Is 135 ft enough?

[harriet3456]

me? no i can't. Do you actually think you can ?

I definitely think I could, that's why I was asking. I35lbf active. I think getting my feet in the chain link fence would be the hardest part. If I was wearing boots it might be a problem, runners I'm pretty sure would fit in that fence. As for the actual barrier I'd think it be pretty easy as the holes are bigger.

 

[harriet3456]

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Someone who is in decent physical condition could climb that like a playground feature. Someone who isn't could snip out an opening to fit through with wire cutters before anyone knew what was going on...literally in seconds. These things are preventatives for people attempting randomly without forethought...not means to stop the determined.

That's what I was thinking. But of course that makes a lot of sense though. Thanks for the reply!

 

[OkTotti]

Someone who is in decent physical condition could climb that like a playground feature. Someone who isn't could snip out an opening to fit through with wire cutters before anyone knew what was going on...literally in seconds. These things are preventatives for people attempting randomly without forethought...not means to stop the determined.

I don't read any suicides from the GWB since they put the measures up. It used to be something like once a month before they put the fences up...

 

[Othermind]

I kind of get the feeling that a lot of users here kind of highball the height you have to jump from to ctb. I get it, better safe than sorry and all that, but I routinely see people post stuff like "don't even consider anything below 100m!" which just seems ludicrous to me.
But I might well be wrong, can you link me some studies about the fatality rates of suicide by jumps?

 

[Sanguinius]

I kind of get the feeling that a lot of users here kind of highball the height you have to jump from to ctb. I get it, better safe than sorry and all that, but I routinely see people post stuff like "don't even consider anything below 100m!" which just seems ludicrous to me.
But I might well be wrong, can you link me some studies about the fatality rates of suicide by jumps?

I think it's fucking suicide and it should work 100% sure and be painless. Which is nearly guaranted above 100m.
If you jump from lower, it will take minutes to hours to die.
You can surely try it with lower ones - but I think, the higher the better. And if you want to die painless and surely, I would recommend at least 100m.

(...) N doses were 6g when I first heard about it...now its 2-3x more. (...) Nothing works 100% and people have fallen from airplanes and lived... (...)

It should work 100%. And I think, over the years, some have survived the 6g so they say we habe to use more.
If you land on your feet, you will survive most hights.
And it doesn't matter if it is 200m or 600m or 111000m, because the speed isn't proportionale to the hight. Once you have reached your maximal speed, which would be around 220 km/h, you can't get faster... 160 km/h (~140m) would be suddenly dead.
Source (gernan):
https://www.voy.com/228518/11559.html

 

[Arak]

I would say post #66 of https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...to-crunch-the-numbers.5383/page-2#post-136418

But the image of the pages have disappeared !

Geo Stone's book, see resources. recommended 150 metres at least, preferably more, do not land on feet.

 

[color_me_gone]

All anyone can do is try their best

If I were jumping (not my method of choice), I certainly would want it to be as effective as possible, as I would want to linger even a few minutes in that kind of agony.

I got an idea for the lyft - if you were to start screaming STOP, STOP, STOP, at the top of your lungs, without giving any reason, the driver would surely stop, thinking maybe it was some kind of emergency. As soon as he slows down enough to where you think you can jump out, go ahead and do it. Leave the fare on the seat, when you leave, so he doesn't get stiffed. He is unlike to chase after you, cause his vehicle will block traffic. So then you are good to go.

 

[OkTotti]

If I were jumping (not my method of choice), I certainly would want it to be as effective as possible, as I would want to linger even a few minutes in that kind of agony.

I got an idea for the lyft - if you were to start screaming STOP, STOP, STOP, at the top of your lungs, without giving any reason, the driver would surely stop, thinking maybe it was some kind of emergency. As soon as he slows down enough to where you think you can jump out, go ahead and do it. Leave the fare on the seat, when you leave, so he doesn't get stiffed. He is unlike to chase after you, cause his vehicle will block traffic. So then you are good to go.

Why would you put that guilt on the driver? Seems like real shitty thing to do..
and it sounds like you never taken lyft/uber before, there is no money exchange involved....

 

[color_me_gone]

Why would you put that guilt on the driver? Seems like real shitty thing to do..
and it sounds like you never taken lyft/uber before, there is no money exchange involved....

You are right, I assumed lyft was British for Taxi, I didn't know it was uber. How is the driver going to know what you are going to do? He'll just assume he had a crazy person. Everybody gets crazy once in a while.

 

[OkTotti]

You are right, I assumed lyft was British for Taxi, I didn't know it was uber. How is the driver going to know what you are going to do? He'll just assume he had a crazy person. Everybody gets crazy once in a while.

are you being serious here? It will be pretty obvious that the driver will know if a passenger of his jumped off a bridge....

 

[color_me_gone]

are you being serious here?

I really don't know why you want to beat this to death, but here is the way I see it - the uber driver is in a lane of moving traffic. The screaming to stop with such urgency makes him think maybe he hit somebody, so he slows down to stop. As soon as the car is going slow enough, you jump out of the car. You not going to immediately jump off the bridge, because you can't just jump anywhere off VNB. Meanwhile, he is holding up a line of traffic, you can walk in the opposite direction of his travel. He will not be able to back up, and he will not be able to hold up traffic very long, because, come-on, this is NYC, the minute he even applies the brakes, the people behind him will all be laying on their horns. So ya, kinda shitty thing to do making him stop for a moment, but he is not going to be watching you just off the bridge.

 

[OkTotti]

I really don't know why you want to beat this to death, but here is the way I see it - the uber driver is in a lane of moving traffic. The screaming to stop with such urgency makes him think maybe he hit somebody, so he slows down to stop. As soon as the car is going slow enough, you jump out of the car. You not going to immediately jump off the bridge, because you can't just jump anywhere off VNB. Meanwhile, he is holding up a line of traffic, you can walk in the opposite direction of his travel. He will not be able to back up, and he will not be able to hold up traffic very long, because, come-on, this is NYC, the minute he even applies the brakes, the people behind him will all be laying on their horns. So ya, kinda shitty thing to do making him stop for a moment, but he is not going to be watching you just off the bridge.

well if you're Ok with putting that guilt onto the driver this will work.... the driver will eventually know BTW even with your scenario, Uber/Lyft have all your information and it's only a matter of time they get that information back to the driver when the family/authorities asks questions, which they will...

 

[color_me_gone]

which they will

OK, you win.

 

[Othermind]

I would say post #66 of https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...to-crunch-the-numbers.5383/page-2#post-136418

But the image of the pages have disappeared !

Geo Stone's book, see resources. recommended 150 metres at least, preferably more, do not land on feet.

150 feet which is 45 meters. Not even a third of that.

 

[Arak]

@Othermind ,

True. It looks like I was wrong ? 70 metres is a speed of 119 kph. I'm not sure about the reliability of falling at that speed ... Should break or splinter bones, but near 100 % lethal ? There is the 'rescue' factor.

Weight/build/position etc. would also matter. I'm not at my best now. Need I revise my though about falling ? Unfortunately there is nothing that has an altitiude of at least 100 metres within a radius of a few hundred kilometres that is accessible, for as far as I know. (my situation)

Just read that post of mine again(Geo Stone), and it's a bit more complicated.

 

[21Neberg]

@Othermind ,

True. It looks like I was wrong ? 70 metres is a speed of 119 kph. I'm not sure about the reliability of falling at that speed ... Should break or splinter bones, but near 100 % lethal ? There is the 'rescue' factor.

Weight/build/position etc. would also matter. I'm not at my best now. Need I revise my though about falling ? Unfortunately there is nothing that has an altitiude of at least 100 metres within a radius of a few hundred kilometres that is accessible, for as far as I know. (my situation)

Just read that post of mine again(Geo Stone), and it's a bit more complicated.

You don't have a 100% guarantee that you'll CTB by jumping from 79 metres. I've read on this forum that at least a 100 metres will be lethal for sure. Maybe you should try to land head first?

 

[Arak]

@21Neberg, good luck with that ... try controlling such a fall.

 

[21Neberg]

@21Neberg, good luck with that ... try controlling such a fall.

I'm sorry. I simply do not know. I have never jumped off a bridge, after all.