Venting I'm so jealous of you Americans for being able to own guns.

[Outofoptions1]

Here in Canada, buying a gun is a very long, strenuous and tedious process. Gun owners isn't like in the US at all. Virtually nobody owns one.

I do believe that we as a society are safer partly due to our gun laws and culture, but God Damnit, I wish I was an American right now.

Gunshot to the head is my preferred method by a mile. If I had access to a gun, I'd have killed myself years ago. It's easy, extremely quick and relatively painless. Shotgun is better if you really want to make sure.

Anytime I see a post from an American here about struggling to find a method, I wonder, why not buy a gun? From what I understand it's relatively simple in most states if you don't have a felony. If anything, you can buy used or illegally. I imagine there's plenty of sources if you look hard enough.

 

[Kadaver]

My dad didn't even get his legally. Just bought one from a random dude. Idk how much he spent on it but a gun is just too violent for my taste, even if I had the money for it

 

[divinemistress36]

To violent Im afraid Id end up as that 1 percent that survives severely disfigured

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Hey, I'm an American and I have plenty of guns of all types, calibers, sizes, etc. I don't "plan" on using any of them for ctb. My method is CO. If something happens, like I have a heart attack or stroke, and I'm unable to do the CO method because of what's involved - setting up tent, getting charcoals going, etc, etc - and I feel I need to get out quickly, as long as I can get to a gun, then I'll use one. I prefer more of a peaceful method, one that knocks me out unconscious before death comes. Guns may be quick and all, but in my mind, they're just not peaceful.

 

[Subhumano]

gun is a nice way to end it

 

[SomewhatLoved]

I second this. When you apply for your license the RCMP (federal police, for non-Canadians reading) require you to have 3 references you have known for at least 3 years who can vouch for you that you are not a violent or mentally ill/suicidal person. This is to the best of my memory, might need to confirm number of references and how long they've known you. I'm socially isolated and I'm not even sure I have 3 people I've known for that long who I'm close enough to ask for a favour like this. Also, this past fall I decided to try and get better and I opened up about how i was feeling, so this method is pretty much impossible for me now :P Everyone close enough to act as a reference knows I'm suicidal and depressed/unwell.

I think the actual process itself is pretty straightforward, but kind of drawn out. I've heard it can take them a while to do reference checks and approve your application. For a standard/non-restricted license (which will buy you hunting rifles and shotguns) you pretty much just need to take a course and then pay an application fee. The problem for me (and probably others as well) is that it's out of reach for some of us. You can Google "Canada firearms PAL license reference questions" and lots of forum posts on Reddit and firearms-specific sites discuss the questions they ask people.

This would be my preferred method as well. Pop a few aspirin and shoot myself with a shotgun in the back of the throat. If it doesn't kill you immediately, it will pretty quickly. I figure if I was to do this I would stand in a river. Wouldn't be found and if it didn't kill me immediately I would at least get knocked unconscious and drown/bleed out.

 

[supremacyofdeath]

Depends on the state. Yeah it's nice to worn guns but some states actually don't let you buy one till 21. (9mm or .45 to the head was my choice till I found this out).

It is nice for suicide reasons but not nice for those people who choose to kill others unfortunately. Also then the second hardest part is trying to overcome SI when it's right there. Which will often times make it worse by making you feel worse because you couldn't pull the trigger.
But i totally understand the frustration OP.

 

[Olivie_]

Honestly, your right. In America it's easier to buy gun and weapons (hell, my boyfriend is buying one soon from his FRIEND) but that's not necessarily a good thing.

 

[CentreMid]

Fellow Canadian here. I totally feel you on this one. I don't mind the gun laws as a whole in terms of collective safety, but the whole process is really lengthy and annoying.

That being said, I'm starting the process to be able to qualify for a firearms license but there are already a lot of hoops I need to jump through first (doesn't help that I recently moved again and have to change my address on all of my documentation and whatnot...) because this will be my first time applying for the license. Not even gonna think about the gun itself until I get my documents figured out first.

If I can't get a gun fast enough, I'll stick with hanging, but I'm really hoping to get that license and a shotgun sooner rather than later.

 

[BrokenMindAndBody]

I live in a state with the most strict gun laws in the country. Fuck liberals. I dunno how they expect to fight Trump or whoever else when they're a bunch of pussy ass losers on guns. You might as well not be able to own a gun. If I was in the deep south I could just buy a gun off someone and that means I legally own it because the ownership is transferred to me. Here you need to pass all kinds of tests and background checks and be put on a registry. Criminals do gun violence here all the time because they don't do any of that shit.

Also you can't have that many bullets and hand guns are really expensive because they require certain modifications that gun makers don't really do from what I understand. The state government basically makes it very restrictive and expensive if you own a gun here. Not to mention if you've ever been to a psych ward you are absolutely fucked. Probably just seeing a psych doctor or taking meds too.

 

[hang in there]

Here in Canada, buying a gun is a very long, strenuous and tedious process. Gun owners isn't like in the US at all. Virtually nobody owns one.

I do believe that we as a society are safer partly due to our gun laws and culture, but God Damnit, I wish I was an American right now.

Gunshot to the head is my preferred method by a mile. If I had access to a gun, I'd have killed myself years ago. It's easy, extremely quick and relatively painless. Shotgun is better if you really want to make sure.

Anytime I see a post from an American here about struggling to find a method, I wonder, why not buy a gun? From what I understand it's relatively simple in most states if you don't have a felony. If anything, you can buy used or illegally. I imagine there's plenty of sources if you look hard enough.

Actually having the gun to do it doesn't really help. There's still just as much if not more survival instinct preventing you from using it, knowing it's so close and accessible. It complicates the picture in regard to when and where you will do it - I can just go in the backyard with a pillowcase over my head to hang myself without even bothering the neighbors, but in order to shoot myself I have to travel as far as I can, somehow ditch my vehicle, ensure identification will be impossible including the gun serial number, and find some place out in the middle of nowhere where no one will be bothered by a gunshot or find me right afterward. I do not want the last memory my family will have of me to be a horrifying, traumatic splattering of my skull that they have to close the casket for if they find my body. It would break them.
It sounds easy to just do it but I have watched too many videos where the family walks in after the bang and you can see them just break in half right then and there, life forever ruined for them. I don't want that to happen.
I have baby siblings that love me and every time I pick up my gun I remember this 911 call and the sound of her despair.

 

[FuneralCry]

I understand as I just wish for a quick, painless way to permanently cease existing as well, I wish for no more pain and no more suffering and I see so much cruelty in how the option of that is denied for me.

 

[Worndown]

Why are you jealous?
Down here guns seem to be our only source of freedom.
We randomly blast many people into freedom every day.

 

[Outofoptions1]

Why are you jealous?
Down here guns seem to be our only source of freedom.
We randomly blast many people into freedom every day.

Because I'm a coward and want to avoid as much pain and suffering during suicide as possible. I'll probably go by hanging, but even that is too painful/agonizing for me. I'm going to have to really try and push hard to achieve suicide by hanging.

With a gun, all it takes is one pull of the trigger and everything is over in less than a second.

 

[Forveleth]

Yeah, our kids get murdered at school and we get shot up for going to church or a concert or outside in general. Not even outside! Some of us get shot up in our houses. It is great!

 

[Andrew10]

If I had a gun years ago, I wouldn't have made it to 18

 

[HereWeGo!]

I totally agree with OP. In my fantasy, CTB by firearm is definitely my method of choice. Yes, CTB by firearm is pretty violent, but I think almost every easy accessible and quick method is pretty violent.

To violent Im afraid Id end up as that 1 percent that survives severely disfigured

I'm thinking like that about every single method. I really think I will be the person who survives really badly, that's probably one of the reasons why I'm still here.

 

[divinemistress36]

I totally agree with OP. In my fantasy, CTB by firearm is definitely my method of choice. Yes, CTB by firearm is pretty violent, but I think almost every easy accessible and quick method is pretty violent.


I'm thinking like that about every single method. I really think I will be the person who survives really badly, that's probably one of the reasons why I'm still here.

Same!

 

[SNastablesalt]

If I had a gun years ago, I wouldn't have made it to 18

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so true

Actually having the gun to do it doesn't really help. There's still just as much if not more survival instinct preventing you from using it, knowing it's so close and accessible. It complicates the picture in regard to when and where you will do it - I can just go in the backyard with a pillowcase over my head to hang myself without even bothering the neighbors, but in order to shoot myself I have to travel as far as I can, somehow ditch my vehicle, ensure identification will be impossible including the gun serial number, and find some place out in the middle of nowhere where no one will be bothered by a gunshot or find me right afterward. I do not want the last memory my family will have of me to be a horrifying, traumatic splattering of my skull that they have to close the casket for if they find my body. It would break them.
It sounds easy to just do it but I have watched too many videos where the family walks in after the bang and you can see them just break in half right then and there, life forever ruined for them. I don't want that to happen.
I have baby siblings that love me and every time I pick up my gun I remember this 911 call and the sound of her despair.

oh my god i think i found something that will stop me from ctb.. the pain in her voice omfg

 

[HereWeGo!]

If I had a gun years ago, I wouldn't have made it to 18

If I would have any good connections, I wouldn't got this far either. I'm to much of a "good boy" to know people who are handling guns

 

[Linda]

I guess we're all different. Some people don't like the idea of using a firearm to ctb, though there is no doubt that it is an effective method. I own a gun, but I would never use it for that purpose. If I ctb, I want to go out calmly and peacefully.

 

[allmylife]

If I would have any good connections, I wouldn't got this far either. I'm to much of a "good boy" to know people who are handling guns

How come you belive this method to be easier than others? I personally would never be able to pull the trigger.

 

[Cauliflour]

To violent Im afraid Id end up as that 1 percent that survives severely disfigured

Don't wanna come off as patronising, but if you were in that situation then why don't you just shoot again and try get it right this time?

 

[HereWeGo!]

I guess we're all different. Some people don't like the idea of using a firearm to ctb, though there is no doubt that it is an effective method. I own a gun, but I would never use it for that purpose. If I ctb, I want to go out calmly and peacefully.

I understand you. But don't you even considering your firearm as a back up method?

How come you belive this method to be easier than others? I personally would never be able to pull the trigger.

There are many reason why I consider firearm as my method of choice. Quick, lethal and you can do it almost everywhere and you can be alone. I think it's easier to pull the trigger than to step of a stool, jump down a heights or run in front of a train for example. But I guess I'm never going to feel how it feels to having a lethal gun in my hand in that kind of situation.
What would be your method of choice btw?

 

[divinemistress36]

Don't wanna come off as patronising, but if you were in that situation then why don't you just shoot again and try get it right this time?

You might end up to brain damaged to do that

 

[Cauliflour]

You might end up to brain damaged to do that

Oh shit you're right.

Fuck then...gotta pray euthanasia is slightly more liked that week.

 

[DoomCry]

It is a fascinating lethal method, very fast and painless, which unfortunately is forbidden in many parts of the world. The difficulty in finding a weapon depends precisely on its high lethality ... weapons are made to kill and their nature is so definitive as to make them a precious object. A trigger makes the difference between existence and non-existence in milliseconds, it gives you the shivers.

 

[hang in there]

I will reiterate, there is no way to make this easier on others if you do not think this through. I think the best example is, if you have ever seen it, Shuaiby's gunshot suicide livestream. He did try to make it easy on his family afterward by placing a large tarp as a backdrop for the mess, and ensuring the door was locked so his little siblings would not see him dead. But all of that meant nothing. His brains covered the ceiling much farther than the tarp could reach, and it was his mother minutes later who was the first to find him. She stood over the scene in absolute horror and shock and confusion for over 40 minutes, just looking back and forth at her dead child and the camera he filmed himself with, asking why, why. There was no explanation that could make it any better, although he had left a note to his family. His friends online watched it all helplessly and they cried the whole time, begging him to stop, begging him to believe they loved him, that he didn't have to do this. It's one of the most tragic videos I have seen and I watch it again every now and then just to ponder where he went wrong.
The only real way you could ever make it easy on others is to remove the possibility that they know you have died by a gun. That means going missing without any hint you are suicidal. That means ensuring you cannot be recognized and your loved ones will not be notified that you've been found dead. That means ensuring there will be no funeral.

 

[Linda]

I understand you. But don't you even considering your firearm as a back up method?

No.

 

[cait_sith]

To violent Im afraid Id end up as that 1 percent that survives severely disfigured

I would go somewhere secluded to do it. I don't think anyone of the shooting survivors called the ambulance themselves, it was always people probably Hearing the Gun Shot and immediately calling the cops/Hospital after the attempt. I think it gets very hard to fail if no one immediately intervenes. I think Gun method is one of the best there is but I can't get one.