Is it difficult to die from oral opiates

[Sourdough]

If I were able to secure a large amount of oral opiates, would these be sufficient for an overdose or would my body just throw them up if I took them all? Would taking other downers increase the chances of death or would this be counterintuitive by making me more likely to throw up? Alcohol plus benzos plus opiates seems like it could be good

 

[DeadManLiving]

Yes, especially the isoetazines. If you don't have a tolerance then insuffating one line will kill, most certainly in combination with benzos and absolutely in combination with alcohol.

The nausea is only something that first time users have. If you dabble with fent or opioids for a few weeks, it kind of goes away and extincts. Putting the powder in eccentric coated capsules to ensure they pass the stomach and only burst deep in the lower intestine where vomiting is not possible is the obvious way to prevent regurgitation. I will warn you though, as a previous attemptor, that the amount of euphoria will scare you to death. You'll be hit with this wave of pleasure that is so intense and insane (I ejaculated too, unexpectedly) and became exponentially and overwhelmingly unbearable until I blacked out. And then I woke up with EMS all over rescuing, I don't want to talk about that part rn.

To get to the point, yes but prepare to die in a supersonic pleasure wave, just don't be dumb and get addicted and turn into a degenerate unless of course you want to, but fair warning as an unintended consequence if the objective goes from a death to dabbling.

 

[mabel]

its definitely an easy thing to die from an od considering how many addicts do it accidently

it would also be a VERY peaceful death i imagine with no pain and a very pleasurable high for those final moments

 

[Meditation guide]

If I were able to secure a large amount of oral opiates, would these be sufficient for an overdose or would my body just throw them up if I took them all? Would taking other downers increase the chances of death or would this be counterintuitive by making me more likely to throw up? Alcohol plus benzos plus opiates seems like it could be good

I understand fentanyl is extremely fatal, so I was wondering what specific opiates you have or can get.

 

[mortuarymary]

The fentanyl deaths are very high and extremely peaceful.

 

[Meditation guide]

There are at least two videos on youtube showing policemen who have accidentally handled fentanyl and are about to die just from touching it.

 

[mortuarymary]

Only ever tried codeine and paracetamol and I'm still here. I threw it all up then spent 6 weeks in MH

 

[TAW122]

I think any drug that is taken orally except for certain ones mentioned in the PPeH and/or otherwise well known (e.g. Fentanyl, N, H, etc.) won't be as reliable as one thinks. It also requires large amounts of said drug to be able to CTB reliably especially other opiates because the bioavailability of said drug(s) is rather poor when taken orally versus intravenously. I think @Rhizomorph1 had a megathread and multiple threads regarding using drugs to CTB.

 

[Rhizomorph1]

I think any drug that is taken orally except for certain ones mentioned in the PPeH and/or otherwise well known (e.g. Fentanyl, N, H, etc.) won't be as reliable as one thinks. It also requires large amounts of said drug to be able to CTB reliably especially other opiates because the bioavailability of said drug(s) is rather poor when taken orally versus intravenously. I think @Rhizomorph1 had a megathread and multiple threads regarding using drugs to CTB.

Opioid megathread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/opioid-megathread-overview.138948/#post-2216485

Reliability of opioids is only moderate given substantial variably in personal responses to the drugs and the impurity/contamination of street drugs. It's not totally unreliable like many other drugs, but there are definitely far more reliable and lower risk options.

 

[rotciv]

Protonitazepyne and Etomethazene are the most difunded. Just take some pure lines and you gonna be off.

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

@DeadManLiving could you show me how to put powder into enteric coating? Thanks in advance

 

[rotciv]

it just depends on the opioids, dose and purity.

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

it just depends on the opioids, dose and purity.

would you say 250mg of isotonitazene is good?

 

[escape_from_hell]

I will warn you though, as a previous attemptor, that the amount of euphoria will scare you to death. You'll be hit with this wave of pleasure that is so intense and insane (I ejaculated too, unexpectedly) and became exponentially and overwhelmingly unbearable until I blacked out. And then I woke up with EMS all over rescuing, I don't want to talk about that part rn.

To get to the point, yes but prepare to die in a supersonic pleasure wave, just don't be dumb and get addicted and turn into a degenerate unless of course you want to, but fair warning as an unintended consequence if the objective goes from a death to dabbling.

Hi, can you describe more the overdose experience? Is it just such an unbelievable wave that it is dissociating?
Like, can one 'surrender' to the joy and drift off in bliss, or is it just such an unreal euphoria that it becomes disturbing and you are alert to everything going on?

Or is there a big risk that the joy enhances survival instinct and prompts one to call for help so that a life of drug addiction can be entertained? If you just eventually black out I guess all is well as long as we are somewhere private with no means of communication.
Still sounds better than many methods, including SN.

If you do decide to CTB once and for all, would it be your go-to method?

 

[UKscotty]

Drinking anything is a bad idea, could vomit it back up.

That's why euthanasia and capital punishment use IV pentobarbital.

 

[rotciv]

would you say 250mg of isotonitazene is good?

Yes, very good. but I would suggest another route than oral.

 

[LaughingGoat]

Yes, very good. but I would suggest another route than oral.

Agreed, trying to ctb through overdose is asking for failure. Below is a link to a study with a very large sample size which shows how poorly drug overdose (including opiods) is as a successful method.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7090840/
If just skimming, look at Table 1 & 2 and the Results for breakdown of success rates.

 

[rotciv]

Agreed, trying to ctb through overdose is asking for failure. Below is a link to a study with a very large sample size which shows how poorly drug overdose (including opiods) is as a successful method.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7090840/
If just skimming, look at Table 1 & 2 and the Results for breakdown of success rates.

Only 5% is successful wow but I can see why.
Tricyclic antidepressants and a small margin of opioids (not via oral) are the reliable ones that most of people can get.
99% of those who try may not even be informed about the lethality of the substances.

That's why I thank God this forum exists, today I know how to leave without pain and with a very small margin for failure.

 

[Konjac]

i've tried large amounts of codiene phosphate, it's very unpleasant and takes a while. so it's likely you'll either be found and taken to hospital, or take yourself from the stomach pains. when you think you've run out of things to vomit up, there's always more where it came from and after an OD it will keep coming for a while. it gave me metabolic acidosis which probably could've done the trick without treatment, after 20 30mg tablets i was quite fucked for the next few days, but likely would've needed much more for reliable results. can't imagine how unpleasant it would be. a fuckton of strong IV opiates pushed in all at once is probably more like it.

 

[LaughingGoat]

Only 5% is successful wow but I can see why.
Tricyclic antidepressants and a small margin of opioids are the reliable ones that most of people can get.
99% of those who try may not even be informed about the lethality of the substances.

That's why I thank God this forum exists, today I know how to leave without pain and with a very small margin for failure.

Yeah I do some work with the homeless population in my city and you see plenty of people who have overdosed on heroin and fentanyl multiple times and survived, so even with their relatively high rates, it's still a shit method.

Definitely, this forum is a treasure-trove of useful information.

 

[rotciv]

i've tried large amounts of codiene phosphate, it's very unpleasant and takes a while. so it's likely you'll either be found and taken to hospital, or take yourself from the stomach pains. when you think you've run out of things to vomit up, there's always more where it came from and after an OD it will keep coming for a while. it gave me metabolic acidosis which probably could've done the trick without treatment, after 20 30mg tablets i was quite fucked for the next few days, but likely would've needed much more for reliable results. can't imagine how unpleasant it would be. a fuckton of strong IV opiates pushed in all at once is probably more like it.

glad you mentioned codeine phosphate, after doing some research it appears that it is more deadly than oxycodone for example.

The problem with opioids is the induction of vomiting they cause, and the time it takes for them to work orally.

Didn't you feel some well-being aka "high" in the process?

Yeah I do some work with the homeless population in my city and you see plenty of people who have overdosed on heroin and fentanyl multiple times and survived, so even with their relatively high rates, it's still a shit method.

Definitely, this forum is a treasure-trove of useful information.

You are much more likely to survive an unpremeditated fentanyl overdose than a premeditated and well-studied one.

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

Agreed, trying to ctb through overdose is asking for failure. Below is a link to a study with a very large sample size which shows how poorly drug overdose (including opiods) is as a successful method.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7090840/
If just skimming, look at Table 1 & 2 and the Results for breakdown of success rates.

well that sucks but not much I can do eh, ik oral is mid but even after reading psychonaut wiki guide on injection it seems too hard. Maybe I'm being a little "lazy" but the steps for injecting are so complicated sigh if only it was simpler, how on earth homeless people manage to pull it off is beyond me

 

[LaughingGoat]

You are much more likely to survive an unpremeditated fentanyl overdose than a premeditated and well-studied one.

For sure, but even medical euthanasia/assisted suicide fails is not completely uncommon.

well that sucks but not much I can do eh, ik oral is mid but even after reading psychonaut wiki guide on injection it seems too hard. Maybe I'm being a little "lazy" but the steps for injecting are so complicated sigh if only it was simpler, how on earth homeless people manage to pull it off is beyond me

Have you looked at more efficacious methods?

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

Have you looked at more efficacious methods?

Yeah but I'd strongly prefer to have a pleasurable death, life is miserable enough as is why should my death be the same

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

would you say 250mg of isotonitazene is good?

Yes. Is it powder? Snorting a line of that will kill you if it's pure. Definitely.

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

Yes. Is it powder? Snorting a line of that will kill you if it's pure. Definitely.

Do you know where I could learn how to snort?

 

[rotciv]

Do you know where I could learn how to snort?

You can find tutoriais on YouTube.

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

actually it turns out snorting nitazenes isn't that effective because they're not water soluble. Fucking me then I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place with IV and oral

 

[rotciv]

actually it turns out snorting nitazenes isn't that effective because they're not water soluble. Fucking me then I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place with IV and oral

Dissolved in DMSO (and applied to the skin) or boofing/rectal administration.

 

[escape_from_hell]

If I get my hand on these hardcore RC opioids I will be boofing first while drunk and high on benzos and then snort as well. Or is that risky?