Improving lethality of Nembutal

[WayOut]

Thanks, this has made me a bit calmer

That's good.

Now, I don't want to worry you, but when you have your piece of toast and cup of tea a couple of hours before, don't make the mistake of adding a scrape of butter and a morsel of marmalade. That will ruin everything.

 

[Deleted member 4993]

One comment for those with concerns about cross tolerance for any reason. If you are taking a marginal dose, this may come into play. However, 12+gm is a massive od. It's literally overkill. Alcohol history or benzos will give you some tolerance to N, sure, but that's at the level that if you were taking the old fashioned therapeutic dose to help you sleep, you'd probably have to double or triple it. So 3 x 100 mg tabs instead of 1. Taking 12 gms is not like that. It WILL work. The only difference is it make take a couple of hours, rather than the usual 45 or so minutes.

Totally correct @WayOut

 

[JustAboutDone]

That's good.

Now, I don't want to worry you, but when you have your piece of toast and cup of tea a couple of hours before, don't make the mistake of adding a scrape of butter and a morsel of marmalade. That will ruin everything.

Haaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: and I was just about to apologise to @OfficerK for my childish outburst of giggling and you go and do this and set me off again

 

[therhydler]

That's good.

Now, I don't want to worry you, but when you have your piece of toast and cup of tea a couple of hours before, don't make the mistake of adding a scrape of butter and a morsel of marmalade. That will ruin everything.

Gosh thank you for warning me. Do you think the bread has to be toasted? I prefer it soft, but im not willing to take any risks. Thanks for your help.

 

[Jupiter]

Gosh thank you for warning me. Do you think the bread has to be toasted? I prefer it soft, but im not willing to take any risks. Thanks for your help.

You can toast it but it has to be gluten free.

 

[WayOut]

Do you think the bread has to be toasted?

*really huge sigh*

Toast is toasted. Bread is not toasted. That's why it's called bread. PN's instructions specifically said toast. Not bread. What is wrong with you?

 

[JustAboutDone]

*really huge sigh*

Toast is toasted. Bread is not toasted. That's why it's called bread. PN's instructions specifically said toast. Not bread. What is wrong with you?

Am dying laughing. My tummy hurts now!!

You five are feral!!

 

[therhydler]

*really huge sigh*

Toast is toasted. Bread is not toasted. That's why it's called bread. PN's instructions specifically said toast. Not bread. What is wrong with you?

Thats a bit rude. You are going on my ignore list.

 

[WayOut]

Thats a bit rude. You are going on my ignore list.

Well then, I'm leaving in quite a huff. I'm going back to the pets thread. They're Much Nicer there.

 

[JustAboutDone]

Thats a bit rude. You are going on my ignore list.

@therhydler stop making me laugh!! I am still recovering from your post earlier about "drinking N, hanging yourself and jumping off a cliff at the same time" !!!! I need to add that to favourite quotes :-)

 

[Smilla]

One comment for those with concerns about cross tolerance for any reason. If you are taking a marginal dose, this may come into play. However, 12+gm is a massive od. It's literally overkill. Alcohol history or benzos will give you some tolerance to N, sure, but that's at the level that if you were taking the old fashioned therapeutic dose to help you sleep, you'd probably have to double or triple it. So 3 x 100 mg tabs instead of 1. Taking 12 gms is not like that. It WILL work. The only difference is it make take a couple of hours, rather than the usual 45 or so minutes.

How do you know that "the only difference is a couple of hours rather than the usual 45 minutes?"

Am sorry, but this is blatant and sloppy misinformation, unless you have medical citations to back up your claim because this stands in direct contradiction to the assisted dying guides advice, which was actually italicized for emphasis-"if one is an alcoholic, a heavy benzo user, or takes antipsychotics N should not be used unless one case cease using those substances for 4/6 weeks."

I'm not trying to be difficult but I'd like to know how you came to the conclusion that it's merely a matter of a couple hours difference vs risking a prolonged coma.

Higher dosing of drugs does not always override tolerance-this is counterintuitive to the layperson but well known to medical experts.

Saying it WILL work is dangerous; it MAY work but the assisted dying guides are cautious enough to warn aggressively that failure is a very real possibility.

 

[Sinbad]

@therhydler become my therapist Please!!! You will heal me in a heart beat.
Thanks for making me laugh out loud XD

 

[WayOut]

How do you know that "the only difference is a couple of hours rather than the usual 45 minutes?"

Am sorry, but this is blatant and sloppy misinformation, unless you have medical citations to back up your claim because this stands in direct contradiction to the assisted dying guides advice, which was actually italicized for emphasis-"if one is an alcoholic, a heavy benzo user, or takes antipsychotics N should not be used unless one case cease using those substances for 4/6 weeks."

I'm not trying to be difficult but I'd like to know how you came to the conclusion that it's merely a matter of a couple hours difference vs risking a prolonged coma.

Higher dosing of drugs does not always override tolerance-this is counterintuitive to the layperson but well known to medical experts.

Saying it WILL work is dangerous; it MAY work but the assisted dying guides are cautious enough to warn aggressively that failure is a very real possibility.

Sorry. You are quite correct. The "couple of hours" was a general indication, not meant as an exact timeframe. You must go with your own information. I was just trying to help.

 

[Smilla]

Sorry. You are quite correct. The "couple of hours" was a general indication, not meant as an exact timeframe. You must go with your own information. I was just trying to help.

No, I understand. I was very disappointed to find out I couldn't use N—but based on what I've learned it's not worth the risk for someone like me.

 

[Arak]

@OfficerK, @JustAboutDone , @Chinaski, @therhydler ,

All on ignore list. Just to be clear. This is about some basic antagonism towards me that started when I posted in a thread that another member had started about her experience of not just not receiving her 'N from A', but it likely (with A's admission?) not even having been shipped originally ! The thread was closed, it's still there.
I was more or less accused of being a (potential) scammer, being in a conspiracy to discredit A to promote selling fake N from Patrick, or D, X Y or Z !
If you are all so fine and set, then why are you still here ?

If we can be polite and respectful ? I appreciate on topic responses.

I've already invested in the N method. The question is about improving the odds. Doctors did mess me up, and it has lowered the chance of successful 'termination' with N.In retrospect, I could have used that third bottle.

 

[Arak]

@bigj75 , @DyingToCTB ,

It usually is as long as you follow the method properly. As in, antiemetic, not being found etc.

 

[bigj75]

@bigj75 , @DyingToCTB ,

It usually is as long as you follow the method properly. As in, antiemetic, not being found etc.

Ive greatly considered this method if my main method doesn't work. I won't do another attempt until 3 - 6 months from now.

 

[Arak]

I will try to read a bit more about Dilantin. I think it was also being described as potentially painful.

Anything else, has anyone considered other CNS depressants ? I was planning on adding a small to moderate amount of alcohol, that would also help with the taste.

 

[JustAboutDone]

God fuckin damnit

@therhydler - he can't hear you because we are being ignored. Though I'm not sure why as I certainly never accused him of being A, not A, sorry Patrick or scamming anyone. I am very confused.

 

[therhydler]

@therhydler - he can't hear you because we are being ignored. Though I'm not sure why as I certainly never accused him of being A, not A, sorry Patrick or scamming anyone. I am very confused.

yeah... a bit confused myself...

 

[JustAboutDone]

yeah... a bit confused myself...

I was going to ask if he'd tried switching from benzodiazepines straight to a different drug like zopiclone but I can't because he can't see me

 

[Deleted member 4993]

 

[littlelady774]

Have you tried switching from benzodiazepines straight to a different drug like zopiclone?

 

[Chinaski]

@OfficerK, @JustAboutDone , @Chinaski, @therhydler ,

All on ignore list. Just to be clear. This is about some basic antagonism towards me that started when I posted in a thread that another member had started about her experience of not just not receiving her 'N from A', but it likely (with A's admission?) not even having been shipped originally ! The thread was closed, it's still there.
I was more or less accused of being a (potential) scammer, being in a conspiracy to discredit A to promote selling fake N from Patrick, or D, X Y or Z !
If you are all so fine and set, then why are you still here ?

If we can be polite and respectful ? I appreciate on topic responses.

This is a complete misrepresentation of what occurred in that thread you're referring to, nobody accused or suggested that you are an N scammer. Nobody here has been outwardly antagonistic towards you on this thread either - you told the first person to offer a sensible answer with "you're on my ignore list, group dynamic etc".

You routinely ask the same questions and blanche at the simplicity of some of the answers. Yes, a 12g dose of N will kill you.
Yet here you are doing continuous research and concluding that Dignitas is fake:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/october-2018-vomiting-chapter.6919/#post-135550

Here you are ruling out pretty much every single method as unsuitable:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...th-near-100-certainty.4816/page-2#post-108675

And here you are asking the same questions you're essentially asking here, and getting sensible replies to, several months ago:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...tolerance-on-lethality-of-phenobarbital.5709/

All of your questions have been asked on here so many times that I'm really not sure what you can expect by repeatedly asking them, other than "switch methods".

 

[JustAboutDone]

@Gainax you are on my list of people who make me spontaneously burst out laughing

 

[JustAboutDone]

Drink N and then hang yourself, preferably over a cliff in case the rope snaps

I refer the honourable gentleman OP to this, excellent, solution provided by @therhydler - it really does seem FOOLPROOF.

 

[therhydler]

I refer the honourable gentleman OP to this, excellent, solution provided by @therhydler - it really does seem FOOLPROOF.

Just make sure the cliff is high enough.

 

[JustAboutDone]

Just make sure the cliff is high enough.

Lolllll!!!! Is there a megathread for that? Just so we can be really clear, or shall we go over it once more :-)

 

[Chinaski]

Just make sure the cliff is high enough.

*cue op presenting a newspaper article about a man who survived a 10000ft drop, thus ruling this method out for all time"

 

[Deleted member 4993]

With sharks below :-) failsafe