Discussion Is Nembutal the best method in your opinion?

[Arak]

Consciousness is not "all or nothing." We can be more or less awake, more or less conscious. And just because patients cannot move does not mean they are unconscious — consciousness does not reside in our muscles.

(this apart from Smedley´s obvious suffering)

Idorus, I don't agree. Assuming you have no tolerance to sedatives, you take the N in the proper way, it is absorbed properly, make sure you take a very high dose you will lose consciousness and not feel a thing. There can be rare complications like someone on pain medications who is suffering serious pain (pentobarbital can cause hyperalgesia), but once you're out you're out. A massive dose should ensure there is no suffering. There is no 100 %.

But just keep waiting for that Sarco that may be available in the 22nd century ; )

 

[Death.]

I think Nembutal is king. Nothing beats falling asleep and losing consciousness shortly thereafter.

 

[secoma]

I saw someone commented on youtube that he took 3grams OD on Amitriptyline and survived because his partner acted within an hour.
He said that he felt NOTHING. He just fell asleep until he woke up a week later.
If the stroy is ture, amitriptyline cocktail would be one of the best method for euthanasia.
But I know that amitriptyline's effect varies on person-to-person, that's why the reliability is a bit low.

 

[Death.]

I saw someone commented on youtube that he took 3grams OD on Amitriptyline and survived because his partner acted within an hour.
He said that he felt NOTHING. He just fell asleep until he woke up a week later.
If the stroy is ture, amitriptyline cocktail would be one of the best method for euthanasia.
But I know that amitriptyline's effect varies on person-to-person, that's why the reliability is a bit low.

This method is peaceful only when taken along with long acting and short acting benzodiazepines

 

[secoma]

This method is peaceful only when taken along with long acting and short acting benzodiazepines

Amitriptyline itself is also a strong sedative.
"amitriptyline is a strong sedative and fall will quickly resut"(PPeh says).
PPeH doesn't say benzos are "necessary" nor "essential", it just says "common to include benzo".
This makes me think we don't even need benzodiazepines necessarily!?
Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Chalken]

There's also the exit bag method using Helium or Nitrogen. If done correctly, you should lose consciousness in a couple of seconds.

 

[DepressionsAHo]

I think it depends on the person and gender as well
Women statistically tend to go the poisoning route whilst men tend to go for violent but effective
There are of course exceptions
Some people want to feel something before they go as is evident on this forum and don't want necessarily peaceful "go to sleep methods". I admit, I'd strongly prefer jumping.. specifically and ONLY off the GGB and for a long time, nothing else appealed to me. That's the case with most GGB jumpers though. I've looked into other methods now and CO is appealing too.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

What did you learn?

I'm hesitant to answer. Everyone has to assess the different methods' risks and evaluate whether each suits their needs or not. N has a very loyal following, many who become incensed with others sharing their judgements it's not appealing to them. I've watched many videos on N and read many reports on possible complications, including those by physicians and family members present during ingestion. It's just not the method for me. Best to you with whatever method you decide on.

I am anti-suicidal, yet I want to KMS. I respect people's choices to end their lives, but I want them to continue fighting the pain because it genuinely saddens me when they lost all will to live, given their circumstances...I guess it's just my depression: I don't like having this much empathy. I guess I'm just being selfish.

Thanks for elaborating. I didn't mean at all to imply you're selfish. I don't think that at all. And I do understand the ambivalence of being pro-rights and not wanting those we come to care about to be hopeless or gone. I was questioning because I read, "Best method would be to not kill yourself" and wondered why dying (assuming a method someone felt was ideal for them) would be worse than being alive. I'm looking forward to being dead as I won't have any struggles anymore--at least I think so. And I sincerely regret having been born, even given the few moments of pleasure I had while alive. Best to you.

 

[hegesias]

For me, N is the way to go. The problem is it is hard to find. And you need antiemetics.

 

[dandan]

For me, N is the way to go. The problem is it is hard to find. And you need antiemetics.

hard to find? A is choice #1...
antiemetics? ebay, or such... travel to Mexico and get yours

 

[hegesias]

I don't have the contact of A yet. I'm waiting to get it and buy.

 

[dandan]

I don't have the contact of A yet. I'm waiting to get it and buy.

you send him email? he usually takes a few days to respond

 

[hegesias]

What is his e-mail? Can you post it here?

 

[dandan]

??? you dont have it??
I dont know if its postable, let me ... go to my protonmail and get it, ill PM it to you if possible
I couldnt see PM available, I dunno if sending his email is forbidden...

 

[ihatepain]

Best method would be to not kill yourself.

But Nembutal is #2

For me, staying alive is the worst thing I can do. I have always hated living and I always will.

If you haven´t already seen them, this is a good start for some to entirely reject N after purchase (under which I);

*most will argue, it isn´t that bad. In that regard I feel an alien. I don´t wanna feel locked-up or locked-in while dying.




Drinking starts at minute 15 below;

I have watched these videos before. And I don't think a person that is unconscious can feel anything thus the process will be painless.
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I used to think so, years ago. But the more I learned about people who'd actually taken N, the less I wanted it for myself.

Why??

I am anti-suicidal, yet I want to KMS. I respect people's choices to end their lives, but I want them to continue fighting the pain because it genuinely saddens me when they lost all will to live, given their circumstances...I guess it's just my depression: I don't like having this much empathy. I guess I'm just being selfish.

I don't want to continue fighting the pain. I hate pain. Pain is a bad thing.

Unfortunately it seems that the dying process is nothing but peaceful. I wish I own a gun. But N is my only option.

Why did you say "unfortunately" ? Do you mean that you want a death that is not peaceful?

 

[uiop]

Thanks for elaborating. I didn't mean at all to imply you're selfish. I don't think that at all. And I do understand the ambivalence of being pro-rights and not wanting those we come to care about to be hopeless or gone. I was questioning because I read, "Best method would be to not kill yourself" and wondered why dying (assuming a method someone felt was ideal for them) would be worse than being alive. I'm looking forward to being dead as I won't have any struggles anymore--at least I think so. And I sincerely regret having been born, even given the few moments of pleasure I had while alive. Best to you.

For me, staying alive is the worst thing I can do. I have always hated living and I always will.

I don't want to continue fighting the pain. I hate pain. Pain is a bad thing.

I don't want to wish death on anyone on this forum. There are worse people in this world who don't deserve to live, and I cannot fathom why the world would be so cruel as to put you guys through all this misery. I really want to vent/rant right now, but I'll withhold it lol.

I know I've said this many times in my posts, even to the point that it gets annoying, but please if you do consider suicide, make sure it's a rational decision.

 

[ihatepain]

I don't want to wish death on anyone on this forum. There are worse people in this world who don't deserve to live, and I cannot fathom why the world would be so cruel as to put you guys through all this misery. I really want to vent/rant right now, but I'll withhold it lol.

I know I've said this many times in my posts, even to the point that it gets annoying, but please if you do consider suicide, make sure it's a rational decision.

It will be a very rational decision for me. I objectively want to do it. I don't act on impulse.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

It will be a very rational decision for me. I objectively want to do it. I don't act on impulse.

Exactly.

 

[uiop]

It will be a very rational decision for me. I objectively want to do it. I don't act on impulse.

Best wishes then, friend.

 

[Umbra]

2nd only to shotgun

 

[ihatepain]

Best wishes then, friend.

Thank you.

 

[martha]

*most will argue, it isn´t that bad. In that regard I feel an alien. I don´t wanna feel locked-up or locked-in while dying.

concerning the vids, sorry about saying this, but I find this Erica from Exit (or Dignitas?) a really ghastly appearance.
She ´s tight on the chocolates, too.
I`d rather gulp the bottle down on my own, than having her as a last sight on my pillowcase.

 

[dandan]

Our friend maria from here left years ago with N.
We used to talk over the phone, she learned I went with TRT even with N in the fridge, testosterone did the trick about not wishing to die, however I'm having a little rough time living because I've already lost so much!!! Like now I have to work I lost the economic chance of living without a job!!! Damm , and I'm not the best employee

on one of those days I might go drink my past due N, couple years old, I won't open the black box until I intend to use it... I stored it in a black box, taped in the fridge


Still, TRT or testosterone and Dianabol*(periodically) is doing the trick to not CTB and be alright.

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes, it is my ideal way to die. From what I have heard it seems to be the most peaceful way to exit. I want a death that is just like falling into a deep sleep. We all deserve a exit like this. Nobody should have to resort to painful or traumatic methods.

 

[dandan]

I wish I could get another bottle, Mexican pharmacy are not selling anymore, not the ones I know.

 

[RainAndSadness]

Yeah it's indeed peaceful, sadly it's also the most difficult method to obtain. Isn't it ironic that humans were capable of creating the best way out of this existential nightmare, this biological mechanism that keeps us alive, a completely peaceful transition out of this life into whatever comes next yet we do everything humanely possible to make it as difficult as possible for people to obtain this drug? I think that's really tragic. Think about it. All we want is a peaceful way out, and this method is out there but for most people... simply out of reach, forever. I think people deserve access to this drug because unlike many other methods, it secures a peaceful way out and that's the quintessence of the right to die. It should be a human right.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Dying painlessly in your sleep, sounds like the best to me