I'm really worried SN will not be as painless as people say

[searchingforpeace]

I'm scared that once I take it I'm gonna be terrified of the lack of oxygen and what not. How do I get over this?

 

[Moroze]

I have an awful gag reflex so I'm positive that as soon as I start drinking it I'll just get sick and that will be it.

And yes, SN is not peaceful. Just imagine running and then getting the sensation of being out of breath and not being able to breathe and that's how you die

 

[Infinitespace_]

Take painkillers and benzo's before

 

[srilankanbeyotch]

I have an awful gag reflex so I'm positive that as soon as I start drinking it I'll just get sick and that will be it.

And yes, SN is not peaceful. Just imagine running and then getting the sensation of being out of breath and not being able to breathe and that's how you die

This is simply wrong info. Youre talking about asphyxia, the lack of air sensation. With SN you can still breathe but the oxygen in your blood doesnt get to your tissues/organs causing hypoxia.

 

[coldworld]

same ive watched videos and its hard to tell

 

[Unknown21]

Because the situation will likely be like this, it's preferable to use Benzos with it. From my experience, I can tell you that the air hunger is no joke.
Also, extreme exhaustion, the inability to sit or stand, and the loss of control over your body are not things I would wish on anyone trying to end their life peacefully.

Good luck.

 

[Xiaojiu]

Because the situation will likely be like this, it's preferable to use Benzos with it. From my experience, I can tell you that the air hunger is no joke.
Also, extreme exhaustion, the inability to sit or stand, and the loss of control over your body are not things I would wish on anyone trying to end their life peacefully.

Good luck.

Did you have an attempt and this is what you experienced?


SN causes methemoglobinemia

Methemoglobinemia (MetHb): Symptoms, Causes & Treatment

Methemoglobinemia is a rare blood disorder that affects how red blood cells deliver oxygen throughout your body.

my.clevelandclinic.org

 

[Unknown21]

Did you have an attempt and this is what you experienced?


SN causes methemoglobinemia

Methemoglobinemia (MetHb): Symptoms, Causes & Treatment

Methemoglobinemia is a rare blood disorder that affects how red blood cells deliver oxygen throughout your body.

my.clevelandclinic.org

I tried almost 3g of SN and i experienced most of the symptoms.

 

[Realog11]

I tried almost 3g of SN and i experienced most of the symptoms.

Seemed pretty painless for @Carryline if you see his thread he said caffeine was more painful, he got unconscious in 16-20 minutes

 

[collidedsigns]

Someone once said to me "you came into this world from pain, don't think you can leave the world without it," sadly I think it's true. There isn't really any pain free way to go.

It's one of the many things you have to consider when it comes to ctb. You will suffer in one way or another. Just don't rush into anything.

 

[Realog11]

Someone once said to me "you came into this world from pain, don't think you can leave the world without it," sadly I think it's true. There isn't really any pain free way to go.

It's one of the many things you have to consider when it comes to ctb. You will suffer in one way or another. Just don't rush into anything.

Yeah

 

[Whale_bones]

Because the situation will likely be like this, it's preferable to use Benzos with it. From my experience, I can tell you that the air hunger is no joke.
Also, extreme exhaustion, the inability to sit or stand, and the loss of control over your body are not things I would wish on anyone trying to end their life peacefully.

Good luck.

First off, I'm really sorry you had a bad experience.

From an informational standpoint, I think it's important to note that most of the reports we have of people experiencing very distressing/painful symptoms are from those who took much lower amounts than recommended by the protocol. Meanwhile, for those who took the recommended 25g and survived (because of being interrupted, receiving medical help, etc.) reports of mild symptoms and a short time to unconsciousness are by far the most common.

This is a big reason why 25g is the recommended amount, even though it's far more than is needed for lethality. The goal is to overwhelm your system so unconsciousness comes quickly, and you aren't awake to experience what would otherwise be very uncomfortable symptoms of SN poisoning.

@searchingforpeace What I've done is read the reports of people who followed the protocol, and determined whether I'd be okay with the type of symptoms they described. Of course, none of us can know with certainty how our bodies will react, but it atleast gives us baseline information of what the "average" experience is.

 

[Xiaojiu]

First off, I'm really sorry you had a bad experience.

From an informational standpoint, I think it's important to note that most of the reports we have of people experiencing very distressing/painful symptoms are from those who took much lower amounts than recommended by the protocol. Meanwhile, for those who took the recommended 25g and survived (because of being interrupted, receiving medical help, etc.) reports of mild symptoms and a short time to unconsciousness are by far the most common.

This is a big reason why 25g is the recommended amount, even though it's far more than is needed for lethality. The goal is to overwhelm your system so unconsciousness comes quickly, and you aren't awake to experience what would otherwise be very uncomfortable symptoms of SN poisoning.

@searchingforpeace What I've done is read the reports of people who followed the protocol, and determined whether I'd be okay with the type of symptoms they described. Of course, none of us can know with certainty how our bodies will react, but it atleast gives us baseline information of what the "average" experience is.

Yeah, I have a friend on here that CTBed via SN. She had no benzos. And took SN 3 hours after taking AE. The person who watched her die told me she was very nauseous, throwing up a lot, had a headache, dizziness, and felt weak. But, still smiled at him as she slipped away he said.

 

[powersurge&achilles]

simple. Don't commit suicide cuz that is giving into the weaker parts of your nature. I write sitting from my manic pearly castle.

 

[Exhausted546]

Yeah, I have a friend on here that CTBed via SN. She had no benzos. And took SN 3 hours after taking AE. The person who watched her die told me she was very nauseous, throwing up a lot, had a headache, dizziness, and felt weak. But, still smiled at him as she slipped away he said.

Someone watched her and didn't get criminal charges???

 

[Unknown21]

Seemed pretty painless for @Carryline if you see his thread he said caffeine was more painful, he got unconscious in 16-20 minutes

I know it was painless for many members here, but I'm talking about my personal experience, which wasn't good, by the way.

 

[Xiaojiu]

Someone watched her and didn't get criminal charges???

They watched her via video chat not in person.

I know it was painless for many members here, but I'm talking about my personal experience, which wasn't good, by the way.

Was your attempt recent? And did you do the protocol?

simple. Don't commit suicide cuz that is giving into the weaker parts of your nature. I write sitting from my manic pearly castle.

Thoughts of suicide is not being weak. Insensitive thing to say especially on a pro choice forum.

 

[Unknown21]

Was your attempt recent? And did you do the protocol?

No, I only took one teaspoon of SN solution (7 teaspoons in half a cup of water) in September (approximately 2.5-3 grams of SN).

 

[amor.dor]

From experience, you don't feel short of breath, you feel weak, dizzy, sleepy, and nauseous.skin begins to turn pale.
But if you vomit everything you drank and don't pass out yet, there might still be time to save yourself, depending on the timing.

 

[powersurge&achilles]

They watched her via video chat not in person.

Was your attempt recent? And did you do the protocol?

Thoughts of suicide is not being weak. Insensitive thing to say especially on a pro choice forum.

I attempted but actually ironically gave in to SI and sent myself to a psych ward. It can be argued either way that life is worth living or worth dying, because what is weak is dependent on your perspective. Would it be so much to have the positive outlook?

 

[Xiaojiu]

I attempted but actually ironically gave in to SI and sent myself to a psych ward. It can be argued either way that life is worth living or worth dying, because what is weak is dependent on your perspective. Would it be so much to have the positive outlook?

No one says you can't have a positive outlook. It's good that you now have the will to live after the attempt.

Just that saying suicide is weak is being insensitive. Many of us here have unchangeable circumstances that make life difficult to live and we rather not be here anymore. For instance, I see the beauty of life but I have a painful body due to chronic illnesses with no cures and disabled with chronic pain. For me choosing suicide isn't being weak. It's euthanasia.

 

[Obliviate]

I suggest you look at the science behind it. You won't be suffocating if that's what you mean. That is from a build up of CO2. You'll still be receiving oxygen it just doesn't get delivered to your cells.

 

[sevennn]

yes but what else do we do. at least you can drink it. i have a bad stomach which makes things worse. idk how ill do it. i was thinking about capsules but people advise against it. idk what to do

No one says you can't have a positive outlook. It's good that you now have the will to live after the attempt.

Just that saying suicide is weak is being insensitive. Many of us here have unchangeable circumstances that make life difficult to live and we rather not be here anymore. For instance, I see the beauty of life but I have a painful body due to chronic illnesses with no cures and disabled with chronic pain. For me choosing suicide isn't being weak. It's euthanasia.

i relate to you. i reached out to all the euthanasia clincis. no one even wants to help. its so painful wanting to live but having to die because your body wont let you be happy

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Someone once said to me "you came into this world from pain, don't think you can leave the world without it," sadly I think it's true. There isn't really any pain free way to go.

It's one of the many things you have to consider when it comes to ctb. You will suffer in one way or another. Just don't rush into anything.

Nembutal is painless but they stole it from everyone by making it a crime to sell or own.

sarco suicide pod is also painless but they made that a crime too,.

same thing for hiring someone to shoot me in the head. that's painless if done with a powerful rifle or shotgun and most guns imo instant unconscoiusness. they also made this a crime.

fentanyl, morphine , heroin , anesthetic drugs are also painless but they severely restrict these also and criminalized owning them or buying them without a prescription.

other ways too Nitrogen mask bag helium.

i think a co cylinder is also painless but again that is severely restricted. hook a mask to a co cylinder out in a few seconds or let out a large co cylinder in a small space like a small room or shed.

there are many painless guaranteed ways to escape this hell but they purposefully criminalized all of them

most natural ways to get to Death / Non-existence forever are extremely painful, long lasting and some can last for months as in cancer, alsheimers

the problem is i was brought to this hell which i didnt ask for . then they stole every painless guaranteed way out of this prison. at least if they hadn't stolen every guraanteed suicide method i could get escape this prison nightmare hell in a guaranteed painless way and everyone else could to when they wanted to if they wanted to and not have to suffer and then risk extreme torture

so now that i'm in this trap i have to risk diy suicide methods which are not guaranteed and mostly unknown cause there just isn't enough expeirmental data and they can fail cause of si calling ER ,someone finding you , many other ways not guaranteed. then there are the risky and brutal methods like jumping under a buss or off a building drowning . this will also traumatize other people . if we could buy nembutal online and then drink it at home it's preferable to jumping off a building and affecting traumatizing others: but they have everyone thinking this is acceptable.

 

[Xiaojiu]

yes but what else do we do. at least you can drink it. i have a bad stomach which makes things worse. idk how ill do it. i was thinking about capsules but people advise against it. idk what to do

i relate to you. i reached out to all the euthanasia clincis. no one even wants to help. its so painful wanting to live but having to die because your body wont let you be happy

Yes! That's exactly me. I'm crying writing this comment because if it weren't for my painful body, I would want to live.

Euthanasia isn't readily available and accessible. Plus, it's expensive. So, I'm on this site looking for a way out when I'm ready to go. I know that I will be crying when I'm dying because it's just not fair you know?

 

[sevennn]

Yes! That's exactly me. I'm crying writing this comment because if it weren't for my painful body, I would want to live.

Euthanasia isn't readily available and accessible. Plus, it's expensive. So, I'm on this site looking for a way out when I'm ready to go. I know that I will be crying when I'm dying because it's just not fair you know?

yes. it really isnt fair at all. i hope heaven exists so i can still get a chance of happiness somewhere

 

[powersurge&achilles]

No one says you can't have a positive outlook. It's good that you now have the will to live after the attempt.

Just that saying suicide is weak is being insensitive. Many of us here have unchangeable circumstances that make life difficult to live and we rather not be here anymore. For instance, I see the beauty of life but I have a painful body due to chronic illnesses with no cures and disabled with chronic pain. For me choosing suicide isn't being weak. It's euthanasia.

I understand you. That is why I am here on this form too. It makes effort 10x harder