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Daisy88_99

Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
Hi, I am back. Sorry, I know I said the previous post was my last. But I WILL document my experience on getting SN here in the hopes that it helps other people in my situation, who are 100% sure about CTB specifically using SN. The reason why I want to do this is so people know there is a easy way out, and I feel like if people are committed enough to find DSL using hints on this website then they are committed enough to CTB. I am just trying to keep my conscience clear as I don't anybody to CTB if they aren't 100% sure. Also, it's annoying how the government restricts easy methods so quickly and I felt victim to this as I wish I knew about SN when you could just order it on Amazon, which still amazes me. However, SN is a unique case as many people have pointed out it has genuine use cases and it's kinda hard to outlaw it like drugs. I believe the fact that it's almost never used to purposely harm other people also gives it a strong standing against laws. Despite this, it might eventually get even more restricted as it's popularity as a method grows and the government has no choice. My main reason for making more posts is so people realize the potential for this method despite some common obstacles that can be passed. As it took me lot of research to find out everything about SN and DSL because posts are fragmented, and people don't document their journey which I understand, but it makes it hard for new people to properly understand certain methods before the source or methods are gone. So I just wanna help those people.

Reasons SN Could be More Restricted

Another reason why I want to do this is because I believe getting SN will be extremely hard in the near future specifically in North America. I heard the laws are tightening in the USA and Canada will follow along and I believe it's even more strict in Canada. The fact that SN has many actually curing uses will probably not hold for much longer as it's already hard to get SN in NA if you don't have a proper business, and how much of a leap is it to just make SN a illegal substance to own if you don't have proper use cases and it's a very high purity (eg. above *95%). The Ken Law trial in Canada takes place in May 29, 2026 which will bring further publicity to this method and might be the final nail in the coffin to make it extremely hard to possess for normal people. So I suggest buying it as soon as possible from a credible source like DSL and storing it, if you don't want to use it immediately. I plan to use it as soon as I receive it, but it's reassuring to know that it's possible to store SN for a extremely long time without it losing it's purity due to it's chemical structure, as long as it's stored somewhat properly. A perfect example for my worry is the fact that SN is extremely hard to get in the UK which wasn't always the case and it's not gonna take long for the rest of the western world to catch up.

That being said, here is my situation and my posts are meant to help people in similar situations so that they get the full idea of what they are dealing with, as I am sure not everybody thinks to deeply about this which feels like a curse to me right now...
1. I don't have access to more easier, lethal, and peaceful methods
such as FIREARMS, proper N, He, and CO setup, other substances like Nembutal, jumping from EXTREME heights, and so on. That's why I believe SN is my best method that fits all my desired categories good enough.

2. I live with my parents. So if you live with other people and can't ship directly to your house, this post or my future posts might help you. If you live alone, then you are VERY lucky if you want to go down this route.

3. I can drive and go far from my house to CTB. If you can't drive then there are ways to make sure it's done right close to or in your house, but I advise you to either Uber or if you can't do that then you are obviously too young or in rare situations like living far from cities and such that come with their own advantages.

4. I can get a PO box. I am at this phase right now. Tomorrow I am going to shop around for PO boxes and get one. The reason why I want to look for a cheap one is because in case DSL is a scam, parcel gets seized, or the method doesn't work then it's not gonna be good I wasted money. Part of me thinks I shouldn't worry about that if I am gonna CTB anyways but more money I save, the more money goes to my family. I am also the type of person to have contingency plans or similar things like that if you couldn't tell already.

5. TESTING YOUR SN. Ok, this I've had my doubts about. People say no need to test SN if you are buying it online and this advise comes straight from the PPeH. The reason for this is cuz SN is easy and cheap to make so legit sellers have no reason to scam you and such. I understand that, but NaNO2 does slowly turn into NaNO3 when exposed to air or moisture which we do not want. The stability and storability for SN is super high but depending on the situation and how it's made, and if you are a super careful person like me, I suggest testing your SN. It's not super hard and I am lucky because I understand how to test chemicals because I love chemistry. YOU DO NOT have to be an expert to be able to test SN, it's super easy and you can find many tutorials here or in google. The potential consequences for your body and mind if it was not pure, is just to extreme to risk it cuz of something trivial to do.

6. I can find a location far from home. My plan is to find a location far from home ideally near water. However, finding a place near water is hard because some places are monitored and the NUMBER 1 RULE of any method is to find a place you won't be disturbed too early. This goes double for SN cuz if the ambulances are called then there is a fast acting and effective antidote, and depending on your location, first responders might carry it. That's why your own house is a very bad idea if you live with other people unless you know 100% that you won't be disturbed for a long time 12 hours+. However, I think strangers or the police finding you is much 'better' than your loved ones so I highly advise not to do it in your house unless you live alone. If I think near water is too risky, then I will just go to a very secluded road. But this also comes with it's own dangers as police or nice passerby's might be more likely to notice than a public place. Also, I looked for a place far from a hospital with a ER room. So this goes without saying, pick your location with care as it may be life or death quite literally. That being said based on my research, if you took enough SN (25g+) and someone doesn't find you relatively soon like in 1 hour, then you are prob good as gone.

I will continue to update you guys on my progress and the obstacles I come across. If you have any questions, feel free to ask as it may help not only you but me and other people too. Teamwork makes the dream work.
Take care and I hope one day, we all find the peace we wan--need.
 
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if_i_make_it

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Apr 30, 2026
99
thank you daisy! i'm waiting for my SN currently. im still really unsure about location. I can't drive and where I live ubers can get expensive quick. i only have a couple hundred bucks to my name so everything is cutting it close. what do you think?
 
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Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
thank you daisy! i'm waiting for my SN currently. im still really unsure about location. I can't drive and where I live ubers can get expensive quick. i only have a couple hundred bucks to my name so everything is cutting it close. what do you think?
I understand how Ubers are expensive and they are not needed if you don't plan to go too far, they can't take you that far anyways. Not being able to drive is a problem but I suggest maybe find a secluded location in your town or city at night. This is prob want you were thinking already but don't overthink it, as a secluded park or unmonitored woods trail will do just fine AT NIGHT. Check the place out beforehand at night for traffic and normal activities so there are no surprises. If you plan on going during the day, there is no good plan in town unless you can find a day where you will be alone at your house for more than 12+ hours ideally overnight.
 
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tooafraidtodiez

Will CTB before my favourite show ends
Apr 29, 2026
127
Note to all who ever finally consider taking the final leap with SN, please get some antacid. For dosage i don't really know but i'd just take the maximum dose since report varies between user with some saying that their stomach burn while other just report difficulty in breathing. People in the forum are saying this burning sensation is due to the stomach acid combining with the nitrite. Hoping you all find to peace by all means.
 
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Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
Note to all who ever finally consider taking the final leap with SN, please get some antacid. For dosage i don't really know but i'd just take the maximum dose since report varies between user with some saying that their stomach burn while other just report difficulty in breathing. People in the forum are saying this burning sensation is due to the stomach acid combining with the nitrite. Hoping you all find to peace by all means.
Yes! A very big thing is make sure you follow the most recent protocol as best you can. I am not too sure about anti-acids but I know anti-ematics are a must for nausea and other things. The best kind is metoclopramide or similar because I believe the key is that they help with gastric-emptying so anti-acids might not even be needed as it won't stay too long in your stomach if you have that or you will lose consciousness much faster. However, meto is a prescription only drug and there is no OTC alternative that I could find that helps with gastric emptying the same. So anti-acids might actually be a must for people like me who don't want to bother on getting prescription for meto or similar drugs. Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention, i will def look into that.
 
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yourlocalprotist

i don't even know
Jan 29, 2026
26
Hi, I am back. Sorry, I know I said the previous post was my last. But I WILL document my experience on getting SN here in the hopes that it helps other people in my situation, who are 100% sure about CTB specifically using SN. The reason why I want to do this is so people know there is a easy way out, and I feel like if people are committed enough to find DSL using hints on this website then they are committed enough to CTB. I am just trying to keep my conscience clear as I don't anybody to CTB if they aren't 100% sure. Also, it's annoying how the government restricts easy methods so quickly and I felt victim to this as I wish I knew about SN when you could just order it on Amazon, which still amazes me. However, SN is a unique case as many people have pointed out it has genuine use cases and it's kinda hard to outlaw it like drugs. I believe the fact that it's almost never used to purposely harm other people also gives it a strong standing against laws. Despite this, it might eventually get even more restricted as it's popularity as a method grows and the government has no choice. My main reason for making more posts is so people realize the potential for this method despite some common obstacles that can be passed. As it took me lot of research to find out everything about SN and DSL because posts are fragmented, and people don't document their journey which I understand, but it makes it hard for new people to properly understand certain methods before the source or methods are gone. So I just wanna help those people.

Reasons SN Could be More Restricted

Another reason why I want to do this is because I believe getting SN will be extremely hard in the near future specifically in North America. I heard the laws are tightening in the USA and Canada will follow along and I believe it's even more strict in Canada. The fact that SN has many actually curing uses will probably not hold for much longer as it's already hard to get SN in NA if you don't have a proper business, and how much of a leap is it to just make SN a illegal substance to own if you don't have proper use cases and it's a very high purity (eg. above *95%). The Ken Law trial in Canada takes place in May 29, 2026 which will bring further publicity to this method and might be the final nail in the coffin to make it extremely hard to possess for normal people. So I suggest buying it as soon as possible from a credible source like DSL and storing it, if you don't want to use it immediately. I plan to use it as soon as I receive it, but it's reassuring to know that it's possible to store SN for a extremely long time without it losing it's purity due to it's chemical structure, as long as it's stored somewhat properly. A perfect example for my worry is the fact that SN is extremely hard to get in the UK which wasn't always the case and it's not gonna take long for the rest of the western world to catch up.

That being said, here is my situation and my posts are meant to help people in similar situations so that they get the full idea of what they are dealing with, as I am sure not everybody thinks to deeply about this which feels like a curse to me right now...
1. I don't have access to more easier, lethal, and peaceful methods
such as FIREARMS, proper N, He, and CO setup, other substances like Nembutal, jumping from EXTREME heights, and so on. That's why I believe SN is my best method that fits all my desired categories good enough.

2. I live with my parents. So if you live with other people and can't ship directly to your house, this post or my future posts might help you. If you live alone, then you are VERY lucky if you want to go down this route.

3. I can drive and go far from my house to CTB. If you can't drive then there are ways to make sure it's done right close to or in your house, but I advise you to either Uber or if you can't do that then you are obviously too young or in rare situations like living far from cities and such that come with their own advantages.

4. I can get a PO box. I am at this phase right now. Tomorrow I am going to shop around for PO boxes and get one. The reason why I want to look for a cheap one is because in case DSL is a scam, parcel gets seized, or the method doesn't work then it's not gonna be good I wasted money. Part of me thinks I shouldn't worry about that if I am gonna CTB anyways but more money I save, the more money goes to my family. I am also the type of person to have contingency plans or similar things like that if you couldn't tell already.

5. TESTING YOUR SN. Ok, this I've had my doubts about. People say no need to test SN if you are buying it online and this advise comes straight from the PPeH. The reason for this is cuz SN is easy and cheap to make so legit sellers have no reason to scam you and such. I understand that, but NaNO2 does slowly turn into NaNO3 when exposed to air or moisture which we do not want. The stability and storability for SN is super high but depending on the situation and how it's made, and if you are a super careful person like me, I suggest testing your SN. It's not super hard and I am lucky because I understand how to test chemicals because I love chemistry. YOU DO NOT have to be an expert to be able to test SN, it's super easy and you can find many tutorials here or in google. The potential consequences for your body and mind if it was not pure, is just to extreme to risk it cuz of something trivial to do.

6. I can find a location far from home. My plan is to find a location far from home ideally near water. However, finding a place near water is hard because some places are monitored and the NUMBER 1 RULE of any method is to find a place you won't be disturbed too early. This goes double for SN cuz if the ambulances are called then there is a fast acting and effective antidote, and depending on your location, first responders might carry it. That's why your own house is a very bad idea if you live with other people unless you know 100% that you won't be disturbed for a long time 12 hours+. However, I think strangers or the police finding you is much 'better' than your loved ones so I highly advise not to do it in your house unless you live alone. If I think near water is too risky, then I will just go to a very secluded road. But this also comes with it's own dangers as police or nice passerby's might be more likely to notice than a public place. Also, I looked for a place far from a hospital with a ER room. So this goes without saying, pick your location with care as it may be life or death quite literally. That being said based on my research, if you took enough SN (25g+) and someone doesn't find you relatively soon like in 1 hour, then you are prob good as gone.

I will continue to update you guys on my progress and the obstacles I come across. If you have any questions, feel free to ask as it may help not only you but me and other people too. Teamwork makes the dream work.
Take care and I hope one day, we all find the peace we wan--need.
Thank you for this great post.
I've been scraping together some money (it gets blown quite fast) to purchase SN. Hopefully I am able to get it i time. If not, there is always the bridge.
 
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sickofeverything

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Apr 17, 2026
377
Note to all who ever finally consider taking the final leap with SN, please get some antacid. For dosage i don't really know but i'd just take the maximum dose since report varies between user with some saying that their stomach burn while other just report difficulty in breathing. People in the forum are saying this burning sensation is due to the stomach acid combining with the nitrite. Hoping you all find to peace by all means.
I think I might be able to find 1000 mg calcium carbonate antacid. Would you recommend I take one or two? And how long before the SN would you recommend people take it? I looked at some of the SN threads and besides just saying generally anti-acid I couldn't find much details.
Yes! A very big thing is make sure you follow the most recent protocol as best you can. I am not too sure about anti-acids but I know anti-ematics are a must for nausea and other things. The best kind is metoclopramide or similar because I believe the key is that they help with gastric-emptying so anti-acids might not even be needed as it won't stay too long in your stomach if you have that or you will lose consciousness much faster. However, meto is a prescription only drug and there is no OTC alternative that I could find that helps with gastric emptying the same. So anti-acids might actually be a must for people like me who don't want to bother on getting prescription for meto or similar drugs. Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention, i will def look into that.
Do you mind linking the most recent SN protocol? I found some older ones I was looking over and I'm unsure which one is the most up-to-date. I don't have antiemetics and can't get my hands on them, but I'm hoping Benadryl, Google says it has some antimetic effect, will work well enough
 
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Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
I am pretty the sure the most up to date in SS is this https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-method-comprehensive-guide-sn-method.121672/ and older one but still viable is https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/ . The best protocol can be found in the PPeH January 2025. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-january-2025.194954/
Thank you for this great post.
I've been scraping together some money (it gets blown quite fast) to purchase SN. Hopefully I am able to get it i time. If not, there is always the bridge.
I hope you are able to follow a path of least suffering. However, a bridge is not ideal at all. Believe me, my first method I thought of was jumping cuz it made the most sense logically. However, it has to be in EXTREME heights and regular bridges don't give you that especially over water. The chances of living with severe injuries and damage is too much. Or at the very least, CTB but having your last moments be pure agony. If you want something peaceful, jumping is not the way.
 
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tooafraidtodiez

Will CTB before my favourite show ends
Apr 29, 2026
127
I think I might be able to find 1000 mg calcium carbonate antacid. Would you recommend I take one or two? And how long before the SN would you recommend people take it? I looked at some of the SN threads and besides just saying generally anti-acid I couldn't find much details.

Do you mind linking the most recent SN protocol? I found some older ones I was looking over and I'm unsure which one is the most up-to-date. I don't have antiemetics and can't get my hands on them, but I'm hoping Benadryl, Google says it has some antimetic effect, will work well enough
I really don't know about the dosage, maybe look up the min max dosage for the brand you have and decide from there. Personally, I'm planning to take 2 800 mg calc carb as it is the maximum dose recommended for the pills i have. For the antiemetics some people said ondo (ondasentron) is a good replacement
 
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sickofeverything

Specialist
Apr 17, 2026
377
I really don't know about the dosage, maybe look up the min max dosage for the brand you have and decide from there. Personally, I'm planning to take 2 800 mg calc carb as it is the maximum dose recommended for the pills i have. For the antiemetics some people said ondo (ondasentron) is a good replacement
Got it I guess I'll take a look tomorrow when I'm shopping for it. It seems like you need a prescription to get ondo when I google it
 
Daisy88_99

Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
I really don't know about the dosage, maybe look up the min max dosage for the brand you have and decide from there. Personally, I'm planning to take 2 800 mg calc carb as it is the maximum dose recommended for the pills i have. For the antiemetics some people said ondo (ondasentron) is a good replacement
Tbh, I believe any OTC strong anti-emetic will do the trick as it's possible to replicate the anti-nausea effects of meto but impossible to replicate the gastroprokinetic(faster stomach emptying) effects using OTC meds. That's why I now believe an anti-acid can be used to lessen the discomfort in your stomach has it will stay there for longer without a prokinetic med.

I was confused on why the PPeH does not recommend anti-acids anymore. I believe it's cuz it assumes you have access to meto. I will do more in depth research on this topic and make a post about proper substitution for meto as I am sure a lot of people have this problem. I wanna make sure they have a painless journey.
Got it I guess I'll take a look tomorrow when I'm shopping for it. It seems like you need a prescription to get ondo when I google it
I believe any OTC strong anti-emetic will do the trick.
 
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sickofeverything

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Apr 17, 2026
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Tbh, I believe any OTC strong anti-emetic will do the trick as it's possible to replicate the anti-nausea effects of meto but impossible to replicate the gastroprokinetic(faster stomach emptying) effects using OTC meds. That's why I now believe an anti-acid can be used to lessen the discomfort in your stomach has it will stay there for longer without a prokinetic med.

I was confused on why the PPeH does not recommend anti-acids anymore. I believe it's cuz it assumes you have access to meto. I will do more in depth research on this topic and make a post about proper substitution for meto as I am sure a lot of people have this problem. I wanna make sure they have a painless journey.

I believe any OTC strong anti-emetic will do the trick.
I thought people said otc anti emetic's don't work, I was just kind of hoping and praying that Benadryl would work as an anti emetic and was planning on adding an antacid as well
 
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wrapped_in_plastic

komm, sĂĽsser tod.
Jul 28, 2025
13
terrible time to finally figure out what dsl is :( now I don't know if I should save up money and get it before its banned/gone.
 
Daisy88_99

Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
I thought people said otc anti emetic's don't work, I was just kind of hoping and praying that Benadryl would work as an anti emetic and was planning on adding an antacid as well
Benadryl is an anti-emetic, well it has anti-emetic "properties". I am not familiar with it but if you mean diphenhydramine HCl then from my research, this will work as a sedative and a lil bit of anti-emetic. A strong OTC anti-emetic will work better than Benadryl from what I know.



A big update guys. I just got a "PO box" tdy and it was much cheaper and simpler than I realized. All I got to do is place my order now, I am so excited! I won't be giving out exact details for my safety but I will make a new thread about setting up a PO box (not a PO box but something similar as some couriers don't deliver to PO boxes) if you can't deliver it to your house. It's much cheaper than you think, well at least it was for me.
 
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sickofeverything

Specialist
Apr 17, 2026
377
Benadryl is an anti-emetic, well it has anti-emetic "properties". I am not familiar with it but if you mean diphenhydramine HCl then from my research, this will work as a sedative and a lil bit of anti-emetic. A strong OTC anti-emetic will work better than Benadryl from what I know.



A big update guys. I just got a "PO box" tdy and it was much cheaper and simpler than I realized. All I got to do is place my order now, I am so excited! I won't be giving out exact details for my safety but I will make a new thread about setting up a PO box (not a PO box but something similar as some couriers don't deliver to PO boxes) if you can't deliver it to your house. It's much cheaper than you think, well at least it was for me.
Yeah I saw it had the properties so I thought it would be better than nothing, do you recommend any otc anti emetics? Every search I saw said that don't work and not to bother. I'm unsure if I should take one as it says or double it to try and get better results
 
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iCryInMySecretSpot

Member
Apr 24, 2026
67
please i cant figure out your post. what is dsl

edit : LMAO. nvm i figured it out

can i buy, and store it, and not use it for at least a year?
 
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Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
please i cant figure out your post. what is dsl

edit : LMAO. nvm i figured it out

can i buy, and store it, and not use it for at least a year?
100% just make sure you are in a country where it won't get sized (eg. NOT THE UK) and even then there is a chance it might be seized and wellness checks are conducted, so this is at your own risk. Make sure you follow proper storing procedures, it's very easy to store. Also make sure its the real DSL website.
 
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iCryInMySecretSpot

Member
Apr 24, 2026
67
100% just make sure you are in a country where it won't get sized (eg. NOT THE UK) and even then there is a chance it might be seized and wellness checks are conducted, so this is at your own risk. Make sure you follow proper storing procedures, it's very easy to store. Also make sure its the real DSL website.
cat dog? im canadian
 
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inpainnosleep

Member
Apr 11, 2026
67
From U.S. I ordered on the 27th and gave him my info and haven't even gotten a tracking number yet. I'm too nervous to contact him because I know DSL have been having issues lately. What if they aren't even shipping them anymore?
 
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Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
Yeah I saw it had the properties so I thought it would be better than nothing, do you recommend any otc anti emetics? Every search I saw said that don't work and not to bother. I'm unsure if I should take one as it says or double it to try and get better results
I believe dimenhydrinate might be a very good OTC anti-emetic. Unlike Benadryl (diphenhydramine HCl) which the main use cases is allergies and other properties are just an add on, dimenhydrinate primary use cases is an anti-emetic.
 
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iCryInMySecretSpot

Member
Apr 24, 2026
67
Yes, you got it right. I am Canadian too so I am still figuring out everything. I think Canada is more strict than the US tho cuz of Ken Law.
i decided not to get it after much contemplation. i am in a very vunlerable state right now and i am worried my nightly spirals would make me go for it. i will follow your post in case i want to store it as well
 
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Apr 22, 2026
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i decided not to get it after much contemplation. i am in a very vunlerable state right now and i am worried my nightly spirals would make me go for it. i will follow your post in case i want to store it as well
It sounds like you are having a mental health crisis. Please do not do anything rash and talk to someone. I know that's generic but posts like these are only meant for people with a clear mental space.
 
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sickofeverything

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Apr 17, 2026
377
I believe dimenhydrinate might be a very good OTC anti-emetic. Unlike Benadryl (diphenhydramine HCl) which the main use cases is allergies and other properties are just an add on, dimenhydrinate primary use cases is an anti-emetic.
When I google it only Dramamine shows up otc, is that the right thing?
 
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peacebenow

Enough
Apr 26, 2026
266
From U.S. I ordered on the 27th and gave him my info and haven't even gotten a tracking number yet. I'm too nervous to contact him because I know DSL have been having issues lately. What if they aren't even shipping them anymore?
he responded to me on Friday re my order as it has been moving through U* for 25 days. I am in US waiting. did you use express or regular? he is still working. the waiting is hard in all ways.
 
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inpainnosleep

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Apr 11, 2026
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he responded to me on Friday re my order as it has been moving through U* for 25 days. I am in US waiting. did you use express or regular? he is still working and sending out I believe. the waiting is hard in all ways.
I'll probably message him tomorrow. I got "mandatory" protection shipping in the U.S. I just feel like I should have gotten a tracking number by now since I ordered on the 27th and gave him my info on Whatsapp.
 
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peacebenow

Enough
Apr 26, 2026
266
I'll probably message him tomorrow. I got "mandatory" protection shipping in the U.S. I just feel like I should have gotten a tracking number by now since I ordered on the 27th and gave him my info on Whatsapp.
right, it changed with the new mandatory protection add on. I understand. update what he says in response.
 
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Daisy88_99

Never Enough
Apr 22, 2026
107
I'll probably message him tomorrow. I got "mandatory" protection shipping in the U.S. I just feel like I should have gotten a tracking number by now since I ordered on the 27th and gave him my info on Whatsapp.
You shouldn't be afraid to message if you already ordered and gave your info. From one person in a forum they said "I ordered through the express option, and it took 20 days to arrive after getting shipped, 25 days total". Also, yes no tracking is alarming because from what I've seen, most people get theirs in 48 hours.
 

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