas~ :(

 

[OvercastingClouds]

I have no interest in having children but yeah, things are getting more rough and people are arguably saying it's unethical to be having children right now given the current state of the world

Doesn't help that parents are just giving their kids technology at an early age and being exposed to things they shouldn't take be seeing. Not only is their attention span going to be fried but the content they're ingesting is a cause for concern with how problematic it is that they're getting easy access to nsfw content without supervision. Plus there's a lot more children infiltrating adult spaces which is concerning due to predators (also the lack of children spaces on the internet now).

The environment of the world is declining, animal populations decreasing and dying, global warming making the earth hotter each year, climate change as weather is getting worse. Due to the high population of humans on earth, there isn't enough materials and stuff that can sustain each person comfortably, it's more expensive to live now than before. We have disgusting and people who lack empathy as world leaders, this world values the rich more than the less fortunate.

Future seems too grim to raise kids. Its only a matter of time before a big deal happens, whether it be the consequences of human pullution finally having effect where people start to care, crisis of lack of materials because we've used most of them up, food crisis, housing crisis (already happening), mass animal extinction, etc.

If people choose to have kids now, I won't comment on it or anything but I can only wonder if they truly thought it out, can afford to raise them properly, aren't setting them up behind screens, etc. I'm a little worried for the next generation honestly, gen z are only just becoming adults and things are already looking bad

 

[davidtorez]

This is kind of a vent but also something I just want to talk to others about. Ideas, thoughts.
I saw someone mention something similar before and time and time again, people talk about having a child in spirit but never wanting to bring a child to this earth for their sake and I completely agree.

I would love to have a kid, but I don't want them to suffer how I did or know the horrors of world, the truth. It makes me sad when I see little kids, especially toddlers who are happy and laughing about whatever, because I already know they're gonna suffer, whether it's from their own family or cruelty of children from school, adults, finding out the world is not so kind and the things we have are built on death and ongoing awful things that still get done today.

I just want them to be happy and get the world and treatment they deserve. Maybe I will adopt, but I don't know if I will ever have money to even support another human being, with the economy now. I don't know. I don't know. I wish people would stop having kids at least until things start looking up, I've had people argue with me it's their right but also, that is a person that's life can be total shit if born to the wrong people or shit luck they get from just existing, not even getting started on environment getting extreme from toxins being put into the earth.

It is a right, but children are their own people too, they deserve the best. I've met too many people that have gone through similar things to me that no one should ever have to, trauma from their own family. Why. Parents should be loving and good examples. There's too many that have not done the work to undo generational trauma or educate themselves. Jesus.

I just remembered a lot of children are being neglected by being put on technology at an early age, I've seen it, I've been brought up that way, it fucked me up and I see other kids consuming absolute trash and sexual things and they have no clue and their parents just want a break and I understand but please, give them something tangible, please look after them. Oh god, I wish my parents had mercy not to have me or the very least not to neglect me and put me in real life things other kids were.

You can always adopt a child and save a life instead of creating a life

If I was on some kind of deathbed today and was asked what I though was the best thing in my life I had ever done, the answer would be easy....I was never a party to bringing another human into this world.

Me too! I say the same thing

 

[Cauliflour]

I feel sad when I see kids on technology all day too~ :( it's so awful~ :( and exposing them to so much bad stuff at such a young age~ >_< I've seen kids in kindergarten talk about South Park~ D: I can't even watch that as an adult because of how awful it is! >_< I hope to be a good mother one day...

God damn, these kids are hardcore! I was 15 when I first watched it and even then I found some parts gross (I spent a good chunk of the Prime special covering my screen with my hand)

 

[badatparties]

I'm having an absolutely shitty time down here so i would be insane to invite others to the party. That's all the logic i need.

 

[huifu]

honestly yeah... i couldn't have said it better, i really feel exactly the same way about everything you said.
just look at the mental state of many children today, who are raised by tablets and have absent parents. i've seen children with insomnia from too much screen time. how is it possible that the parents can be SO negligent? many people want babies, but have no idea of the sacrifice it takes to have one. it just makes me so angry and hopeless.

 

[davidtorez]

This is kind of a vent but also something I just want to talk to others about. Ideas, thoughts.
I saw someone mention something similar before and time and time again, people talk about having a child in spirit but never wanting to bring a child to this earth for their sake and I completely agree.

I would love to have a kid, but I don't want them to suffer how I did or know the horrors of world, the truth. It makes me sad when I see little kids, especially toddlers who are happy and laughing about whatever, because I already know they're gonna suffer, whether it's from their own family or cruelty of children from school, adults, finding out the world is not so kind and the things we have are built on death and ongoing awful things that still get done today.

I just want them to be happy and get the world and treatment they deserve. Maybe I will adopt, but I don't know if I will ever have money to even support another human being, with the economy now. I don't know. I don't know. I wish people would stop having kids at least until things start looking up, I've had people argue with me it's their right but also, that is a person that's life can be total shit if born to the wrong people or shit luck they get from just existing, not even getting started on environment getting extreme from toxins being put into the earth.

It is a right, but children are their own people too, they deserve the best. I've met too many people that have gone through similar things to me that no one should ever have to, trauma from their own family. Why. Parents should be loving and good examples. There's too many that have not done the work to undo generational trauma or educate themselves. Jesus.

I just remembered a lot of children are being neglected by being put on technology at an early age, I've seen it, I've been brought up that way, it fucked me up and I see other kids consuming absolute trash and sexual things and they have no clue and their parents just want a break and I understand but please, give them something tangible, please look after them. Oh god, I wish my parents had mercy not to have me or the very least not to neglect me and put me in real life things other kids were.

I agree with every point you made except i disagree that having children is a right, its not a right, its a privilege. And its also an unnecessary imposition. Take your own advice and adopt. I can feel by reading your post that your a good decent human being. All the best to you.

 

[CatAstro.Fee]

Yep, one of the reasons I had to leave my job as a childcare practitioner, even though I enjoyed working with children I couldn't get passed these same thoughts.

I'm so sorry. That is how it is for me whenever I meet one, I get attached and it hurts because they're so innocent and curious and there'd disgusting people in the world or they will have to work until they die. They have no clue. :( I hope whatever you're doing now is fulfilling in some way.

 

[Nightfoot]

I chose not to bring children into the world when I was still a teenager, because I could see the way things were heading in the world.

 

[CatAstro.Fee]

I agree with every point you made except i disagree that having children is a right, its not a right, its a privilege. And its also an unnecessary imposition. Take your own advice and adopt. I can feel by reading your post that your a good decent human being. All the best to you.

Thank you. I probably will when I'm a little older, maybe middle aged lmao. I find your point about privilege interesting, and I'll look into it vs right one of these days.

honestly yeah... i couldn't have said it better, i really feel exactly the same way about everything you said.
just look at the mental state of many children today, who are raised by tablets and have absent parents. i've seen children with insomnia from too much screen time. how is it possible that the parents can be SO negligent? many people want babies, but have no idea of the sacrifice it takes to have one. it just makes me so angry and hopeless.

This exactly. They just want the cuteness part of it but not to give them the nutrition of teaching them, being there for them, listening to them. I see some good parents though, it gives me a little hope, and even for the friends I've known since kids, I see some have turned to be really good people and always questioning their surroundings, so that's good.

I hope as a society we heal and the empire rots. I hope all the time, it's an endless cycle till the people gain back their right to live a fulfilling life.

I'm having an absolutely shitty time down here so i would be insane to invite others to the party. That's all the logic i need.

I love the way you put it lol.

I have no interest in having children but yeah, things are getting more rough and people are arguably saying it's unethical to be having children right now given the current state of the world

Doesn't help that parents are just giving their kids technology at an early age and being exposed to things they shouldn't take be seeing. Not only is their attention span going to be fried but the content they're ingesting is a cause for concern with how problematic it is that they're getting easy access to nsfw content without supervision. Plus there's a lot more children infiltrating adult spaces which is concerning due to predators (also the lack of children spaces on the internet now).

The environment of the world is declining, animal populations decreasing and dying, global warming making the earth hotter each year, climate change as weather is getting worse. Due to the high population of humans on earth, there isn't enough materials and stuff that can sustain each person comfortably, it's more expensive to live now than before. We have disgusting and people who lack empathy as world leaders, this world values the rich more than the less fortunate.

Future seems too grim to raise kids. Its only a matter of time before a big deal happens, whether it be the consequences of human pullution finally having effect where people start to care, crisis of lack of materials because we've used most of them up, food crisis, housing crisis (already happening), mass animal extinction, etc.

If people choose to have kids now, I won't comment on it or anything but I can only wonder if they truly thought it out, can afford to raise them properly, aren't setting them up behind screens, etc. I'm a little worried for the next generation honestly, gen z are only just becoming adults and things are already looking bad

Actually there is enough food , housing, and clothes for everyone! The issue is corporations buying up homes and not re-selling to drive up the prices, along with buying up land, farms, etc.

And there is so many clothes available, especially since fast fashion companies produce so much f a s t fashion, and thrift stores have clothes, but they end up in the landfill, however I see people starting up initiatives to combat this and re-use the material and give it a new life.

The same for food, there is lots of food waste and food being destroyed so it doesn't get to people overseas, because the point is cruelty from governments, they won't allow humanitarian aid, they won't allow for people to go over and help.

There are some stores that will make deals with organizations so they can give it to people who need it at schools or soup kitchens;

But they aren't reaching really poor countries because they were artificially made to be poor, the US and UK have been huge players in making sure countries that had decent societies suffer, they have backed up terrorist organizations and put in puppet politicians to keep people from rising up out of that suffering. They induced war and genocide on purpose, starve the people, suck the countries valuable materials dry.

They want you to think it's your responsibility so they take away the attention from the fact a couple dozen companies are responsibile for most pollution, and even if we as people were doing the least polluting, they'd still be #1 cause. They want you to think there is not enough so you don't question the fundamentals of capitalism; there can't be rich people without the poor, there is a trillionare we all know and he has asked the UN to make a plan so he could end poverty and it was a couple billion, he NEVER FOLLOWED UP. They are just greedy, plain and simple.

I worry too, all the damn time. All I know is there is still beauty in the cracks of this dying society, and people creating their own things despite it all. I don't know what will happen but I'm still here cuz I still want to experience the things that could potentially happen. The communities I've seen where people get to be themselves unapologetically and make safe havens for themselves, like punks, goths, communes, give me a little bit of hope. When I see people get together in groups to stop people from being taken from the raids, it gives me hope too.

I don't know what will happen to the kids. I think they'll be okay, there will be people like me to try and be good examples for them and show them to be open-minded about others. It's hard but I do want to be there for them.

I don't wanna have kids, but at the same time I have the urge to have a child and give them all of the love and care I never got growing up. If I'm alive in the future I might adopt and try to give the child I have the best life I could possibly offer.

That's how I feel, I want to give them all the things I see others lacking, or what I lacked. It's the feeling of justice.

 

[Ligottian]

I've never wanted children. But even if I did, I would never have any. Because no matter how much I loved them, no matter how hard I tried to be a good father, I would still be a totally dysfunctional one.

 

[TearStainedSunsets]

This is kind of a vent but also something I just want to talk to others about. Ideas, thoughts.
I saw someone mention something similar before and time and time again, people talk about having a child in spirit but never wanting to bring a child to this earth for their sake and I completely agree.

I would love to have a kid, but I don't want them to suffer how I did or know the horrors of world, the truth. It makes me sad when I see little kids, especially toddlers who are happy and laughing about whatever, because I already know they're gonna suffer, whether it's from their own family or cruelty of children from school, adults, finding out the world is not so kind and the things we have are built on death and ongoing awful things that still get done today.

I just want them to be happy and get the world and treatment they deserve. Maybe I will adopt, but I don't know if I will ever have money to even support another human being, with the economy now. I don't know. I don't know. I wish people would stop having kids at least until things start looking up, I've had people argue with me it's their right but also, that is a person that's life can be total shit if born to the wrong people or shit luck they get from just existing, not even getting started on environment getting extreme from toxins being put into the earth.

It is a right, but children are their own people too, they deserve the best. I've met too many people that have gone through similar things to me that no one should ever have to, trauma from their own family. Why. Parents should be loving and good examples. There's too many that have not done the work to undo generational trauma or educate themselves. Jesus.

I just remembered a lot of children are being neglected by being put on technology at an early age, I've seen it, I've been brought up that way, it fucked me up and I see other kids consuming absolute trash and sexual things and they have no clue and their parents just want a break and I understand but please, give them something tangible, please look after them. Oh god, I wish my parents had mercy not to have me or the very least not to neglect me and put me in real life things other kids were.

This is exactly how I feel when I look at the course of my life.
I am currently set on the path to have a child with a husband and all of that but I cannot express to you just how terrifying that is for me.

Not only am I scared of somehow fucking up as a parent and Partner but I'm scared that my child will suffer the way i suffered. I'm scared my kid will hate me the way I hate my parents for having me. Im scared that my kid is going to suffer just because of the state of this country and the world both politically and environmentally.

I feel bad for the kids who were born in 2020 and forward.

Even though being a parent is one of my biggest dreams, I think I would be better off caring for a cat or dog with my fiance rather than a human baby. I dont think an animal would live long enough to see this world crumble like a child would.

 

[YandereMikuMistress]

This is kind of a vent but also something I just want to talk to others about. Ideas, thoughts.
I saw someone mention something similar before and time and time again, people talk about having a child in spirit but never wanting to bring a child to this earth for their sake and I completely agree.

I would love to have a kid, but I don't want them to suffer how I did or know the horrors of world, the truth. It makes me sad when I see little kids, especially toddlers who are happy and laughing about whatever, because I already know they're gonna suffer, whether it's from their own family or cruelty of children from school, adults, finding out the world is not so kind and the things we have are built on death and ongoing awful things that still get done today.

I just want them to be happy and get the world and treatment they deserve. Maybe I will adopt, but I don't know if I will ever have money to even support another human being, with the economy now. I don't know. I don't know. I wish people would stop having kids at least until things start looking up, I've had people argue with me it's their right but also, that is a person that's life can be total shit if born to the wrong people or shit luck they get from just existing, not even getting started on environment getting extreme from toxins being put into the earth.

It is a right, but children are their own people too, they deserve the best. I've met too many people that have gone through similar things to me that no one should ever have to, trauma from their own family. Why. Parents should be loving and good examples. There's too many that have not done the work to undo generational trauma or educate themselves. Jesus.

I just remembered a lot of children are being neglected by being put on technology at an early age, I've seen it, I've been brought up that way, it fucked me up and I see other kids consuming absolute trash and sexual things and they have no clue and their parents just want a break and I understand but please, give them something tangible, please look after them. Oh god, I wish my parents had mercy not to have me or the very least not to neglect me and put me in real life things other kids were.

Wish I heard something like this when I didn't even see myself as a kid back then,, now I can't stand a child's laugh, I never felt as if mine was as genuine and ignorantly blissful as there's even when I was "little" I just was jealous of other kids

 

[popcorn1234]

I personally don't want children bc I have schizophrenia and depressive disorder (I usually tell people the names of the illnesses I have if they ask me, just so they have a better understanding of it. But, I think my mental state is due to my circumstances and the fact that I feel deeply). The mental health system hasn't helped me whatsoever, so it wouldn't be right to bring kids into this world if I am not healed.