Inviting Anyone to Contributing to my Manifesto

[ljyip]

Currently considering to write a manifesto that outlines my grievances against society and its beliefs on suicide.

I have barely started, but at least it's better than nothing.

I will not send it publicly, but I will print out the final copy of the manifesto and store it in my corpse.

Here is how I plan to outline my manifesto:

• How society views suicide and contrast with the definition of life
• Systemic laws against suicide (only focus on western area)
• Examples of real oppression against suicidal people
• Involuntary Commitment
• How psychology as one of the sciences prevent suicide
• How we are adapting in the present
• Proposed changes
• Reconditioning society – Acceptance (Reform of education/nurturing?)
• Why I have a radical stance
• How I felt writing this manifesto
• Goodbye

If you want to help some contribution, you may on this google doc (only on suggesting mode for the mean time): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1xstMhmiQXftbIkCPNyTV9KNTjsO_lFnW9ILQPnVDw/edit?usp=sharing

 

[TAW122]

I have some things to add and they are in regards to allowing assisted suicide and/or voluntary euthanasia for people who are suffering through a long period of time. There has to be an established criteria for the amount of suffering to be immense, but so far, society has yet to come to terms to allow voluntary euthanasia for those that are suffering physically, let alone psychologically.

Then my other contribution is that we must abolish involuntary commitment, especially for people who are not a threat to others, but only themselves (if they are a threat to others, then it becomes more/less a legal issue, in which the criminal justice system would be involved). Involuntary commitment has done far more harm to people than people who willing (or voluntarily) seek help and treatment. By forcing 'help' on people who don't want it, it only exacerbates their situation. For instance, in the US, what involuntary commitment has done has only made the patient's life worse. First off, by forcing help on the people who don't wish to be helped, it only deters them from seeking it, then to be given prisoner treatment (or treated like an animal or subhuman), and subsequently billed (oftenly in thousands of US dollars) for services in which the patient never consented to is barbaric and immoral. If anything, it only incentivizes the hopeless to hide their pain even more and potentially even drive them to "actual" suicide.

 

[FreedomInDeath]

Why would the criminal justice system be involved in someone who has mental illness/emotional problems and needs treatment? But I agree that people who are only suicidal should not be forced into commitments or the equivilent.

 

[ljyip]

I have some things to add and they are in regards to allowing assisted suicide and/or voluntary euthanasia for people who are suffering through a long period of time. There has to be an established criteria for the amount of suffering to be immense, but so far, society has yet to come to terms to allow voluntary euthanasia for those that are suffering physically, let alone psychologically.

Then my other contribution is that we must abolish involuntary commitment, especially for people who are not a threat to others, but only themselves (if they are a threat to others, then it becomes more/less a legal issue, in which the criminal justice system would be involved). Involuntary commitment has done far more harm to people than people who willing (or voluntarily) seek help and treatment. By forcing 'help' on people who don't want it, it only exacerbates their situation. For instance, in the US, what involuntary commitment has done has only made the patient's life worse. First off, by forcing help on the people who don't wish to be helped, it only deters them from seeking it, then to be given prisoner treatment (or treated like an animal or subhuman), and subsequently billed (oftenly in thousands of US dollars) for services in which the patient never consented to is barbaric and immoral. If anything, it only incentivizes the hopeless to hide their pain even more and potentially even drive them to "actual" suicide.

I completely agree with you and want my manifesto to heavily emphasize how involuntary commitment completely strips our freedom in deciding how we pursue our life (haven't gotten to that part yet). No matter how you decide how you live your life, everyone will pass away eventually, but I just want the option to end life become available as just a simple take on life and uncensored. If one is awaiting on trial, that's more of a different issue, but once a person is found guilty in the justice system, I would also support the avaliability of a painless death penalty, no matter how severe the crime is.

Why would the criminal justice system be involved in someone who has mental illness/emotional problems and needs treatment? But I agree that people who are only suicidal should not be forced into commitments or the equivilent.

I get what you say; of course the government can't do anything to you once you die. But I'd also worry if my friends who knew about my suicide beforehand are tried for assisted suicide or failing their duty to call assistance, even if they do absolutely nothing.

In short, my manifesto aims to put the focus on how society treats people with suicidal tendencies; not necessarily too much into the legal system.

Edit: There is also the case of people who do drugs to cope with their depression and they are found guilty and put into rehab. However, once they've completed rehab, they are still seen by society as a drug addict and still have their past criminal record with them, denying them jobs. Even though the justice system intends to save and treat people who try drugs, society still has consequences for them though.

 

[Pan]

Remember that everyone in this forum is family and linked by a common cause

 

[Wayfaerer]

I think as a bare minimum, suicidal people who are involuntarily committed should only be held with other suicidal people in a separate ward from legitimate lunatics (like the kind who watch you sleep). What we have today is so primitive it's disgusting.

 

[ljyip]

Remember that everyone in this forum is family and linked by a common cause

Yes. I want to hear everyone's grievances and ensure that if society gets our message, all of our concerns are expressed. I totally understand.

I think as a bare minimum, suicidal people who are involuntarily committed should only be held with other suicidal people in a separate ward from legitimate lunatics (like the kind who watch you sleep). What we have today is so primitive it's disgusting.

Agreed. My manifesto is going for a more radical approach, but I hear your concerns. Like what's the point of rehabilitation if they are rounded up together under one umbrella term that is completely inaccurate of them?