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Oct 8, 2020
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what i would advise people to do is read this thread and take note of what members said what and who endorsed this so called 'legit site'. A site that is listed on EXIT international scammer's list aswell.

Also i might add if people have been sending you website addresses of scammers, it may be wise to report them to the moderators in order for them to see who has been sending what to people and possibly trying to get genuine members scammed.

I think people need to chill out a bit here. No one has reported getting scammed by this guy yet. In fact one member reported getting SN and meto from them. I think all their photos for every chemical they sell are from stock images. This is ukraine based and maybe this stuff gets sold on the web more commonly there.


At the end of the day his prices for N are super low. In general you never know if N will make it through customs from D or A when you're paying 10x as much per gram. I ordered some meto from him and it appeared to get stopped by customs. But the tracking was legit and something did ship out from the Ukraine. He has clearly realized that his clientele is suicidal people. What would make more sense, trying to scam them by selling N for close to what it probably costs to synthesize in China with a bit of markup and getting listed as a scammer quickly or actually selling N as he clearly has lab connections.

I still think someone should take a gamble on his N for $150 and report back.
 
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checkouttime

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I think people need to chill out a bit here. No one has reported getting scammed by this guy yet. In fact one member reported getting SN and meto from them. I think all their photos for every chemical they sell are from stock images. This is ukraine based and maybe this stuff gets sold on the web more commonly there.


At the end of the day his prices for N are super low. In general you never know if N will make it through customs from D or A when you're paying 10x as much per gram. I ordered some meto from him and it appeared to get stopped by customs. But the tracking was legit and something did ship out from the Ukraine. He has clearly realized that his clientele is suicidal people. What would make more sense, trying to scam them by selling N for close to what it probably costs to synthesize in China with a bit of markup and getting listed as a scammer quickly or actually selling N as he clearly has lab connections.

I still think someone should take a gamble on his N for $150 and report back.

Wel i'm certainly not going to advise people to go on a site that is clearly listed on exit internationals nembutalscams list!!!! any anyone that goes on it is well pretty stupid IMO.

Have you ever heard the sentence "if something seems to good to be true, it usually is". I mean its already been pointed out its on a scam list and a moderator of this site has pointed out all the 'red flags' I'll leave it upto the members to decide.

I mean if you go against a genuine assisted suicide sites info, that a site is a scammer and then a moderator point out the 'red flags', a moderator i may point out uploaded a legit version of the PPH to help members of the site ........then you deserve to be scammed.

why would anyone sell X4 the amount of N (100g) for $150 ( 1/4 of the price for 1 bottle) Just reading that makes all the sense i need to know about it, its not like they get repeat customers!!

Like i said do i trust a legit assisted suicide site, do i trust a moderator of here who has proven themselves to want to help people on here OR do i trust a site listed as a scammer site by EXIT. I imagine its a no brainer for most.

C had lab connections and he didn't sell his powder N for stupidly low price ( i can imagine them putting the price up after reading all this to look more 'legit')

The evidence is there to see, People will make there own decisions. I'm sure they will be the right ones aswell.

Also i do't understand this sentence

"I still think someone should take a gamble on his N for $150 and report back"

why don't you make the purchase if your so confident in it?
 
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Also i do't understand this sentence

"I still think someone should take a gamble on his N for $150 and report back"

why don't you make the purchase if your so confident in it?

I already got my N from D. If I had seen his N for $150 before I would have taken a gamble on it. I tried to get meto from him but seems like it got stopped at customs so had to get it elsewhere. It just seems odd to me that he'd have what seems to be a legitimate chemical business and all of a sudden start using it as a scam for selling N at cut rate prices.

Realistically the N market is ripe for disruption because the cost of vet N is like $10 and powdered Chinese N is probably next to nothing too. The current N sellers are massively gouging everyone. I just think that there is a chance this guy has legitimately found a lab to create N and decided to sell it at a more reasonable price, probably still making a good profit. $150 is nothing for many on here, esp if you are planning to go anyway. Can't take the money with you why not just try to get cheap N instead of spending your last minutes vomiting with SN.
 
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Realistically the N market is ripe for disruption because the cost of vet N is like $10 and powdered Chinese N is probably next to nothing too. The current N sellers are massively gouging everyone. I just think that there is a chance this guy has legitimately found a lab to create N and decided to sell it at a more reasonable price, probably still making a good profit. $150 is nothing for many on here, esp if you are planning to go anyway. Can't take the money with you why not just try to get cheap N instead of spending your last minutes vomiting with SN.
Most drugs are cheap when originally made. Cocaine is cheap af in Mexico, same with fentanyl. It's the risks of selling/distributing that bumps up the price.
 
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Most drugs are cheap when originally made. Cocaine is cheap af in Mexico, same with fentanyl. It's the risks of selling/distributing that bumps up the price.

Yeah but with N we pay the high price plus take all the distribution/importing risk because it's still in Mexico or the Ukraine or whatever.
 
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So i would advise people to just take a moment and repeat this sentence to themselves......

this person is listed on exit internationals nembutalscams list

just say that a few times and see how it sinks in, its really all that needs to be said!!!!

I have a sneaky feeling that in trying to promote that they sell N, they have now well and truly fuked themselves right over, i wouldn't advise buying ANYTHING of this site and i'm pretty sure people aren't stupid enough to do so. I wouldn't even be arsed if someone posted some BS 'evidence' it was real. they are on EXIT's scam list, the reason is unbelievably obvious, EXIT have no ulterior motive to put them on there apart from to warn others no to buy from the sites listed. Now you have to ask yourself do you trust random members posting about them or do you trust a legit assisted suicide site, quite simple really!!
I already got my N from D. If I had seen his N for $150 before I would have taken a gamble on it. I tried to get meto from him but seems like it got stopped at customs so had to get it elsewhere. It just seems odd to me that he'd have what seems to be a legitimate chemical business and all of a sudden start using it as a scam for selling N at cut rate prices.

Realistically the N market is ripe for disruption because the cost of vet N is like $10 and powdered Chinese N is probably next to nothing too. The current N sellers are massively gouging everyone. I just think that there is a chance this guy has legitimately found a lab to create N and decided to sell it at a more reasonable price, probably still making a good profit. $150 is nothing for many on here, esp if you are planning to go anyway. Can't take the money with you why not just try to get cheap N instead of spending your last minutes vomiting with SN.

Something very easy to notice is LEGITIMATE chemical business' don't have photoshopped images, listings showing a small bottle of N is stolen from another clearnet scam website that sells N. Other images were stolen from Alibaba or actual pharmacy shops.............

I'm going post it here before it probably happens....I await all the pictures to be all changed to look more 'legit' now its been pointed out. Something that will actually fuel the reason for them being a scammer even more so lol

Also i can tell you that people who sell illegal drugs do not think about selling stuff 'cheaper' to help others. anyone with experience in this stuff could tell you that. there is a market price and people stick to around the same amount. these people aren't your 'friends' they are in the business to make large amounts of profit. they take the risks, imagine if you got caught for selling N and had made $150. i imagine most people can see it wouldn't be worth it .

I also noticed someone saying no1 had been scammed yet, well that clearly not the case. The website has been added to the list because someone HAS been scammed. they don't just add legitimate chemical companies for the fun of it, thats laughable to even think that .

I wouldn't buy anything from them, they sell scam N then why would their other stuff be legit?? if you need the answer to that then god help you!!

wouldn't be surprised if they have been scamming people with other stuff and decided to get greedy and make more money, and probably wish they hadn't now lmao.

If people keep sending members links to the site aswell, i would advise people to report the people sending it. that way the mods can see who the people are and make a decision on them.



The aim of the Nembutalscams.com website is to stop people falling victim to an online Nembutal scam.

The idea is to create an online 'Neighbourhood Watch' area where everyone has your back.

The reality is that no matter how professional a site might look, it will be a scam.

The task for those who have been scammed, is to report the website here so that others can be warned and avoid being ripped off
 
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Is this the store beginning with M who used to be on the craft site ? I have N already but am looking to acquire meto
 
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LMFAO the price has gone up and now its on sale aswell!!!

how unpredictable was that!!!!!!!

It was $150 for 100g now its $530 for 100g :pfff::pfff:yeah ok then!!!! WOW the price of making it must have shot right up within the last few days:heh:

I guess it must of also been a coincidence people making threads about powdered N, and then all of a sudden bam a 'NEW' source appeared lol, fucking hell how lucky was that:pfff::pfff:
 
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Just receivedy n for b(d). Did you test it? And did yours have fake cosmetic labels?
I already got my N from D. If I had seen his N for $150 before I would have taken a gamble on it. I tried to get meto from him but seems like it got stopped at customs so had to get it elsewhere. It just seems odd to me that he'd have what seems to be a legitimate chemical business and all of a sudden start using it as a scam for selling N at cut rate prices.

Realistically the N market is ripe for disruption because the cost of vet N is like $10 and powdered Chinese N is probably next to nothing too. The current N sellers are massively gouging everyone. I just think that there is a chance this guy has legitimately found a lab to create N and decided to sell it at a more reasonable price, probably still making a good profit. $150 is nothing for many on here, esp if you are planning to go anyway. Can't take the money with you why not just try to get cheap N instead of spending your last minutes vomiting with SN.
 
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I have imported from a e European pharmacy for about 20 years. He can never get N
 
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HopelessFight

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Jan 31, 2021
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While, after consideration, I do not currently believe this is legit, can we please stick to the facts, @checkouttime?

First of all, he didn't suddenly increase the price of his N - it has been $530 since he started offering it. The $150 is for the 25gr option.

Second, I've had some users asking me to send the link through PM and yes, I did send the link to some of these people, which included a warning that this source has not been verified and I would not order before it is proven to be legit.

Third, this vendor has been using stock images for a very long time.

Fourth, I am pretty sure this guy does ship you some powder if you order from him, unless he completely changed his way of operation. I don't believe it'll be N, but it's impossible that someone ordered from him, sent a sample to EC and received the results already. That's simply impossible in such short period of time. Anyone can submit a new scammer's link to the Exit's Nembutal scammer's list. While it most likely is a scam, it simply being listed on there doesn't prove much for me personally at this moment, unless Exit manually checks if it is indeed a scam, which I don't believe they do, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I have ordered from this guy before (meto and SN) and at least his meto is (or was) very legit. It's in an original package, like you would get at a pharmacy. If you don't believe me, I don't mind sharing a few photo's of it. I'm pretty sure his SN is (or again, was) legit as well, although I have my doubts about it's purity. Unfortunately, I don't think it's very easy to test this. As far as I'm aware, there are no reports on this forum from people that tried to use his SN and failed, while he's been a very popular SN source for a long time.

This site has been spreading around on this forum since I joined. Lots of users have ordered SN from him. That doesn't mean his N is legit, he might even gone completely rogue by now and might not be shipping legit meto/SN anymore. All products he offered were legal substances, only recently he added stuff like N and MDMA.

There are very clear red flags here though: he's not answering questions by e-mail (or avoiding them), a very cheap price, payment through Paypal, suddenly adding illegal drugs like MDMA, listing on the clearweb,.... so yes, I agree with @RainAndSadness that we should not order anything (even if he's still selling legit meto) from this website, at least for the time being.

But please do not accuse me of spreading a scammer's link through PM or endorsing a scammer. Yes, I did spread this link before he added illegal substances since I (and many other users) did get successful deliveries and yes, I did share the link to a few people since he started offering N, but I have also warned these people to not order before being verified as legit. Since, after consideration, this will almost certainly be a scam, I am not sharing the link anymore (and have not been doing so for the past weeks). People who want the link can have a look at Exit's scammer's database, it's listed there.

If someone thinks it's worth the risk paying the $150, be aware you will most likely lose your money. In addition, if you receive some powder, you will have to send a sample to EC for testing, which will cost you another $120 + shipping. Next to that, I have no idea how he will handle customs, so that will be a risk as well. Whatever you decide, do not order the MDMA, unless you want to end up in prison.
 
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OnlyTheWind

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Aug 29, 2020
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I would also like a PM with details for the seller with N. Not my primary desired method anymore, but if it's legit..
 
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Smart No More

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Well said
While, after consideration, I do not currently believe this is legit, can we please stick to the facts, @checkouttime?

First of all, he didn't suddenly increase the price of his N - it has been $530 since he started offering it. The $150 is for the 25gr option.

Second, I've had some users asking me to send the link through PM and yes, I did send the link to some of these people, which included a warning that this source has not been verified and I would not order before it is proven to be legit.

Third, this vendor has been using stock images for a very long time.

Fourth, I am pretty sure this guy does ship you some powder if you order from him, unless he completely changed his way of operation. I don't believe it'll be N, but it's impossible that someone ordered from him, sent a sample to EC and received the results already. That's simply impossible in such short period of time. Anyone can submit a new scammer's link to the Exit's Nembutal scammer's list. While it most likely is a scam, it simply being listed on there doesn't prove much for me personally at this moment, unless Exit manually checks if it is indeed a scam, which I don't believe they do, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I have ordered from this guy before (meto and SN) and at least his meto is (or was) very legit. It's in an original package, like you would get at a pharmacy. If you don't believe me, I don't mind sharing a few photo's of it. I'm pretty sure his SN is (or again, was) legit as well, although I have my doubts about it's purity. Unfortunately, I don't think it's very easy to test this. As far as I'm aware, there are no reports on this forum from people that tried to use his SN and failed, while he's been a very popular SN source for a long time.

This site has been spreading around on this forum since I joined. Lots of users have ordered SN from him. That doesn't mean his N is legit, he might even gone completely rogue by now and might not be shipping legit meto/SN anymore. All products he offered were legal substances, only recently he added stuff like N and MDMA.

There are very clear red flags here though: he's not answering questions by e-mail (or avoiding them), a very cheap price, payment through Paypal, suddenly adding illegal drugs like MDMA, listing on the clearweb,.... so yes, I agree with @RainAndSadness that we should not order anything (even if he's still selling legit meto) from this website, at least for the time being.

But please do not accuse me of spreading a scammer's link through PM or endorsing a scammer. Yes, I did spread this link before he added illegal substances since I (and many other users) did get successful deliveries and yes, I did share the link to a few people since he started offering N, but I have also warned these people to not order before being verified as legit. Since, after consideration, this will almost certainly be a scam, I am not sharing the link anymore (and have not been doing so for the past weeks). People who want the link can have a look at Exit's scammer's database, it's listed there.

If someone thinks it's worth the risk paying the $150, be aware you will most likely lose your money. In addition, if you receive some powder, you will have to send a sample to EC for testing, which will cost you another $120 + shipping. Next to that, I have no idea how he will handle customs, so that will be a risk as well. Whatever you decide, do not order the MDMA, unless you want to end up in prison.



Well said! :)


I'd like to add also that even things like the meto etc may be fke even if they're in blister packs and boxes etc. I'm not saying that they are, just that it is a very real possibility. Many meds are faked and look itentical. It surprised me too until I saw it for myself.

I guess I'm just adding my 2c to the "be very careful" jar.
 
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the facts are this website is listed on EXIt internationals scammers list. thats all the facts i need. Seen as they are an assisted suicide website who have no motives whatsoever for putting random websites on the list, apart from scam websites, who have scammed people, i'm rather inclined to believe them.

oh right i guess thats the $150 for 25g option that isn't listed on the site. let me guess its the option you have to ask for ? yeah ok then.

As i have pointed out someone may post buying it. I'm going to use my crystal ball so when it happens people will know how easy it was to predict beforehand!!!!!

I imagine very shortly a thread will come up that someone has bought it and had it tested. and its legit blah blah. They may even (not banking on it) get a legit test of some N. I personally couldn't care less as this site has already been added to the list of scammers, the damage is done.


Like i said before anyone who promotes a website that is listed as a scam site i would be very wary off. thats my choice and i leave it upto others what they decide. I imagine it won't be hard for them to make a decision

Unfortunately i'm guessing this attempt of posting this site and trying to get people scammed has totally backfired IMO quite funny actually, next time people might think twice before trying to be smart arses as everyone now knows about this SCAM site

just because people keep still posting asking for the link makes me laugh my tits off. trying their best to make the site look legit, its been proven its not lmao. and all them people do is show other members how un trustworthy they are aswell, but there not clever enough to realise that. they just want to stick up for their chums lol.
 
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the facts are this website is listed on EXIt internationals scammers list. thats all the facts i need. Seen as they are an assisted suicide website who have no motives whatsoever for putting random websites on the list, apart from scam websites, who have scammed people, i'm rather inclined to believe them.

oh right i guess thats the $150 for 25g option that isn't listed on the site. let me guess its the option you have to ask for ? yeah ok then.

As i have pointed out someone may post buying it. I'm going to use my crystal ball so when it happens people will know how easy it was to predict beforehand!!!!!

I imagine very shortly a thread will come up that someone has bought it and had it tested. and its legit blah blah. They may even (not banking on it) get a legit test of some N. I personally couldn't care less as this site has already been added to the list of scammers, the damage is done.


Like i said before anyone who promotes a website that is listed as a scam site i would be very wary off. thats my choice and i leave it upto others what they decide. I imagine it won't be hard for them to make a decision

Unfortunately i'm guessing this attempt of posting this site and trying to get people scammed has totally backfired IMO quite funny actually, next time people might think twice before trying to be smart arses as everyone now knows about this SCAM site

just because people keep still posting asking for the link makes me laugh my tits off. trying their best to make the site look legit, its been proven its not lmao. and all them people do is show other members how un trustworthy they are aswell, but there not clever enough to realise that. they just want to stick up for their chums lol.
Honestly it's better not being so passionately involved with this thread lol
 
OnlyTheWind

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And yet again, peoples desperation is rewarded with disappointment. I never received a pm, but eh, it was just curiousity after all.
 
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checkouttime

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Jul 15, 2020
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Honestly it's better not being so passionately involved with this thread lol

lol it doesn't take much effort, honestly! its rather funny watching people trying to make rational of why they still promote a listed scammer!!!!!! just makes it even more obvious for legit members to see who these people are:blarg:.


I'm guessing this website had a pretty little income, i'm guessing that has just taken a massive hit. so pretty funny really, glad this site was pointed out lmao
 
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Apr 19, 2018
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Please can I have a PM
fuck I'm in hell
 
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May 14, 2018
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Did anyone figure out if the source for it was legit? I'm ordering N in September I paid for funeral cost so I'll be exiting soon I feel it coming
 
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donewrong

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Jul 14, 2021
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N powder sources are to be spotted at a few darknet marketplaces a the moment. Anyone give them a go ? Little to no reviews but the bang for the buck is enticing
 
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HopelessFight

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Jan 31, 2021
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Can you pm me a link please for that seller?
No one on this forum reported ordering N from this source and there is no indication it is legit at all. I highly advice you not to look for this source since you will almost most certainly be scammed and lose your money.
 
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LastLoveLetter

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Mar 28, 2021
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This source is on the Nembutal Scams list by Exit International and one of the SS Moderators, @RainAndSadness, recently reiterated that it's a scam:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-from-d-to-china.70713/page-3#post-1301632

There is more information here as well in which Rain specifies the red flags on the site and she states the fact this vendor was uploaded onto the Nembutal Scams list:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/megathread-n-from-c-alternative-n-sources.28554/post-1285228

Perhaps this thread ought to be locked at this point. The discussion has run its course, the source is not trusted and the thread being inadvertently bumped by those who do not realise this could result in someone losing a lot of money.

Please be careful everyone, there's a lot of scams out there preying on desperate, suffering individuals who need a peaceful exit. Stay safe and take care.
 
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Links for PPeH in the Suicide Resources not working any more :(
 
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HopelessFight

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Links for PPeH in the Suicide Resources not working any more :(
Looks like Mega took it down. Someone probably reported it.

I guess you need to look very friendly to @RainAndSadness for a re-upload ;-)
 
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Just close this thread before a naive person got scammed!!!
 
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