If you could destroy the world in your final moments, would you?

[Huntfish34]

There you go Void,. Thanks guys. Enough said.

 

[Sunset Limited]

What are you basing this on?

I am thoroughly convinced that no topic is more impossible to reach common ground on, after discussing this various times throughout my life.

It would have to start with a discussion of what you define as joy, followed by an introduction to the philosophical concept of the asymmetry of pleasure and suffering.
But it never goes anywhere, ever.

Is joy eating food to delay hunger? Taking a poo? Having sex? Watching your favourite movie?

Would you really withstand having your skin ripped off while you're alive to enjoy those things? Say, if it was the sensation without the long term, permanent damage (for the sake of arguement). But suffering lasts longer than pleasure anyway.

The idea is that there are people ripping other people's skin off as torture (not to mention all the famine, sickness and disease), and that would all cease peacefully along with the joy aspects of life, like Tim and Jenny getting a new Lego set from Walmart on their birthday

I agree with you. Moreover, why do billions of people in Asia enslave so that those in the west can get their phones cheaper? They work 10-12 hours a day just to keep breathing. I do not accept happiness in prosperous societies where the price is paid with the tears and blood of other people. This world is like a big labor camp where people who didn't choose to be born are enslaved. Nothing can justify this. If there was a button in front of me that would destroy everything, I would have to fight myself not to press it. I hate all this human abuse and insensitivity. It makes me sick. Fortunately, I won't have to see any more soon.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

Most people do want to live

Like.... Isn't it clear from this forum that it is made extremely difficult to die without agony? How can you honestly say people want to live when they cannot even leave?

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'Data from NHS Digital1 show that 70.9 million prescriptions for antidepressants were given out in 2018, compared with 36 million in 2008.'

That is a lot... And this in a wealthy country where medication is available.

there is more incentive to live than to die

Yeah because dying is terrifying and N is banned for humans but not dogs.

One person's immense suffering is not the collective responsibility of others. It's kinda like saying; I can't go to the pool because of something, nobody else should, kinda.

We are talking in hypotheticals here. If it was possible to press a button. Of course any given individual without those magical powers doesn't have the responsibility.

Most people just haven't experienced it yet

Depression is rapidly increasing worldwide. And billions of people live in soulcrushing poverty. Idk how you can say this.

There you go Void,. Thanks guys. Enough said.

Sorry I can't tell if this is sarcastic.

 

[Superdeterminist]

Yes I would, I have so much hatred for life, elimination of it would guarantee no more suffering. And it would be revenge against all the people who have messed with me.

 

[DPJ187]

Revenge is a terrible thing. Life is not about blaming others for ones short comings or failures. If you blame others you haven't tried hard enough yourself because if I give up or give in it wont be someone else who gets the blame it will be me. I carry me on my shoulder, no I am my shoulder I will push with all my might I shall fight with every breath I have and I will not stop until I am beat, but when I am beat I shall know it, I shall understand the moral of the tale. For it was me that tried, it was me that tried and failed.

 

[dreambound]

It may well already be out of our hands, maybe mother earth will shuffle her feet , acknowledge the time for some serious pest control
& annihilate the human animal in order to save everything else....

 

[Weebster]

No I wouldn't. Nobody has the right to destroy the planet, no matter how bad you feel. It's evil, cruel and selfish. This is not a good way to think and feel mate.

Mwahaha

"Destroy" makes it sound like your hypothetical contains bombs or something.
What do you have in mind when you picture this?

If a button simultaneously administered N into every human then that is actually a net good ethically. (People kind of just conveniently focus on their bubble in the world, when right at this second there is unfathomable suffering happening to millions upon millions of animals -- this includes humans of course).
But I struggle to see it as such if it is nukes or something heinous like that.

Every atom on earth splitting at the same time

 

[Messgram]

yes i would, this is the world that brought me so much suffering so i have every reason to destroy it

 

[Al Cappella]

Besides, I think it's all just posing. The actual truth is, outside whatever little circle a person is in, there is little to no impact on anything. It's exceedingly rare.

And the majority—read nearly all—people do want to live. It's in the numbers. It's less than 1% that suicide. It would be so much easier if a genetic test for suicidality were available. Then you'd know. If you don't have the genes then you'll never do it. Period.

 

[Messgram]

No I wouldn't. Nobody has the right to destroy the planet, no matter how bad you feel. It's evil, cruel and selfish. This is not a good way to think and feel mate.

what you define as "evil, bad, selfish" are nothing more than teachings constructed by society, because morality is subjective. Don't worry, if the world doesn't exist anymore, evil won't either, therefore I can't be one.

 

[Weebster]

what you define as "evil, bad, selfish" are nothing more than teachings constructed by society, because morality is subjective. Don't worry, if the world doesn't exist anymore, evil won't either, therefore I can't be one.

Talk of morals is just virtue signaling bullshit.

 

[watchingthewheels]

This is some cringe worthy edge lord stuff, doggin on OP for having an opinion smh i wouldnt even press the button

There's that saying: "Opinions are like"...well, you know...
(Hint: everyone's got one...)

 

[whatevs]

Talk of morals is just virtue signaling bullshit.

Dude, not everyone is ASPD or a narc. Many genuinely feel uncomfortable with the visible miseries of others, even though it's true they are never as compassionate or virtuous as they signal.

 

[Weebster]

Dude, not everyone is ASPD or a narc. Many genuinely feel uncomfortable with the visible miseries of others, even though it's true they are never as compassionate or virtuous as they signal.

You're probably right on this but my mind fights it.

I was doing research on sociopathy yesterday and I think I have aspects of it. I didn't know sociopaths can feel anxiety. The thing is I'm not impulsive. I plan out most of what I do. And I don't go out of my way to mess with people out in public.

 

[whatevs]

You're probably right on this but my mind fights it.

I was doing research on sociopathy yesterday and I think I have aspects of it. I didn't know sociopaths can feel anxiety. The thing is I'm not impulsive. I plan out most of what I do. And I don't go out of my way to mess with people out in public.

Mental health/characteristics are an spectrum, so you never need to fit everything to use the labels to better understand yourself, you just need to fit enough to be obviously different from the average. Besides, sociopathy and psychopathy are related but distinct. You can perfectly be calculating and restrained and still be part of the group.

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[WorthlessTrash]

Again, I really don't want to make others suffer. Maybe my father since he didn't use a condom, but he died of brain cancer a few years ago. All I care about now is getting relief.

I would however use my powers to do good for people once I depart if it means I get to select what I am reincarnated as (if reincarnation is a thing).

 

[Weebster]

Mental health/characteristics are an spectrum, so you never need to fit everything to use the labels to better understand yourself, you just need to fit enough to be obviously different from the average. Besides, sociopathy and psychopathy are related but distinct. You can perfectly be calculating and restrained and still be part of the group.

What’s the Difference Between a Psychopath and a Sociopath?

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When you used to say I was a psychopath/narcissist, what traits was I exhibiting? The thing is I exaggerate myself online like a cartoon character because real life is so inhibiting.

 

[Graytaichi]

Why would i bother with the world. I have my fair share of problems already. Mind my own business.

 

[whatevs]

When you used to say I was a psychopath/narcissist, what traits was I exhibiting? The thing is I exaggerate myself online like a cartoon character because real life is so inhibiting.

Callousness/comments regarding people being soft or caring about others as being soft, seeing people as instruments for your amusement, antisocial comments about not wanting to follow the herd and virtue signal.

 

[Weebster]

Callousness/comments regarding people being soft or caring about others as being soft, seeing people as instruments for your amusement, antisocial comments about not wanting to follow the herd and virtue signal.

Those things seem mild. A lot of the guys I went to school with exhibited those traits. Those behaviors seem pretty common at least among guys.

 

[whatevs]

Those things seem mild. A lot of the guys I went to school with exhibited those traits. Those behaviors seem pretty common at least among guys.

I guess the difference is whether you have enough of them carried from adolescence to adulthood. Most people I know are surprisingly more chill and less hostile than when we were in highschool. Even I, the eternal victim, fucked some people over when I saw them even more open to attacks than I was. Adolescence is a fucking postapocalyptic wasteland where everyone is trying to secure an identity and a sense of superiority.

And these traits would never be very intense in anyone normal either way, they are just relatively heightened during adolescence, particularly among males.

 

[Weebster]

I guess the difference is whether you have enough of them carried from adolescence to adulthood. Most people I know are surprisingly more chill and less hostile than when we were in highschool. Even I, the eternal victim, fucked some people over when I saw them even more open to attacks than I was. Adolescence is a fucking postapocalyptic wasteland where everyone is trying to secure an identity and a sense of superiority.

And these traits would never be very intense in anyone normal either way, they are just relatively heightened during adolescence, particularly among males.

Oh ok. I notice my traits amplify when I encounter younger people who exhibit them. I guess it's to show them that they need to move on and mess with someone else. Being a diplomatic adult doesn't intimidate.

 

[Graytaichi]

Then you are no different from the suicide bombers.

 

[DontplayGod]

Honestly it depends, if it was a button that would instantly and painlessly kill everyone than yes. No one will know they're dead and no one will care, since no one will exist, no more needless suffering, and best of all it will save everyone from a painful death

 

[Efilismislife]

Because human are hypocrite and bias unfortunately. Selective humanity.
only care about what and who they like/matters to them but dont care with outside theirs

I think life is a diseased existence that must be permanently destroyed. Billions of people are enslaved without being asked their opinion. We don't care when children die in Africa anyway. While even the food we throw away can save them. We just pretend like we care. Actually, nobody really cares. It's not fair to sacrifice even one person without asking their opinion to make someone happy. I personally don't push that button, but I don't care if the world is destroyed.

Most people do want to live,

not really. Unless you live a perfect life in a castle and cant see other people sufferings

many people got 'kidnapped' into this crazy world and 'trash' get shoved down their throat with no way to escape. They have to keep on living no matter what otherwise theyll be tortured Theres no option to exit peacefully. Enslaved. breeders breed without their victim consent.


Why dont anybody care about it? Thats murder too

And the majority—read nearly all—people do want to live. It's in the numbers. It's less than 1% that suicide. It would be so much easier if a genetic test for suicidality were available. Then you'd know. If you don't have the genes then you'll never do it. Period.

Because N is banned duh
hence people cant ctb instead they get tortured
Makes me wonder how you didnt know that if you trully suicidal. Then why you here...

 

[stupid little girl]

No. While I think society has a lot of problems and some of the things that have led me to this site were out of my control I don't think taking my anger out on others or dragging the whole world down with me is necessary. I could have made better decisions in my life. I am responsible for what happened and what will happen. There are people out there who make it work, some who came from even worse circumstances than mine. Why drag them down in my misery? It's my fault I am this way, not theirs.

 

[blvck]

I would save all the good people and get rid of the evil people.

 

[Weebster]

I would save all the good people and get rid of the evil people.

"We're all good and we're all evil."
-The night stalker serial killer

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

no just because i know they are a few very few good innocent people who dont deserve that also animals are innocent.

 

[Weebster]

no just because i know they are a few very few good innocent people who dont deserve that also animals are innocent.

Animals tear each other part all day. They are murderers.