If you had to chose, would you go with SN or gun/shotgun?

[Life Is My Coffin]

I would die by shotgun.
Cuz
1) That is how the person in my default pic died (I love him)
2) It's the most brutal way to end your whole shit and my entire life has been brutal, so it would be very fitting that it ends in the most brutal way possible. I want my corpse to look so shockingly gruesome that a goregrind band will use it as a album cover

 

[wanttodie]

Shotgun to the in my heart

 

[Vicolo cieco]

With my handgun (Beretta 98FS). The only issue is gathering up the courage to pull the trigger.

 

[Nazzeth]

I'd use a gun on my heart. I want to be in control of what happens and I wouldn't want to shoot myself in the head and leave a mess. Plus I believe that our heart keeps our soul so it would be appropriate to release it by stabbing or shooting it.

 

[aroll]

Definitely gun, if i had access to any firearms I would be gone for a while now

 

[UKscotty]

Gun every time.

Instant, painless and almost 100% if hollow points are used.

Personally I don't like poisons, they are far too slow, painful and unreliable for me. I need quick and painless - both physically and emotionally.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

Right now sn

 

[lost_ange1]

I would go for a shotgun. Unfortunately I do not have access to guns.

For me it feels easier to pull the trigger while holding a gun to my head than drinking a bad tasting liquid that slowly affects your body. I don't like chemicals and thinking about how wrong it can go, the possible pain, the side effects of the SN.. And the danger that when you pass out and someone finds you soon enough your plan fails. A shotgun would do the job, maybe messy but quick; one pull and your brain is gone, you are gone, it's over.

 

[LostSoul1965]

Shotgun to the Head has a 99% success rate while with SN it is around 70-80%. So I would definitely prefer to go with the Shotgun

Where exactly did you get this information? Do you have facts and statistics to back this up or is it an opinion?

 

[unabletocope]

Gun, pretty hard to fail.

 

[SeekingPeace164]

Where exactly did you get this information? Do you have facts and statistics to back this up or is it an opinion?

i think the SN statistic is from the PPeH (8/10 reliability)? And the shogun one is from the lost all hope website

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Most likely SN. I know that, if done correctly, a gun is really close to having an "off switch" which we can press that instantly kills us. However, the thought of putting a gun inside my mouth, aiming it for my brainstem and pulling the trigger terrifies me so much to where I don't think I'd be able to do it. SN, on the other hand, wouldn't give me so much of a mental challenge that a gun would give me so I would choose SN.

For me, having SN is significantly better than having a gun. SN seems relatively peaceful for me. Also, I prefer poison type methods, the best one that I prefer is nembutal of course

 

[LaughingGoat]

Where exactly did you get this information? Do you have facts and statistics to back this up or is it an opinion?

The data on SN outcomes are worse than what the comment stated, ranging from 30%-60% fatality rates on the 2 studies which did review of 5-11 years worth of data. Reviews of rates probably will increase with time as it has become a more common method and people are more educated on proper set up.

SIGW fatality rates vary significantly by caliber of gun used, seriously surprising how many use .22 (often just chosen since people use what they own) which is a very weak caliber if you're not familiar with guns. The other major issue is people aiming improperly. Also surprising how many aim at chest instead of head with a handgun. Even with all that, rates sit around 90% which are still by far the efficacious method. Beyond that I've tried in the past to find a single case of a survived attempt by shotgun where people did it properly (gun in mouth, aim at brain) and could not. Every case you find with the person surviving is because they put it under their chin and shoot their face off.

First 2 studies quantifies SN rates, third includes firearm rates.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/24734306.2021.1972691?needAccess=true

Rising incidence and high mortality in intentional sodium nitrite exposures reported to US poison centers - PubMed

The incidence of intentional self-poisoning with sodium nitrite has been increasing since 2017. Many of these exposures result in toxicity requiring antidotal therapy, and a high mortality rate was observed. Recent literature indicates that this trend may be the result of ready access to this...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032721013732

 

[secondaryinfertiliy]

SN. While gunshots can be effective, I have seen the devastating aftermath of surviving one, and I am terrified of being trapped in an assisted living facility, severely brain damaged, and unable to make another attempt. It is a fate worse than death

 

[Pepper]

SHOTGUN. Main reason being it's such a striking visual. You're turning your body into modern art, into something that will live in the minds of those who see it way after you've been buried and forgotten.

This. Except I'm a bit more fucked up, and would leave my mangled bits on display to (hopefully) traumatize my family. They've done enough traumatizing me. That can be the last picture burned into their brains of me.

 

[ImTelling]

This. Except I'm a bit more fucked up, and would leave my mangled bits on display to (hopefully) traumatize my family. They've done enough traumatizing me. That can be the last picture burned into their brains of me.

Dang.

 

[errorsinmypast]

My gun of course.

Ruger 9mm DC89. Using 147 grain underwood hollow points. Contact slightly above right ear.

Then sweet everlasting peace.

You make it sound so smooth and easy

 

[SeekingPeace164]

The data on SN outcomes are worse than what the comment stated, ranging from 30%-60% fatality rates on the 2 studies which did review of 5-11 years worth of data. Reviews of rates probably will increase with time as it has become a more common method and people are more educated on proper set up.

SIGW fatality rates vary significantly by caliber of gun used, seriously surprising how many use .22 (often just chosen since people use what they own) which is a very weak caliber if you're not familiar with guns. The other major issue is people aiming improperly. Also surprising how many aim at chest instead of head with a handgun. Even with all that, rates sit around 90% which are still by far the efficacious method. Beyond that I've tried in the past to find a single case of a survived attempt by shotgun where people did it properly (gun in mouth, aim at brain) and could not. Every case you find with the person surviving is because they put it under their chin and shoot their face off.

First 2 studies quantifies SN rates, third includes firearm rates.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/24734306.2021.1972691?needAccess=true

Rising incidence and high mortality in intentional sodium nitrite exposures reported to US poison centers - PubMed

The incidence of intentional self-poisoning with sodium nitrite has been increasing since 2017. Many of these exposures result in toxicity requiring antidotal therapy, and a high mortality rate was observed. Recent literature indicates that this trend may be the result of ready access to this...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032721013732

30-60%? God that's awful… I'm wondering how many of them did the proper protocol though and the purity of it, and whether they did any of the protocol like fasting and AEs

 

[LaughingGoat]

30-60%? God that's awful… I'm wondering how many of them did the proper protocol though and the purity of it, and whether they did any of the protocol like fasting and AEs

Probably has something to do with it, however given that it takes a lot more knowledge to even know about SN and acquire it, I would think most are more way educated on proper use compared to over types of ODs where people just use whatever they can get OTC.

 

[MrOptions]

You make it sound so smooth and easy

It is with a steady hand. Had my pistol since 1997. Just waiting for life to get so shitty and put my plan into action.

 

[errorsinmypast]

It is with a steady hand. Had my pistol since 1997. Just waiting for life to get so shitty and put my plan into action.

I'm envious you have the option of a pistol, I'd not be able to get my mitts on one where I live. On a positive note, I'm glad life isn't shitty enough that you have to use your pistol right now. Long may it last huh

 

[Arachno]

I would go with a gun, an intermediate or a fully powered rifle, If I could I would pick a M1A or an AK-74-type rifle. Handguns .38 caliber and above and shotguns would be fine too though. I prefer the idea of dying basically instantly if done correctly over poisoning and nausea. I would probably fail with SN.
But I'm also more for firearms because I'm really interested in them and like them.

Ruger 9mm DC89. Using 147 grain underwood hollow points. Contact slightly above right ear.

I love Ruger P pistols, good choice I guess haha

 

[UnbelievableJelly]

I had access to a gun a while ago but chickened out. Regret it. Hoping to be able to buy SN

 

[lizzywizzy09]

A handgun. If anyone wants a partner to go via handgun, pm me.

 

[_Minsk]

gun is too brutal for me, I know im a pussy. Having a salty drink with benzos and some painkillers seems to be more gentle

 

[Artemisia]

Definitely gun! Almost foolproof, quick, no preparion whatsoever. Don't care at all about the mess. It's said that women are less prone to ctb by gun because even in death they want to look good. Sorry it that always sounded stupid to me. I'd rather have a quick, guaranteed way out than look good.

 

[All_is_in_vanity]

Guns. I want it to be flashy.

 

[LaughingGoat]

Definitely gun! Almost foolproof, quick, no preparion whatsoever. Don't care at all about the mess. It's said that women are less prone to ctb by gun because even in death they want to look good. Sorry it that always sounded stupid to me. I'd rather have a quick, guaranteed way out than look good.

The difference in choice is far more likely due to women naturally having far less propensity towards violence than us given our natural testosterone and upbringing. I'm sure you didn't mean anything disrespectful by the comment, just want to clear that up.

 

[aidic]

Both. Failsafe.

 

[Sk1rtd4b]

that's… an oddly beautiful and interesting way of putting it

Very selfish in my opinion, people have different morals though so I'm not going to judge.