Issues with Psychotherapy

[sadeyesWA]

I don't know if I'm open to recovery anymore, but I wish I could have an honest conversation with my shrink about suicide without being chucked back in the hospital. My past attempts have made me high risk, so I worry that any whiff of SI could really ruin my day. My depression is "treatment resistant" so I'm on all the fun drugs, but not improving.

Has anyone successfully had a calm, lucid conversation with a health provider about CTB? Is it possible?

 

[fox_wannabe]

I am afraid It cannot be done. There are many ears to hear you here.

 

[sadeyesWA]

Fuck.

 

[GentlyFading]

I don't know if I'm open to recovery anymore, but I wish I could have an honest conversation with my shrink about suicide without being chucked back in the hospital. My past attempts have made me high risk, so I worry that any whiff of SI could really ruin my day. My depression is "treatment resistant" so I'm on all the fun drugs, but not improving.

Has anyone successfully had a calm, lucid conversation with a health provider about CTB? Is it possible?

I haven't because of mandatory reporting. Licensed professionals will permanently lose their license and face jail time and fines if they fail to report patients who have the intent-plan-access risk trifecta. There are ways I have been able to talk about suicidal ideation, but that required a some self censorship on the planning portion and a lot of stress on how I didn't have access and have other protective factors.

Honestly the safest bet is other peers who have experience with suicidal ideation. That's why I have an account here ^^;

 

[Brokenwithbpd]

I don't know if I'm open to recovery anymore, but I wish I could have an honest conversation with my shrink about suicide without being chucked back in the hospital. My past attempts have made me high risk, so I worry that any whiff of SI could really ruin my day. My depression is "treatment resistant" so I'm on all the fun drugs, but not improving.

Has anyone successfully had a calm, lucid conversation with a health provider about CTB? Is it possible?

I'm the same way, but I also tried tms and Ect. Ect helped but my memory is shot now

 

[I-can-only-imagine]

I mean, my team all knows. They know I have the thoughts etc and like you, am classed as high risk. They don't know my method as apart from telling them about this site, the ONLY other thing I have not told them is my method. They have a vague idea of what it could be but no actual idea of what it actually is. But I have had vague discussions with them about it. Sometimes they ask for voluntary admission but as they don't quite have enough to force me, there is nothing they can do. I am always careful to ensure I don't quite say enough that they could section me.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

You have to keep things vague. If you straight up tell them you are planning on killing yourself then you will be thrown in the psyche ward. It is one of the most humiliating and degrading experiences. I wouldn't be surprised if psyche wards actually caused suicides. Because I would rather be dead than go back.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

When I was talking to the peeps I kept saying that I was planning to kill myself "in like five years, I don't have a method" and could talk about it as much as I wanted. Talking didn't cure my autism or give me a gf, so I ended up on the forum anyway tho (lol).

 

[sadeyesWA]

Thanks for the replies. I won't give myself away (I hope), but it's still disappointing. My shrink is pretty good, so she might sus me out. I just wish I could have an in-depth convo with someone trained to do it and really dig deep on my motivations, because they're... not as clear as I'd like. I feel like I've lived too long, for a long time.

Anyway, I'll be careful.

 

[Dragon's Heart]

An observation about suicide assessment: It is lacking but I realize it's just a tool for people to use because there isn't anything else. It just seems like checking off boxes and listening for certain words is a primitive method for this type of determination. Just my opinion, but I think at least half the people on here are not covered by the usual statistics.

 

[Cameron Diazepam]

Treatment resistant also. I tried to breach the topic in a roundabout way by discussing the right to die movement but the risk of involuntarily commitment is always there. The doctor said "I'm not even going to talk about that" and changed the subject. Given the general and medical attitude against the right to choose and death with dignity I think it would be very hard to find a sympathetic doctor.

 

[Starryeyes]

I have a previous attempt recorded on my records. I'm back on the drug I overdosed on. Told my psychiatrist I was actively suicidal. I'm not in a mental health facility.