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Gaybonez

Gaybonez

vegan jesus
Nov 30, 2020
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People will say one thing but turn on you the second you open up to them. They'll spread roomers or just back-out with an excuse like 'you're to negative so I don't want to be your friend." Yeah, REAL friend there. The chances are if they say something like that they never were your friend. REAL friends say, "we'll get through this" or "I respect your choice" or it doesn't even have to be words; it can be actions like listening without judging, making you laugh, giving you space when you need it. or giving you food/a gift.

This is sad but true most people won't stick around. they think more and more about themselves and society frowns upon venting, calling it "negative" and "negative" people are widely hated, even if they're suicidal or just think differently. I'm sorry for people's attitudes towards venting, they say we all need a safe place and then the second you vent they just use "you're too negative" as an excuse to not help. They're so shallow, its depressing. So yeah, I hate people.
This is dogshit advice. Stop alienating yourself from others. A lot of people here are in ruts and need all the help they can get. Nobody will completely agree with you.
 
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WatermelonMel

WatermelonMel

Melon Master
Aug 19, 2019
408
This is dogshit advice. Stop alienating yourself from others.
Eh, it's probably not such a bad idea to just alienate from the shit human race as a whole. Everyone can make their own decisions.
 
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Rogue Proxy

Rogue Proxy

Enlightened
Sep 12, 2021
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Eh, it's probably not such a bad idea to just alienate from the shit human race as a whole. Everyone can make their own decisions.
That goes double for anyone who experiences little to no pleasure in human interactions.
 
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Hurt

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Nov 13, 2020
905
"You can talk to me whenever you want" (Never replies any message)
 
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Midgardsorm

Midgardsorm

Paragon
Apr 28, 2020
917
What I heard most when I used to say anything suicidal:

"Whoever does this go to the hell !"
"That's cowardice."
"I think you should try meditation"
"There are people in worse situations"
 
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mentalhealthfighter

mentalhealthfighter

Lets win together
Jun 15, 2021
362
What I heard most when I used to say anything suicidal:

"Whoever does this go to the hell !"
"That's cowardice."
"I think you should try meditation"
"There are people in worse situations"
Does meditation help in any way?
 
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A few of these aren't so terrible though...some people actually believe in others...even need it just to survive themselves or would also CTB. It's almost like life is one giant ponzi scheme.
 
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Midgardsorm

Midgardsorm

Paragon
Apr 28, 2020
917
Does meditation help in any way?
imo, No.

It can help. If you want to spend all your time meditating. For me it's a temporary remedy with a very subtle effect that works only while you're at it. As soon you stop, everything comes back.

Maybe with more training.
Even so, to me, not everyone adapts to meditation. It simply won't work.
 
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Hurt

Paragon
Nov 13, 2020
905
What I heard most when I used to say anything suicidal:

"Whoever does this go to the hell !"
"That's cowardice."
"I think you should try meditation"
"There are people in worse situations"
You are missing "Selfish act"
 
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A_miStake_of_NATURE

A_miStake_of_NATURE

I wish no one had to CTB..........
Aug 14, 2020
703
I feel strange and confused….. I do tell people here they can talk to me….. I really mean it. I can't be always helpful, but I'm trying to be understanding……
 
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Braindead Atheist

Braindead Atheist

Specialist
Oct 7, 2020
387
I don't know. "You can talk to me" and "You're amazing" are things I wish I was hearing. I do wish someone would say that to me and mean it. It could really mean the world. Instead I hear "You need professional help I can't provide" and "I can't deal with this too".
I get the point, just... if only.
Yeah I hear that shit all the time from my mom.
Excellent post. Thank you for pointing all of this out.

Yes, the same people who didn't want to - not couldn't, didn't want to - simply be there for you when you were in crisis - and a lot times, not all, but a lot of times those of us who are brought to suicide tend to be the sensitive, perceptive types who were there for these same people when they needed someone - will roll their eyes at your "weak" and "selfish" desire to leave this life (there is nothing "weak" about soldiering through what we have soldiered through and if we were that "selfish" we would have ended a long time ago but we "selfishly" kept going in order to avoid hurting the very people you are posting about), poison others against you and thereby making you feel all the more isolated with your anguish will want cry their tears and ring their hands in shock and sadness and wail, "Why oh why oh why didn't they reach out to me? They seemed fine, why oh why oh why didn't they at least give us some indication that something was wrong???".
Yeah why DIDN'T we reach out to them...oh yeah because they would just call us negative as an excuse to ditch us when we helped them through their hard time. Friendships are so one sided, sometimes I wonder if there are any real ones out there. Most ae super shallow because normal people don't suffer like us.
 
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Midgardsorm

Midgardsorm

Paragon
Apr 28, 2020
917
I feel strange and confused….. I do tell people here they can talk to me….. I really mean it. I can't be always helpful, but I'm trying to be understanding……
But that's why a lot of replies were saying that this shouldn't be on the list ^^

Oh you never told me that =(
 
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Braindead Atheist

Braindead Atheist

Specialist
Oct 7, 2020
387
What I heard most when I used to say anything suicidal:

"Whoever does this go to the hell !"
"That's cowardice."
"I think you should try meditation"
"There are people in worse situations"
i've heard the last one so many goddamn times..pisses me off people trying to minimize my problems. and give life time, it will get worse
I feel strange and confused….. I do tell people here they can talk to me….. I really mean it. I can't be always helpful, but I'm trying to be understanding……
this really just applies to people who aren't on thjs site. we've heard it all and mean things when we say them, thats why this wenbsite is so private, because people can't handle the truth
 
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Midgardsorm

Midgardsorm

Paragon
Apr 28, 2020
917
i've heard the last one so many goddamn times..pisses me off people trying to minimize my problems. and give life time, it will get worse
My family is PhD in doing that.

I have posted a very long thread here about this, but comparing people with depression to people literally without limbs.

It's was a post I did in another platform from a conversation I had with my parents, so I brought it here.
 
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A_miStake_of_NATURE

A_miStake_of_NATURE

I wish no one had to CTB..........
Aug 14, 2020
703
But that's why a lot of replies were saying that this shouldn't be on the list ^^

Oh you never told me that =(
And a lot of responses here say that it's absolutely correct, to steer clear from people like me, I guess?

awww. @Midgardsorm!! Of course, you can always vent/ talk to me, if you want to!! I'd love us to talk about anything!! :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:
I think, at this point, it just goes without saying.
 
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SleepDealer

SleepDealer

Your Imaginary Friend
Aug 13, 2021
138
I like the bingo comments. I demand SS platitude bingo night.
We'll make bingo cards out of these, someone can stream one of those "how to deal with suicidal thoughts" videos, stamp whenever the person in the video says something on the card, and the winners get free N. (You know, in my fantasy world where that is a reasonable prize.)
 
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Midgardsorm

Midgardsorm

Paragon
Apr 28, 2020
917
I like the bingo comments. I demand SS platitude bingo night.
We'll make bingo cards out of these, someone can stream one of those "how to deal with suicidal thoughts" videos, stamp whenever the person in the video says something on the card, and the winners get free N. (You know, in my fantasy world where that is a reasonable prize.)
There were people that already marked all options =(

But we can change the rules and make some other options, there is sure plenty bs that the pro lifers say.

Or we can do something like: Whoever hear this word wins a free N, or at least a rope with a slipknot manual.
And a lot of responses here say that it's absolutely correct, to steer clear from people like me, I guess?

awww. @Midgardsorm!! Of course, you can always vent/ talk to me, if you want to!! I'd love us to talk about anything!! :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:
I think, at this point, it just goes without saying.

I think it's mostly the people who says this and then never replies or just get upset when we try to talk.

It's what happened in my case. I found some people who said I could talk to then, but then their conversations were most the other options. ^^

Ohh Thank you ^^ I'll pm you soon
 
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Braindead Atheist

Braindead Atheist

Specialist
Oct 7, 2020
387
"You can talk to me whenever you want" (Never replies any message)
Right?!
I like the bingo comments. I demand SS platitude bingo night.
We'll make bingo cards out of these, someone can stream one of those "how to deal with suicidal thoughts" videos, stamp whenever the person in the video says something on the card, and the winners get free N. (You know, in my fantasy world where that is a reasonable prize.)
I wish I had N but I don't. but I did make a response cheat sheet for these
Eh, it's probably not such a bad idea to just alienate from the shit human race as a whole. Everyone can make their own decisions.
i'm killing myself and no one can stop me! When i can't do this new job i got i'm ending things!
 
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lifecouldbedream

lifecouldbedream

Student
Oct 8, 2021
144
It was painful reading it all at once.
"You can talk to me" is the nicest pro-lifer greet, but it isn't helpful.
Agreed, I feel like most of the time they just say that and then never actually talk to you, they expect you to talk to them. But it's not easy to do that.
 
TheHatedOne

TheHatedOne

Death is salvation
Sep 26, 2021
2,028
''Just go shower and go to gym and be more positive bro! It will go away I swear! Trust me bro!''

Or:

''Life is worth living broo because we have pizza and videogames!!!!''
 
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Rogue Proxy

Rogue Proxy

Enlightened
Sep 12, 2021
1,315
''Just go shower and go to gym and be more positive bro! It will go away I swear! Trust me bro!''

Or:

''Life is worth living broo because we have pizza and videogames!!!!''
Those brain dead bros can take all their showers, pizzas, video games, and gym equipment, and stuff them up their asses like Thanksgiving whales. Well, not their showers. They would unleash a sugar-coated shit tsunami to drown all the world's pessimists.
 
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Darkmoon Queen

Darkmoon Queen

Specialist
Apr 1, 2020
396
People will say one thing but turn on you the second you open up to them. They'll spread roomers or just back-out with an excuse like 'you're to negative so I don't want to be your friend."
Fuckin PREACH
 
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Gaybonez

Gaybonez

vegan jesus
Nov 30, 2020
208
Eh, it's probably not such a bad idea to just alienate from the shit human race as a whole. Everyone can make their own decisions.
Some people aren't as bad as you might think.
 
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eleanorhere

Member
Sep 6, 2021
64
I never had a real friend. Last one said that to me that I'm too negative then just abandoned me and used me left me all alone
 
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motyxia

motyxia

less than him
Oct 14, 2021
166
I'd tell someone to live for the companion animal depending on them, if there was one. That's about moral decency. Not much different to adopting a very young human child depending on you, then abandoning them to suffer (other than the human child probably grows up to develop rational thought that can help them learn to cope, but the other animal can't). Other animals aren't insentient decorations you keep around for a bit & throw away whenever you want. Suicidal people aren't complete victims that can't do bad things. They're still moral agents. Someone can stop talking to another who'd tell them that, but running away from someone telling them the truth & holding them accountable for such a serious thing isn't good & I strongly disagree with encouraging it. I get that it sucks to be forced to live, I have to stay alive for my bunny daughter, but this is what we sign up for when we adopt/rescue. We're not the victims in this situation, we need to stop acting like it.
 
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