If you had to chose, would you go with SN or gun/shotgun?

[Ww42]

Ive been involuntarily committed so a gun is out of my options, so SN for me

 

[Saturn_]

I could never hope to get a shotgun in the foreseeable future because of my living situation and parents, but I'd probably choose that if I could. What scares me the most about SN is that I'll just be... sitting there, for 10-20 minutes, in a brutal fight with SI until I fall unconscious and die. Once you've overcome the SI from pointing a loaded gun to your head, you've already pulled the trigger, and that's it. You'd already be dead. No panic, no pain, no regrets.

 

[ecliptic]

If I lived in the United States I would use a shotgun to the head but I live in the UK.

 

[SeekingPeace164]

Very selfish in my opinion, people have different morals though so I'm not going to judge.

i definitely liked the "turning body to modern art" more than the "living in the minds of others". In my ideal scenario, I'd do it deep in the woods and never be found. Less ideal would be in my car on the side of a quiet country road. Least ideal would be in my apartment.

 

[Artemisia]

The difference in choice is far more likely due to women naturally having far less propensity towards violence than us given our natural testosterone and upbringing. I'm sure you didn't mean anything disrespectful by the comment, just want to clear that up.

This is something I read in a study years ago, not my opinion. I most certainly didn't mean any disrespect, it's just what it is. And being female myself, never made much sense to me.

 

[.dreamless.]

Gun combined with hanging

 

[DexterMorgan]

SN. I want to enjoy my final moments and drift off. SN is more risky of course, but why would you want your final moments be spent scared and it just be cut off? Go by a lake. River. Nice scenery. Take SN. Drift off. Perfect. Also shotgun is lower risk but consequences are way more severe. You would end up faceless and have no eyes or nose or... face. sn you would at max be partially disabled for a bit lol.

 

[Onelegman]

I choose the shotgun, very short pain, once your brain takes massive damage the rest doesn't matter, you end up brainless, literally

 

[lifewasawillowtv]

Gunshot all the way. It's the method I have in a weird way romanticised the most, it's pretty much instant if you hit the right spot. Sn you slowly poison yourself and feel yourself dying, I think that would freak me out personally. However guns aren't accessible where I live so realistically it would have to be sn. In an ideal world I would choose gunshot but then in an ideal world I wouldn't be in this situation in the first place cus I would have died at birth instead.

 

[LaughingGoat]

This is something I read in a study years ago, not my opinion. I most certainly didn't mean any disrespect, it's just what it is. And being female myself, never made much sense to me.

Gotcha, my mistake I honestly assumed you were male and come across too many incels online. My bad for jumping the gun.

 

[Artemisia]

Gotcha, my mistake I honestly assumed you were male and come across too many incels online. My bad for jumping the gun.

No problem!

 

[suffering_mo]

The data on SN outcomes are worse than what the comment stated, ranging from 30%-60% fatality rates on the 2 studies which did review of 5-11 years worth of data. Reviews of rates probably will increase with time as it has become a more common method and people are more educated on proper set up.

SIGW fatality rates vary significantly by caliber of gun used, seriously surprising how many use .22 (often just chosen since people use what they own) which is a very weak caliber if you're not familiar with guns. The other major issue is people aiming improperly. Also surprising how many aim at chest instead of head with a handgun. Even with all that, rates sit around 90% which are still by far the efficacious method. Beyond that I've tried in the past to find a single case of a survived attempt by shotgun where people did it properly (gun in mouth, aim at brain) and could not. Every case you find with the person surviving is because they put it under their chin and shoot their face off.

First 2 studies quantifies SN rates, third includes firearm rates.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/24734306.2021.1972691?needAccess=true

Rising incidence and high mortality in intentional sodium nitrite exposures reported to US poison centers - PubMed

The incidence of intentional self-poisoning with sodium nitrite has been increasing since 2017. Many of these exposures result in toxicity requiring antidotal therapy, and a high mortality rate was observed. Recent literature indicates that this trend may be the result of ready access to this...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032721013732

@LaughingGoat Do you know the statistics on a shot to the chest, either by shotgun or .357? I'm wondering if SI might be easier for me to overcome this way, though I am not sure how I could get a shotgun to my chest as I don't have long enough arms.

 

[AmberianDawn]

If I knew how to shoot, I would use a gun, but since I don't know and I have seen cases of people who were left alive, I prefer the SN

 

[Dusk till dawn]

It depends on the power of the shotgun, a precise shot in my heart would kill me directly with no chance of saving me, so id choose shotgun because it's quicker to use and there's no way to recover if you hit a vital spot like your heart

 

[LaughingGoat]

@LaughingGoat Do you know the statistics on a shot to the chest, either by shotgun or .357? I'm wondering if SI might be easier for me to overcome this way, though I am not sure how I could get a shotgun to my chest as I don't have long enough arms.

People survive gunshot wounds with cardiac damage more often than most would think (still low, maybe 10-25% depending what source you look at) but there's no real data on it for SIGW for the hearts specifically, not even factoring in things like the person is shooting with contact to chest and using a larger caliber. So I would say it would definitely be more reliable than stabbing the heart or a lot of methods, but I wouldn't personally be 100% confident in dying immediately from it.

 

[SeekingPeace164]

@LaughingGoat Do you know the statistics on a shot to the chest, either by shotgun or .357? I'm wondering if SI might be easier for me to overcome this way, though I am not sure how I could get a shotgun to my chest as I don't have long enough arms.

You could theoretically get a Remington TAC-14 or Mossberg Shockwave. Both have 14 inch barrels, so much easier to point to chest. I'm unsure of how quick or certain death would be, but based on some googling could be pretty quick

 

[Afflicted]

@LaughingGoat Do you know the statistics on a shot to the chest, either by shotgun or .357? I'm wondering if SI might be easier for me to overcome this way, though I am not sure how I could get a shotgun to my chest as I don't have long enough arms.

Try and track down a mossberg shockwave. I don't know how long your arms are but I guarantee you could pull off the angle for the heart shot.

 

[Edpal247]

GUN

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

It's not available to me, but I'd choose a gun, aim for that cerebellum and out. (Sorry for the mess I left behind.)

A lot of people here are fixated on SN, but I'm not convinced this is a peaceful death, even if you combine it with all those meds.

 

[andreamysk]

For those who don't live in the US, I don't think it's that easy to recover a firearm (and I, personally, fear I would make a mess )

 

[1043169]

Handgun and temple or mouth. But I'm in Canada so that's a no.

SN impossible to get. Sounds complicated too.

 

[Tony24]

Definitely gun. Death is essentially instantaneous. With SN you have time to think before the effects take over.

For me, attaining a firearm is easier than acquiring the SN, anyways.

 

[Buffy]

Though I prefer to have a slow death, I'm tired of ingesting poisons, so I'd choose the gun. It's simple and painless.

 

[Placo]

Gun, it is not clear whether SN is painless or not despite many people looking for it as if it were the perfect suicide method.

 

[Abra]

I'd go with gun. It's instant, basically 100% success rate, you can't be saved, and because it's instant, you wouldn't feel any pain.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

It should be shotgun by any metric but I don't know if I could ever bring myself to discharge one on myself.

 

[J1214]

Due to a decision made by a Judge, I cannot legally own a gun.

Not that this reality matters because even if I could get a gun, I'm too much of a coward so I'm using SN.

If I had the balls to use one I would get a shotgun.

 

[Defenestration]

Shotgun more lethal

 

[SoulWhisperer]

I'd probably go with the gun because it'd be much faster and quickly lethal.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

both together . Drink SN then immediately shoot myself , no hesitation , pick up shotgun . point against my head click. Ronnie Mcnutt