Is this is what survival instincts are?

[DskDsk]

I have absolutely nothing left to live since August of this year. Since 11 September 2025,I really wanted to die.

But still I donot kill myself. I just sleep all day and night. I simply donot have the energy to do anything in life. I barely get out of bed for 2 hours each day.

I feel a dread thinking about the full suspension hanging method. SN method is out of reach as parents have taken my SN 3 times and they search my room each day. Eating aluminum phosphide tablets also seem a lot painful method.

Is these things that I experience are survival instincts or survival instincts are something else?

 

[Irisse]

I don't think it's survival instinct, you just have low energy due to depression and whatever trauma you have. It's quite a common phenomenon actually, as lots of suicidal people commit when they are feeling a bit better, because they have more energy to plan and prepare.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

No. SI is standing at the edge of a cliff and not being able to jump, or holding a gun to the side of your head and not being able to squeeze the trigger. There's a distinction between actually "trying" a method (but ultimately unable to carry it out at the point of no return) versus just merely "thinking" about methods and discounting them in your mind.

 

[dalemar]

I have absolutely nothing left to live since August of this year. Since 11 September 2025,I really wanted to die.

But still I donot kill myself. I just sleep all day and night. I simply donot have the energy to do anything in life. I barely get out of bed for 2 hours each day.

I feel a dread thinking about the full suspension hanging method. SN method is out of reach as parents have taken my SN 3 times and they search my room each day. Eating aluminum phosphide tablets also seem a lot painful method.

Is these things that I experience are survival instincts or survival instincts are something else?

Was your SN taken before you could used it? Or you failed a first SN attempt?

 

[Sadbanana]

I think it might be survival instinct. At least it is in my case. I'm also mostly bed bound and have zero executive function. I think if I really wasn't afraid at all I would already find a way. It's some primitive part of your mind that just doesn't want to die no metter how much you are suffering.

 

[Jisatsu]

Si is knowing you wnat to do it but still not being able to because your own body pushes back.

 

[DskDsk]

Was your SN taken before you could used it? Or you failed a first SN attempt?

It was taken before I could use it

 

[fadedghost]

I think it might be survival instinct. At least it is in my case. I'm also mostly bed bound and have zero executive function. I think if I really wasn't afraid at all I would already find a way. It's some primitive part of your mind that just doesn't want to die no metter how much you are suffering.

i love this reply

because i think SI is in part if you are on a cliff and simply can't, but it can also start way before that

i connect with this so much. i feel like when i get suicidal, i lose my ability to get anything done, like my brain just goes into hibernation mode because it knows on some level what i want to do

i think when you are in bed with executive function, it's sort of hard to get over that, extremely difficult if not impossible, but with larger SI at the edge, it's like a complete brain shutdown, like power off mode. i put a gun in my mouth once when i was younger, and that happened: like my volition just powered off. it's awful.

It's almost like we need two forms of SI

SI

and

Edge SI

 

[Sadbanana]

i love this reply

because i think SI is in part if you are on a cliff and simply can't, but it can also start way before that

i connect with this so much. i feel like when i get suicidal, i lose my ability to get anything done, like my brain just goes into hibernation mode because it knows on some level what i want to do

i think when you are in bed with executive function, it's sort of hard to get over that, extremely difficult if not impossible, but with larger SI at the edge, it's like a complete brain shutdown, like power off mode. i put a gun in my mouth once when i was younger, and that happened: like my volition just powered off. it's awful.

It's almost like we need two forms of SI

SI

and

Edge SI

Yes I think it's still SI, just different intensity. Maybe depression overall is just an evolutionary defense mechanism against suicide. Many people commit after getting a bit better, because then they finally have the energy for it.

 

[Terrible_Life]

Yes I think it's still SI, just different intensity. Maybe depression overall is just an evolutionary defense mechanism against suicide. Many people commit after getting a bit better, because then they finally have the energy for it.

But wouldn't people who get better see that as something positive and then try to live their life? I mean yes I heard this and read about it but I just find it so strange if I'd be in a long deperessive episode and then all of a sudden I would feel better i could do stuff take part in society etc why would I then kill myself? Wouldn't then the person instead say well now i suffered so long lets enjoy as much i can from this better feeling and then when it all starts again the depression i will ctb

 

[Sadbanana]

But wouldn't people who get better see that as something positive and then try to live their life? I mean yes I heard this and read about it but I just find it so strange if I'd be in a long deperessive episode and then all of a sudden I would feel better i could do stuff take part in society etc why would I then kill myself? Wouldn't then the person instead say well now i suffered so long lets enjoy as much i can from this better feeling and then when it all starts again the depression i will ctb

I think there is a difference between getting out of a depressive episode and solving the problems that made you depressed in the first place. I know my life would be far from worth living even if I got all my executive function and energy back. If you just maneged to treat the symptom and not the root cause, and the function that symptom is to keep you alive, then good luck.

 

[Intoxicated]

Is these things that I experience are survival instincts or survival instincts are something else?

Survival instinct is just an artificial construct that doesn't exist outside of minds of people. It's a chimera widely used by posters of this forum as an euphemism for hardly manageable fear or intolerance to discomfort. There is no any meaningful truth behind it.

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