Discussion If you're autistic, how do you feel about your autism?

[banger12]

Hello everybody. Autistic person here and I was wondering about how other autistic people feel about their autism. Whether it's positive, negative, mixed, etc.

My feelings have grown complicated and sometimes I hate being autistic while other times I love it. It's this chaotic oscillation between extremes in terms of my attitude toward autism. Being on the spectrum can be very bittersweet for me sometimes.

I hope everyone is well. I'm very curious and please explain your thoughts and feelings if you feel comfortable.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I'm neutral about it I suppose. I don't care much about my autism

 

[Namelesa]

I have a mixed opinion of it and don't know about whether some things are caused by it or not. I think it has positively effected me in being able to obsess and get more out of my interests and hobbies but has negatively me in lots of other ways. It causes basic self care like brushing teeth and washing myself to be harder and more uncomfortable cus of sensitivity issues. I imagine its also made me more emotional and sensitive. I had difficulty making friends and socializing at a younger age but have gotten better as I have grown up and got a stronger sense of identity and especially better with interacting with weirdos like me. I also think some of my mannerisms like stimming are cute.

 

[banger12]

I have a mixed opinion of it and don't know about whether some things are caused by it or not. I think it has positively effected me in being able to obsess and get more out of my interests and hobbies but has negatively me in lots of other ways. It causes basic self care like brushing teeth and washing myself to be harder and more uncomfortable cus of sensitivity issues. I imagine its also made me more emotional and sensitive. I had difficulty making friends and socializing at a younger age but have gotten better as I have grown up and got a stronger sense of identity and especially better with interacting with weirdos like me. I also think some of my mannerisms like stimming are cute.

I relate to this a lot. It's definitely a double edged sword. I don't think any of us want to think of our autism as a calculation, but given the obsessive fixations we have with our passions it's like we can win disproportionate success at the price of social lives. And we'll never know if that trade was worth it. Not that there's a choice in the matter anyway. That's how I feel but I shouldn't speak for others.

On the social part I've only realized later in life (im in my early-ish 20s for reference) The degree to which my social impairments have impacted my life, not just in loneliness and isolation but in ways that social ignorance led me to do shitty things to people without understanding and inversely to be overly trusting and be taken advantage of.

It's a mess to even know how to feel.

I'm very glad you've found success in improving and that you can find subtle aspects of being autistic that brong you joy. Best wishes.

 

[be-easy]

I got diagnosed as an adult, so it's upsetting that I've wasted so many years trying to understand what's wrong with me.

My life is so much easier now that I finally know why I am the way I am, but y'know.

But besides that, I feel neutral/slightly negative about being autistic. I'm trying to accept it but it's still a disability that affects my day to day life, in every aspect. If I could choose to be neurotypical, I would. I don't really see any upsides of being autistic. I don't hate it but I don't like it either.

 

[banger12]

I got diagnosed as an adult, so it's upsetting that I've wasted so many years trying to understand what's wrong with me.

My life is so much easier now that I finally know why I am the way I am, but y'know.

But besides that, I feel neutral/slightly negative about being autistic. I'm trying to accept it but it's still a disability that affects my day to day life, in every aspect. If I could choose to be neurotypical, I would. I don't really see any upsides of being autistic. I don't hate it but I don't like it either.

I'm so sorry. I can only imagine how rough it is not knowing. And acceptance can be hard. But I hope regardless of how you feel you can be authentic with yourself and you don't repress your feelings about it because of what others think. I think that current attitudes have become more positive and tolerant of autism, which is obviously good, but can be a double edged sword because any earnest negative feelings about it being expressed by autistics can be misinterpreted as intolerant itself. Anyway, I hope that you make your feelings yours and I'm glad you know now. Much love.

 

[Namelesa]

I relate to this a lot. It's definitely a double edged sword. I don't think any of us want to think of our autism as a calculation, but given the obsessive fixations we have with our passions it's like we can win disproportionate success at the price of social lives. And we'll never know if that trade was worth it. Not that there's a choice in the matter anyway. That's how I feel but I shouldn't speak for others.

On the social part I've only realized later in life (im in my early-ish 20s for reference) The degree to which my social impairments have impacted my life, not just in loneliness and isolation but in ways that social ignorance led me to do shitty things to people without understanding and inversely to be overly trusting and be taken advantage of.

It's a mess to even know how to feel.

I'm very glad you've found success in improving and that you can find subtle aspects of being autistic that brong you joy. Best wishes.

I definitely think that our ability to be more passionate in our hyper-fixations can lead us to get more joy and be more productive in what we work in.

I think in terms of being able to socialize easier is to try and meet other autistic people. I was able to meet my best friend at a LGBTQ+ youth club and as queer and autism often go together it was easy to meet someone like me. I do wonder if autism has actually benefited me in a way in terms of socializing as I am able to make deeper bonds quicker with people that are in our niche. However its harder to keep friendships and relationships together cus of my fear of abandonment, paranoia about doing anything wrong and me being an emotional burden but I don't know if autism has influenced or caused these things in any way.

If I had the choice to get rid of my autism I think I won't take it as I feel like its a core part of me and has allowed me to be unique in terms of what I create, especially with my game development. I hate my depression, anxiety and abandonment issues more than anything else and would want those to go away. Or to ctb cus I can't have any problems if I am dead.

 

[banger12]

I definitely think that our ability to be more passionate in our hyper-fixations can lead us to get more joy and be more productive in what we work in.

I think in terms of being able to socialize easier is to try and meet other autistic people. I was able to meet my best friend at a LGBTQ+ youth club and as queer and autism often go together it was easy to meet someone like me. I do wonder if autism has actually benefited me in a way in terms of socializing as I am able to make deeper bonds quicker with people that are in our niche. However its harder to keep friendships and relationships together cus of my fear of abandonment, paranoia about doing anything wrong and me being an emotional burden but I don't know if autism has influenced or caused these things in any way.

If I had the choice to get rid of my autism I think I won't take it as I feel like its a core part of me and has allowed me to be unique in terms of what I create, especially with my game development. I hate my depression, anxiety and abandonment issues more than anything else and would want those to go away. Or to ctb cus I can't have any problems if I am dead.

I like your contributions to this discussion a lot. I have trouble maintaining relationships too, but you bring up some positives that I've failed to consider. Glad you experience that side of it. Personally I have nothing beneficial about myself to provide to others to compensate so I'm just all alone lol. Sorry I didn't mean to vent but as I'm typing that just came out. But I don't think I'd get rid of my autism either.

Then again I'm planning to ctb so in a round about way.....

Anyway. Thank you so much for your insight.

 

[Arrival03]

It's the main reason I want to die.

 

[Namelesa]

I like your contributions to this discussion a lot. I have trouble maintaining relationships too, but you bring up some positives that I've failed to consider. Glad you experience that side of it. Personally I have nothing beneficial about myself to provide to others to compensate so I'm just all alone lol. Sorry I didn't mean to vent but as I'm typing that just came out. But I don't think I'd get rid of my autism either.

Then again I'm planning to ctb so in a round about way.....

Anyway. Thank you so much for your insight.

its okay if you want to vent about anything you think your autism has influenced and caused as you made this thread about autism so anyone should be able to vent their problems with it here. <3

 

[ihatemen420]

Hello everybody. Autistic person here and I was wondering about how other autistic people feel about their autism. Whether it's positive, negative, mixed, etc.

My feelings have grown complicated and sometimes I hate being autistic while other times I love it. It's this chaotic oscillation between extremes in terms of my attitude toward autism. Being on the spectrum can be very bittersweet for me sometimes.

I hope everyone is well. I'm very curious and please explain your thoughts and feelings if you feel comfortable.

I truly and genuinely believe it makes me subhuman. I am immeasurably a worse person in every conceivable way due to both my autism and my interactions with other autistic people. I am so envious of people who are so neurotypical they don't even know what autism is that I just want to crush them into a pulp. But lately I've taught myself to relish in making other people's lives worse, so I'm actually starting to enjoy being the worthless leech that I am. Yeeeesssss… waste your resources on me… I'm coming to take everything from you… it's actually kinda anti-establishment and will hasten human extinction in some small way, which is actually kinda good. I guess I'm the kind of person who can find a silver lining in everything!

 

[lonelyloner1999]

Autism isn't real. The majority of the tests are based on younger me. They take a bunch of abused kids who are smart and class them "autistic". Just be who you are unappologetically trust me. They don't want you to shine that is what the issue is.

 

[dragonofenvy]

I know for 100% certainty that if I wasn't autistic I would've been happy. Instead I am made to suffer horribly. Even the "intellect" it gave me doesn't do anything for me other than make me realize how bad my life is. I do not want to be unique nor would I wish "uniqueness" on anybody. I even went as far as to make an entire thread about how autistic people are victimized with stats and sources and everything. It isn't something I could fathom viewing positively.

Autism isn't real. The majority of the tests are based on younger me. They take a bunch of abused kids who are smart and class them "autistic".

Not from what I've seen in psychological literature and from my own personal experiences. If it's real then why is my brain 20% bigger than everyone else's? How is it that most autistic people have, for example, sensory issues? How is it that people can have a ton of overlapping personality traits that are not the same as everybody else's and not have the label they put on it be false? Most disorders are arbitrarily judged yes, but if we go down that logic then depression isn't real. OCD isn't real. ADHD isn't real etc. The problem with being who you are in this case is that who you are isn't good enough for people. I tried being who I was and oh boy did that not work in the slightest. Being fake is what made people even bother to talk to me.

 

[lonelyloner1999]

I know for 100% certainty that if I wasn't autistic I would've been happy. Instead I am made to suffer horribly. Even the "intellect" it gave me doesn't do anything for me other than make me realize how bad my life is. I do not want to be unique nor would I wish "uniqueness" on anybody. I even went as far as to make an entire thread about how autistic people are victimized with stats and sources and everything. It isn't something I could fathom viewing positively.


Not from what I've seen in psychological literature and from my own personal experiences. If it's real then why is my brain 20% bigger than everyone else's? How is it that most autistic people have, for example, sensory issues? How is it that people can have a ton of overlapping personality traits that are not the same as everybody else's and not have the label they put on it be false? Most disorders are arbitrarily judged yes, but if we go down that logic then depression isn't real. OCD isn't real. ADHD isn't real etc. The problem with being who you are in this case is that who you are isn't good enough for people. I tried being who I was and oh boy did that not work in the slightest. Being fake is what made people even bother to talk to me.

Because you are smarter. That is why. Dumber people cant comprehend the fact that someone could be so much more intellectual than them it burns them to the core. I grew up bullied and the psychologist would label me "autistic" I have done so much research into this. Trust me. A lot of these tests are based on me in my younger years. Most of the symptoms of "autism" stem from childhood neglect. The people that studied psychology around my age bracket were the less intelligent so you have to take what they say with a grain of salt.

What tests did you take to confirm?

Because you are smarter. That is why. Dumber people cant comprehend the fact that someone could be so much more intellectual than them it burns them to the core. I grew up bullied and the psychologist would label me "autistic" I have done so much research into this. Trust me. A lot of these tests are based on me in my younger years. Most of the symptoms of "autism" stem from childhood neglect. The people that studied psychology around my age bracket were the less intelligent so you have to take what they say with a grain of salt.

What tests did you take to confirm?

I used to care about peoples perception of me. Stop caring so much and be who you are trust me. They will secretly like you are not afraid to be who you are and copy you. But publicly pretend to hate you. Its stems from the hatred and insecurities they have for themselves and within themselves. I know firsthand.

Because you are smarter. That is why. Dumber people cant comprehend the fact that someone could be so much more intellectual than them it burns them to the core. I grew up bullied and the psychologist would label me "autistic" I have done so much research into this. Trust me. A lot of these tests are based on me in my younger years. Most of the symptoms of "autism" stem from childhood neglect. The people that studied psychology around my age bracket were the less intelligent so you have to take what they say with a grain of salt.

What tests did you take to confirm?

I used to care about peoples perception of me. Stop caring so much and be who you are trust me. They will secretly like you are not afraid to be who you are and copy you. But publicly pretend to hate you. Its stems from the hatred and insecurities they have for themselves and within themselves. I know firsthand.

 

[lawlietsph]

I wouldn't have any problem with it if I could live in a different society/planet.
Currently the way this world works is extremely painful, stressful, tiring for me, i'm sure many of you can relate. :(
I don't think there's anything wrong with me.
I just think this world was built to destroy everyone who is not coping well with being a slave.

 

[lonelyloner1999]

I wouldn't have any problem with it if I could live in a different society/planet.
Currently the way this world works is extremely painful, stressful, tiring for me, i'm sure many of you can relate. :(
I don't think there's anything wrong with me.
I just think this world was built to destroy everyone who is not coping well with being a slave.

It really is unfortunately. But you dont have to bow down and be one. Fight back how you can.

 

[whitetaildeer]

this is a little hard to answer. i was diagnosed as an infant with aspergers syndrome, which is just very high functioning autism. the symptoms don't go away, but you do learn what is/isn't socially acceptable behavior (and i'd assume this is what gives some people the misconception that you "grow out of autism.") most people in real life don't think i'm autistic. hell, my own father doubts my diagnosis was legit. but even with time, i still cannot socialize to save my life, don't know basic social cues (unsaid rules go over my head), and i need people to communicate their needs directly. i also get special interests... they're just never useful or impressive skills, like the ones you see in autistic savants.

autism is (in)directly responsible for a lot of my embarrassing memories growing up, because not understand social cues and being socially inept... definitely makes for some terrible scenarios with painfully predictable results. self-loathing, not so much, but embarrassing myself like that again, no matter how much i've grown up, is a fear i don't think i'll ever get over.

the "best" (not really) part of being autistic is easily the special interests/hyperfixations you get. my special interest is literally what's made me one of the least depressive people on this site, because it's the only noise my brain ever makes. it's also a big aspect of why i haven't ctb'd. pretty sure that, when i'm dead, my special interest will not be there waiting for me.

 

[dragonofenvy]

Because you are smarter. That is why. Dumber people cant comprehend the fact that someone could be so much more intellectual than them it burns them to the core. I grew up bullied and the psychologist would label me "autistic" I have done so much research into this. Trust me. A lot of these tests are based on me in my younger years. Most of the symptoms of "autism" stem from childhood neglect. The people that studied psychology around my age bracket were the less intelligent so you have to take what they say with a grain of salt.

What tests did you take to confirm?

Psychological exams when I was a child. They threw in the Asperger's diagnosis when I was very young, about 3 years old. Perhaps I was being neglected as infant. I don't know. But I doubt it from what my dad said. I remember having to look at photos and identify the emotion the people were expressing. One answer I gave to my parent's wedding photo was "How should I know? I'm not them. They could be feeling a million different things." Obviously, this answer wasn't when I was 3. I think I was 12 when I said that.

However, the physiologic nature of autism still hasn't been addressed. The bigger brain part for one, among other things. I'm also not sure if child neglect = autism because there are children who have been neglected and they do not get the same diagnoses. There are more children who are neglected than those who are autistic. One in 4 children are abused in some way to be precise. Yet autism only accounts for about 1% of the population. This is the part that confuses me as to why it could be fake when there's this to consider.

 

[lonelyloner1999]

this is a little hard to answer. i was diagnosed as an infant with aspergers syndrome, which is just very high functioning autism. the symptoms don't go away, but you do learn what is/isn't socially acceptable behavior (and i'd assume this is what gives some people the misconception that you "grow out of autism.") most people in real life don't think i'm autistic. hell, my own father doubts my diagnosis was legit. but even with time, i still cannot socialize to save my life, don't know basic social cues (unsaid rules go over my head), and i need people to communicate their needs directly. i also get special interests... they're just never useful or impressive skills, like the ones you see in autistic savants.

autism is (in)directly responsible for a lot of my embarrassing memories growing up, because not understand social cues and being socially inept... definitely makes for some terrible scenarios with painfully predictable results. self-loathing, not so much, but embarrassing myself like that again, no matter how much i've grown up, is a fear i don't think i'll ever get over.

the "best" (not really) part of being autistic is easily the special interests/hyperfixations you get. my special interest is literally what's made me one of the least depressive people on this site, because it's the only noise my brain ever makes. it's also a big aspect of why i haven't ctb'd. pretty sure that, when i'm dead, my special interest will not be there waiting for me.

Its because you are not. Just be who you are. Autism isn't real. There was something I read on quora as to why they false diagnose. I will find the link. Social skills are learnt. You are not born with them. The more you practice the better you get. If anyone rejects you because you are being you just leave them. They are not worth your time. Your "special" interests are not special. Everyone has things they like some people more than others. The fact you can concentrate on something and learn about it thoroughly is a skill people wished they had. They can have the skill if they were not lazy. They will make excuses for their laziness by demonizing those who are not lazy. I will find the quora link for you. I tried finding the link but can't find it. But I've been working as an uber eats driver for a few years now been to every part of London and I have not come across a single autistic person. Just Normal people with different and similar interests which is normal within a population. Not everyone is going to like the same thing. Branch out travel around and meet more people. You will see for yourself what I'm talking about.

 

[TheHolySword]

idk it's just kinda funny now i guess

 

[dragonofenvy]

London and I have not come across a single autistic person.

Most people do not know autistic people are autistic. They classify them as weird, or socially awkward. There is no way to tell. The only ones you can tell are those are are intellectually disabled autists. Usually, they die very early, often their parents kill them. If not, health problems kill them at a very young age. Else, they're completely sheltered from the rest of society. If I had you as my Uber driver, you wouldn't know I was autistic.

Social skills are learnt. You are not born with them. The more you practice the better you ge

Yes, HOWEVER, infants are able to recognize facial expressions in their parents. There are SOME social skills that are innate. Not ALL, SOME. Having autism simply makes things a lot more difficult but not completely insurmountable. The reason they give these labels out is to - in theory - help those who have the label regardless if it's real or not. The label is still there. It is up to the individual what to do with the label. If you want to say that it's fake, fine. If I want to keep saying that it is real, that is my prerogative as well.

I must admit, that for a label, what I have learned about it has helped me at a personal level. A lot better than simply waving it away as it being fake. If I didn't embrace it, I wouldn't have the capability of introspection and would be spending a lot more time confused as to why I behave in ways others do not deem acceptable.

 

[lonelyloner1999]

Psychological exams when I was a child. They threw in the Asperger's diagnosis when I was very young, about 3 years old. Perhaps I was being neglected as infant. I don't know. But I doubt it from what my dad said. I remember having to look at photos and identify the emotion the people were expressing. One answer I gave to my parent's wedding photo was "How should I know? I'm not them. They could be feeling a million different things." Obviously, this answer wasn't when I was 3. I think I was 12 when I said that.

However, the physiologic nature of autism still hasn't been addressed. The bigger brain part for one, among other things. I'm also not sure if child neglect = autism because there are children who have been neglected and they do not get the same diagnoses. There are more children who are neglected than those who are autistic. One in 4 children are abused in some way to be precise. Yet autism only accounts for about 1% of the population. This is the part that confuses me as to why it could be fake when there's this to consider.

What these psychologist/therapists do instead of doing their job right and helping you heal from any mental trauma you may have is they will label you as something you are not to drag out therapy sessions to extract as much money as possible. Its cruel and wicked. Look at the result people on a forum looking to end their lives because of lies. Tell yourself you are not autistic. Practice talking to other people in public settings. Its used to give me crazy anxiety when I done it but you learn from experience. If something or situation doesn't feel right run far away. Trust your gut instinct. Don't be afraid to set and assert boundaries if you feel like someone is crossing them tell them no. If they make physical threats the police is there. The gym is also a good tool. If you have a strong body people will be less inclined to try any funny sheet with you.

 

[TheHolySword]

What these psychologist/therapists do instead of doing their job right and helping you heal from any mental trauma you may have is they will label you as something you are not to drag out therapy sessions to extract as much money as possible. Its cruel and wicked. Look at the result people on a forum looking to end their lives because of lies. Tell yourself you are not autistic. Practice talking to other people in public settings. Its used to give me crazy anxiety when I done it but you learn from experience. If something or situation doesn't feel right run far away. Trust your gut instinct. Don't be afraid to set and assert boundaries if you feel like someone is crossing them tell them no. If they make physical threats the police is there. The gym is also a good tool. If you have a strong body people will be less inclined to try any funny sheet with you.

autism is real. i promise it won't hurt you. everything is gonna be okay

 

[lonelyloner1999]

Most people do not know autistic people are autistic. They classify them as weird, or socially awkward. There is no way to tell. The only ones you can tell are those are are intellectually disabled autists. Usually, they die very early, often their parents kill them. If not, health problems kill them at a very young age. Else, they're completely sheltered from the rest of society. If I had you as my Uber driver, you wouldn't know I was autistic.

Yes, HOWEVER, infants are able to recognize facial expressions in their parents. There are SOME social skills that are innate. Not ALL, SOME. Having autism simply makes things a lot more difficult but not completely insurmountable. The reason they give these labels out is to - in theory - help those who have the label regardless if it's real or not. The label is still there. It is up to the individual what to do with the label. If you want to say that it's fake, fine. If I want to keep saying that it is real, that is my prerogative as well.

I must admit, that for a label, what I have learned about it has helped me at a personal level. A lot better than simply waving it away as it being fake. If I didn't embrace it, I wouldn't have the capability of introspection and would be spending a lot more time confused as to why I behave in ways others do not deem acceptable.

I'm a very Good people person trust me. Like anything in life you learn from experience. Practice and practice and your social skills will improve. I'm speaking from experience myself. A lot of the "autism" criteria studies are actually based on me it's a long story to get into but trust me.

autism is real. i promise it won't hurt you. everything is gonna be okay

If thats what you think you are entitled to your opinion. I think and I know if you work on your social skills by practicing you will get better at interacting with people. Try it and keep trying. Treat it as a "special interest"

 

[dragonofenvy]

What these psychologist/therapists do instead of doing their job right and helping you heal from any mental trauma you may have is they will label you as something you are not to drag out therapy sessions to extract as much money as possible. Its cruel and wicked. Look at the result people on a forum looking to end their lives because of lies. Tell yourself you are not autistic. Practice talking to other people in public settings. Its used to give me crazy anxiety when I done it but you learn from experience. If something or situation doesn't feel right run far away. Trust your gut instinct. Don't be afraid to set and assert boundaries if you feel like someone is crossing them tell them no. If they make physical threats the police is there. The gym is also a good tool. If you have a strong body people will be less inclined to try any funny sheet with you.

Everything you said is correct. Hell, I made a post about therapy ruining my life. I agree with you on every point here, but telling myself autism isn't real doesn't change the fact that I'm fundamentally different from others.

A lot of the "autism" criteria studies are actually based on me it's a long story to get into but trust me.

I'm very curious about this because I've had researchers interview me as well, but I don't think I alone ever shaked the world of medicine to be one of the main topics of research the DSM-5 used for autism. Not only this, but the physiology still isn't being addressed.

Your message is a good one. You shouldn't let a label tear you down. That being said, regardless of the label or not, there's still difficulties you need to face and overcome. Telling yourself instead, that you're good enough for X is a better way to go about it than saying "I'm not autistic." Because once you fail, you will think that you're lying to yourself. Or worse, think that you are incapable. And you WILL fail. You will not be perfect every time.

So how about this, it doesn't matter if it is real or not. What matters if whether or not you let the label affect you. Because inevitably, people will be labeled with different things. That's how life is.

 

[lonelyloner1999]

https://liberationjourney.com/reading-the-mind-in-the-eyes-test/

Great test for anyone. It will help you. Even if you get low. Keep at it. Practice and practice it will help you with your social skills as well.

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

Ashamed. I was diagnosed too late to be able to receive any support for it, and I'm developmentally stunted as a result. Have to constantly fight with my own executive dysfunction to be able to do anything, and I don't have friends because socializing is extremely difficult for me.

Even the supposed upside (special interests and the passion that comes from them) doesn't even feel like much of an upside. They're little more than obsessions that my mind fixate on because I can never do anything with them. What's the point of having special interests if I can't translate them into anything, like so many autistic people seemingly can? There's this perception that even though autistic people are lacking in some areas, they excel in others. I have yet to do so, because my best is painfully average by comparison.

I wish I could take pride in it like a lot of other autistic people can, but I don't see it as anything other than a hindrance.

 

[lonelyloner1999]

Everything you said is correct. Hell, I made a post about therapy ruining my life. I agree with you on every point here, but telling myself autism isn't real doesn't change the fact that I'm fundamentally different from others.

I'm very curious about this because I've had researchers interview me as well, but I don't think I alone ever shaked the world of medicine to be one of the main topics of research the DSM-5 used for autism. Not only this, but the physiology still isn't being addressed.

Your message is a good one. You shouldn't let a label tear you down. That being said, regardless of the label or not, there's still difficulties you need to face and overcome. Telling yourself instead, that you're good enough for X is a better way to go about it than saying "I'm not autistic." Because once you fail, you will think that you're lying to yourself. Or worse, think that you are incapable. And you WILL fail. You will not be perfect every time.

Autism has a negative connotation attached to it thats why I say don't label yourself as it. Label yourself as just a normal person and you will be. Trust me try it. Even if you are rejected keep at it.

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

Autism has a negative connotation attached to it thats why I say don't label yourself as it. Label yourself as just a normal person and you will be. Trust me try it. Even if you are rejected keep at it.

Before I block you, I gotta ask: what exactly is your goal here? Do you honestly think you can singlehandedly disprove a neurological condition's existence just because people can learn social skills? I'm very curious.

 

[dragonofenvy]

Autism has a negative connotation attached to it thats why I say don't label yourself as it. Label yourself as just a normal person and you will be. Trust me try it. Even if you are rejected keep at it.

My edited message didn't update in time for your reply. I just wanted to say that we agree at the fundamental level, it's just we're using different wording and getting hung up on the tiny details. The one thing I will say, if you're open to critiques to bring to the future with you, is that it should've been your message first, rather than saying "autism is fake." We both had the same thought about not letting labels affect us, but our wording on it was so different that it felt like we were an opposing ends of a rope. It's hard for people to understand exactly what you're trying to get at when you start off with something like that.