I was never meant for this life.

[FuneralCry]

If someone wants to live, to me it does not make sense why they would be spending time trying to make suicidal people feel worse. There is no reason for people to be so unnecessarily unkind on a suicide forum. I would have thought they would be enjoying their lives instead.

Wanting to live is something that I will never understand and those people must be delusional in some way. Existence is objectively horrifying and anyone could end up in the worst pain possible and all that humans have to look forward to is old age where they will watch themselves deteriorate. To see any positive in that must be delusional.

I have been posting about this for like a year now, and there are many posts about how horrible life is, on the forum. It is a suicide forum after all and there is nothing offensive or intolerable about venting about how horrible existence is. It is just the way that I see life and I do not care if this is wrong to other people. If euthanasia was available for us all then this forum would not need to exist in the first place.

 

[Niko66]

If someone wants to live, to me it does not make sense why they would be spending time trying to make suicidal people feel worse. There is no reason for people to be so unnecessarily unkind on a suicide forum. I would have thought they would be enjoying their lives instead.

Wanting to live is something that I will never understand and those people must be delusional in some way. Existence is objectively horrifying and anyone could end up in the worst pain possible and all that humans have to look forward to is old age where they will watch themselves deteriorate. To see any positive in that must be delusional.

I have been posting about this for like a year now, and there are many posts about how horrible life is, on the forum. It is a suicide forum after all and there is nothing offensive or intolerable about venting about how horrible existence is. It is just the way that I see life and I do not care if this is wrong to other people. If euthanasia was available for us all then this forum would not need to exist in the first place.

The only offensive part is calling others delusional for trying to live . You have every right to have your own perspective of life and share it but not one of us holds an universal truth and looking down on anyone else's perspective other than those which align with your own is rude.

We don't have to agree, just respect each other's opinions.

 

[motel rooms]

I am pleased for you that you are happy but some people here are trapped in this world because they are scared of failing ctb. Their lives are only suffering.
I wish you the best.

If someone wants to live, to me it does not make sense why they would be spending time trying to make suicidal people feel worse. There is no reason for people to be so unnecessarily unkind on a suicide forum. I would have thought they would be enjoying their lives instead.

Just to be clear, I still suffer from C-PTSD & hypersexual disorder & my life is not a fairytale; if that were the case, I sure as hell wouldn't be addicted to a damn suicide forum, among other things. I wasn't unkind to you in the least; I merely disagreed with you, which is something you aren't used to.

Wanting to live is something that I will never understand and those people must be delusional in some way. Existence is objectively horrifying and anyone could end up in the worst pain possible and all that humans have to look forward to is old age where they will watch themselves deteriorate. To see any positive in that must be delusional.

That's right, dig your heels in... Keep banging on about people being delusional. You forgot to poop on love some more. You are in possession of the Objective Truth. It's unbelievable how stubborn & unwilling to see things from someone else's perspective you are.

 

[ornitier199]

cant we just ignore if something gets under the skin?

 

[motel rooms]

The only offensive part is calling others delusional for trying to live . You have every right to have your own perspective of life and share it but not one of us holds an universal truth and looking down on anyone else's perspective other than those which align with your own is rude.
We don't have to agree, just respect each other's opinions.

I honestly had no idea sweet old FuneralCry would turn out to be completely incapable of admitting her worldview is as subjective as anyone else's & purposely rude. I'm pretty weirded out.

 

[Al Cappella]

I'm actually not all that bothered by the delusional bit, and not just for argument's sake. It sometimes takes delusion (and audacity) to accomplish stuff, from the ordinary if you're struggling, to the great. Personally, I kinda actually like it, it pisses me off and motivates me.

On its face life isn't just crap—or you wouldn't see anyone make anything. The whole apparatus we type into was made by folks who clearly did not believe there was no point to anything.

It's also true that there are people who have a death grip on what they believe, and no one's ever going to tell them any differently. That's OK too, as long as they don't hurt other people. Just don't argue with them.

After all, if someone's been thrown into a volcano, it's probably not going to help faulting them for not admiring the view.

 

[whatevs]

I honestly had no idea sweet old FuneralCry would turn out to be completely incapable of admitting her worldview is as subjective as anyone else's & purposely rude. I'm pretty weirded out.

Man, you are surprised someone that copy pastes comments about how hopeless everything is for 4 years wouldn't have the most receptive reaction to contrary opinions? The shock.

cant we just ignore if something gets under the skin?

Nani??! Without (moderate) drama what is the Internet? And without Internet, what is life? I will let you pondering these big thoughts you've been graced with.

 

[Lullaby]

I'm actually not all that bothered by the delusional bit, and not just for argument's sake. It sometimes takes delusion (and audacity) to accomplish stuff, from the ordinary if you're struggling, to the great. Personally, I kinda actually like it, it pisses me off and motivates me.

On its face life isn't just crap—or you wouldn't see anyone make anything. The whole apparatus we type into was made by folks who clearly did not believe there was no point to anything.

It's also true that there are people who have a death grip on what they believe, and no one's ever going to tell them any differently. That's OK too, as long as they don't hurt other people. Just don't argue with them.

After all, if someone's been thrown into a volcano, it's probably not going to help faulting them for not admiring the view.

I agree that some people are just set in their ways and beliefs, and sometimes it's near impossible to change that.

I don't think anyone who enjoys life is delusional, but it is what it is, I guess. I feel like that sentiment used to be a lot more prominent when I was on here two years ago and people here now are definitely more pro-choice, rather than pro-suicide.

 

[whatevs]

If someone wants to live, to me it does not make sense why they would be spending time trying to make suicidal people feel worse. There is no reason for people to be so unnecessarily unkind on a suicide forum. I would have thought they would be enjoying their lives instead.

Wanting to live is something that I will never understand and those people must be delusional in some way. Existence is objectively horrifying and anyone could end up in the worst pain possible and all that humans have to look forward to is old age where they will watch themselves deteriorate. To see any positive in that must be delusional.

I have been posting about this for like a year now, and there are many posts about how horrible life is, on the forum. It is a suicide forum after all and there is nothing offensive or intolerable about venting about how horrible existence is. It is just the way that I see life and I do not care if this is wrong to other people. If euthanasia was available for us all then this forum would not need to exist in the first place.

The thing with happiness is that it doesn't mix well with delusions.

If you're consistently happy, content, at ease, satisfied, you're probably not delusional at all levels. You might be ignorant of many things, and deluded regarding others, including pain, illness, old age, but the relationships you cherish, the joy you derive from your work, the music that electrifies you, these are all very real and not delusional in any way.

Truly delusional people are miserable. They feel persecuted, oppressed, haunted, they have warped visions of the world. Like yours. On aggregate I agree, misery trump's joy in this strange, mostly hellish realm, but everyone sensible can perceive that YOU are only able to see the misery, when the joy has always been there - it's why life exists and persists. There's something about existing that people and all animals like. Delusion? More like an addiction, more like a blind lust that needs to be satiated somehow.

To pretend there's nothing to life you need to incur in obvious lies, like when you said you don't remember a single happy day in your childhood. There has never been nor will be a child that hasn't had a good day in their life.

 

[motel rooms]

It's also true that there are people who have a death grip on what they believe, and no one's ever going to tell them any differently. That's OK too, as long as they don't hurt other people. Just don't argue with them.

Man, you are surprised someone that copy pastes comments about how hopeless everything is for 4 years wouldn't have the most receptive reaction to contrary opinions? The shock.

I think it's a good thing to have discussions with people & learn things about them. I'm genuinely surprised OP insists on continuing to be rude & insensitive, I thought she'd manage to bring herself to at least half-ass an apology to protect her reputation as an empathetic person.

After all, if someone's been thrown into a volcano, it's probably not going to help faulting them for not admiring the view.

I don't have a problem with OP hating the view from the top of the volcano, I don't exactly find it beautiful myself; my point is that it's silly to deny that most of the other tourists like it just fine.

 

[FuneralCry]

I have never had a good day in my life and my life has always been suffering, every single moment of it. Also I do not 'copy and paste' comments. I have spent a lot of time over the past year writing on this forum and I know that it will never compare to some of the extremely high standard of posting that some of you have, like posting gifs, but I don't care.

It is a suicide forum so what else are people supposed to talk about apart from how hopeless everything is. It is better than insulting people. I am not stubborn or rude. I have always been very nice to everyone on this forum. Calling someone stubborn says more about the person themselves than it does me.

Life will always only be suffering for me and that is the reality. Any positive emotions in life just seem to lead to more suffering. You see many posts on this forum of people disliking hope as it causes them more pain. If there weren't so many delusional people in this world and everyone acknowledged how horrible life really is, then maybe euthanasia would be legalised everywhere and we could exit in peace.

It is horrifying that people are forced to resort to risky methods. The fact that things could get so much worse for anyone, and there is no limit as to how bad things can get is why life really is so awful.

Imagine even being too pessimistic for a suicide forum. This forum used to be full of understanding people. I may have made some depressing (realistic) posts but at least I do not go around insulting people. Hope you all enjoy your 'love' and 'happiness'.

 

[Sister of the Moon]

I'm sorry if I don't put this into words properly or eloquently, but I've been seeing pattern here for a long time.
I don't want to make anyone feel bad, but I would like to offer my perspective as clearly as I'm able.
@FuneralCry I can empathise with the pain you are clearly in. You very clearly have issues. But the things you are saying are simply not true for like 90% of people. You are projecting your own worldview onto others then doubling down. Can you not budge and think hmmmm I could be wrong?
Honestly I have seriously wondered if you're a bot. You post the same post same words, 11,000 times.
How can someone not even have one happy moment in their lives? Didn't you smile as a baby? Explore as a curious kid. If what you say is true it's tragic. Why don't your family help? Surely they must see the mess you claim to be in. Why isn't anyone stepping in to help you? Even if you had the means to ctb you've admitted several times you'd be unable to do it.
Honestly no offence intended.
Please get help.

 

[motel rooms]

It is a suicide forum so what else are people supposed to talk about apart from how hopeless everything is. It is better than insulting people. I am not stubborn or rude. I have always been very nice to everyone on this forum.

Would you consider me rude if I called you delusional for wanting to ctb? Yes. You'd be outraged, & with good reason, too. Well, you keep calling me & many other members delusional, which is stubborn & rude/insulting. Do I have to quote your dismissive comment about love again? Guess what? Many SS users have loved ones & it's rude to tell them they just think they love someone & that love can't be a good thing.

Don't get upset, most people will continue to like you. I'm the one who's gonna pay a price for daring to challenge your views.

Life will always only be suffering for me and that is the reality.

Nobody has a problem with you making as many posts about that as you want...

 

[whatevs]

Imagine even being too pessimistic for a suicide forum. This forum used to be full of understanding people. I may have made some depressing (realistic) posts but at least I do not go around insulting people. Hope you all enjoy your 'love' and 'happiness'.

Don´t be a drama queen, only some people in here are critical of your, ironically delusional themselves, posts about life being 100% misery and always a bad time. I am pro-choice and pro-euthanasia every day of the week but I don´t justify it with obvious falsities that almost everyone can refute. "The forum itself" isn´t critizing your views, only some members.

SOMETIMES life is unbearable, SOMETIMES death is preferable. Hence the forum, hence euthanasia, hence pro-choice. You are throwing the baby with the bathwater with your hyperbolic worldview and even many people that are actively suicidal will disagree with you. They HAD a good life, they know what it is. It EXISTS for many. It could exist for you, no doubt, the question is how we can arrive there? Sometimes is more economical to stop trying, since for some the requirements for a good life are too high and they can´t afford/find them.

 

[Lullaby]

Really, what's the end goal here? I agree that saying people who are happy are delusional is extreme and not true at all, but OP is incredibly depressed.

I'm sure their view of the world is completely skewed at this point, and unless any one of us is a therapist, there's really nothing anyone can do to even try and make them see differently.

I think FuneralCry is unintentionally upsetting people with some of the things she says. If people have tried explaining themselves and she's not getting it, what else can you do except put them on ignore? Because when you're going back and forth with someone who's not understanding you, it's only going to become even more irritating and frustrating.

I don't think anyone in here is wrong, but at some point you need to leave things be and accept that certain people are the way they are and there's nothing you say to help them see where you're coming from. At this point, just leave her be.

 

[whatevs]

Really, what's the end goal here? I agree that saying people who are happy are delusional is extreme and not true at all, but OP is incredibly depressed.

I'm sure their view of the world is completely skewed at this point, and unless any one of us is a therapist, there's really nothing anyone can do to even try and make them see differently.

I think FuneralCry is unintentionally upsetting people with some of the things she says. If people have tried explaining themselves and she's not getting it, what else can you do except put them on ignore? Because when you're going back and forth with someone who's not understanding you, it's only going to become even more irritating and frustrating.

I don't think anyone in here is wrong, but at some point you need to leave things be and accept that certain people are the way they are and there's nothing you say to help them see where you're coming from. At this point, just leave her be.

Very true, I had her on ignore for a long time, I guess for a good reason.

 

[Lullaby]

Very true, I had her on ignore for a long time, I guess for a good reason.

As someone who used to get into arguments online, I've pretty much trained myself to never look at ignored posts anywhere unless I'm interested in having a bad day, lol.

 

[whatevs]

As someone who used to get into arguments online, I've pretty much trained myself to never look at ignored posts anywhere unless I'm interested in having a bad day, lol.

I´m stressed as fuck right now trying to get an application to work for a presentation tomorrow so the arguments were a distraction this time but overall it´s so much healthier to agree to disagree - and that means disengaging. Ignoring is the most extreme form but if you can´t control yourself is the best.

 

[WonderingSoul]

I don't understand why OP's post is suddenly a problem. Their posts were always like this and everyone was fine with it. It doesn't matter if their worldview is way different from yours, they should have the freedom to post what they want, even if it's repetitive. If someone has doesn't like the post, then they should just ignore it.

 

[FuneralCry]

To me, the ones that cause harm are the ones that go around insulting people. I never do that. I am always nice to people on this forum. All that I have been doing is sharing my views about life and venting to pass the time. The whole point of this thread in the first place was to post about how I am not meant for life. I mean no harm to anybody unlike some people. I think the problem is that some people get offended over everything. That is simply just the way that some people are. On a suicide forum there will be people who view life as always being a terrible thing and that is to be expected.
My worldview will always be right to me. I do not see anything positive about living. Life is completely meaningless and unnecessary and I believe that I would be better off never existing.

And I am not mentally ill and I do not need any help. I am existing and dealing with life every day and that is all I can do. I am just trying to pass the time. I have never wanted to live and it is just the way that I am. I appear fine when I am around family, they know that I struggled in the past when my health was worse, but I am an expert in pretending that I am fine with living. Of course I am not, but I am not ill or irrational. I just simply think that life is not worth living and I see life as being very pointless. Maybe someday I will ctb, I do not know.

Calling people a bot, stubborn and rude is very unkind. I am clearly suffering enough and behind all these words I am a real person. I know people are just trying to get rid of me from the forum. However those words cannot hurt me.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Calling people a bot, stubborn and rude is very unkind. I am clearly suffering enough and behind all these words I am a real person. I know people are just trying to get rid of me from the forum. However those words cannot hurt me.

@FuneralCry i would just stop replying to the bait and ignore put on ignore. Just best to ignore and never reply to any post disagreeing with you. Baiting posts . It's a trap to try to get rid of you as you said.

 

[FuneralCry]

i would just stop replying to the bait and ignore put on ignore. . Just best to ignore and never reply to any post disagreeing with you. It's bait . It's a trap to try to get rid of you as you said.

I understand what you are saying, but I'm not going to let people go round spreading lies. The worst comment ever was in the other thread and I told that pro lifer the truth and it made me feel better. People cannot get away with saying cruel and unkind things. In my opinion, they need to be put right.
Edit: No matter what people say their words will never hurt me.

 

[motel rooms]

To me, the ones that cause harm are the ones that go around insulting people. I never do that.

It's insulting to call people who choose to live delusional. It's insulting to call folks pro-lifers for no good reason. You're undeniably stubborn & rude. Stubbornly rude. You doubled down on the rudeness instead of apologizing. I don't know who called you a bot, but it wasn't me.

 

[whatevs]

It's insulting to call people who choose to live delusional. It's insulting to call folks pro-lifers for no good reason. You're undeniably stubborn & rude. Stubbornly rude. You doubled down on the rudeness instead of apologizing. I don't know who called you a bot, but it wasn't me.

 

[FuneralCry]

It's insulting to call people who choose to live delusional. It's insulting to call folks pro-lifers for no good reason. You're undeniably stubborn & rude. Stubbornly rude. You doubled down on the rudeness instead of apologizing. I don't know who called you a bot, but it wasn't me.

I think calling someone stubborn and rude says more about yourself than it does me. I never go around actually insulting people. I have literally been venting about how horrible life is, that is all. I do not understand why it is so shocking and offensive to post about life being only suffering on a suicide forum. I have posted about it for a whole year and only now people see it as so wrong.

I mean no harm to others, it is just my views and there is nothing insulting about anything that I have ever written. Saying that love is not a good thing is a personal view. Other people can enjoy love all they want, I am not stopping them.

Why should I apologise. There is nothing to apologise for. I simply hate living and I view life as so horrific. Suffering is the reality of this life and there is objectively so much pain in this world. I'm sorry that I am being so pessimistic on a suicide forum. It is ridiculous to get offended over a suicidal persons venting posts.

It is not just you who was being insulting.
And also I do not call people pro lifers for no good reason. That is a lie. I am the kindest person on this forum.
I envy the people who post on here about SS being a supportive and compassionate place. This website is anything but that.
I hope you have a great life.

 

[Niko66]

I think calling someone stubborn and rude says more about yourself than it does me. I never go around actually insulting people. I have literally been venting about how horrible life is, that is all. I do not understand why it is so shocking and offensive to post about life being only suffering on a suicide forum. I have posted about it for a whole year and only now people see it as so wrong.

I mean no harm to others, it is just my views and there is nothing insulting about anything that I have ever written. Saying that love is not a good thing is a personal view. Other people can enjoy love all they want, I am not stopping them.

Why should I apologise. There is nothing to apologise for. I simply hate living and I view life as so horrific. Suffering is the reality of this life and there is objectively so much pain in this world. I'm sorry that I am being so pessimistic on a suicide forum. It is ridiculous to get offended over a suicidal persons venting posts.

It is not just you who was being insulting.
And also I do not call people pro lifers for no good reason. That is a lie. I am the kindest person on this forum.
I envy the people who post on here about SS being a supportive and compassionate place. This website is anything but that.
I hope you have a great life.

Funeral, the only bit of all you wrote before that bothered anyone is calling others delusional. I don't understand how you don't see that as potentially offensive . You seem to completely not acknowledge that bit for some reason, let me try to illustrate.

Someone likes icecream, they know most people would agree, they are in a big group and there's a couple of them who don't like icecream at all. The person says:

IE:
Ice cream is the best thing ever
I like icecream
I think everyone should have have as much icecream as they want
I can't understand how anyone doesn't like icecream
(So far so good)

I think anyone who doesn't like icecream is delusional

Don't you think that the last sentence could be bothering/upsetting to those people in the group who don't feel the exact same way as our hypothetical icecream lover? They too have tried icecream, experienced it's taste and made their own conclusion on it and wouldn't appreciate being told they are just out of their minds for their opinion. It's a matter of being tolerant to differing views.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I understand what you are saying, but I'm not going to let people go round spreading lies. The worst comment ever was in the other thread and I told that pro lifer the truth and it made me feel better. People cannot get away with saying cruel and unkind things. In my opinion, they need to be put right.
Edit: No matter what people say their words will never hurt me.

I think calling someone stubborn and rude says more about yourself than it does me. I never go around actually insulting people. I have literally been venting about how horrible life is, that is all. I do not understand why it is so shocking and offensive to post about life being only suffering on a suicide forum. I have posted about it for a whole year and only now people see it as so wrong.

I mean no harm to others, it is just my views and there is nothing insulting about anything that I have ever written. Saying that love is not a good thing is a personal view. Other people can enjoy love all they want, I am not stopping them.

Why should I apologise. There is nothing to apologise for. I simply hate living and I view life as so horrific. Suffering is the reality of this life and there is objectively so much pain in this world. I'm sorry that I am being so pessimistic on a suicide forum. It is ridiculous to get offended over a suicidal persons venting posts.

It is not just you who was being insulting.
And also I do not call people pro lifers for no good reason. That is a lie. I am the kindest person on this forum.
I envy the people who post on here about SS being a supportive and compassionate place. This website is anything but that.
I hope you have a great life.

I really like reading ur posts @FuneralCry and agree with what you say. I've seen the member that keeps insulting u fight w others similarly and then the other poster usually gets banned on this site . I Think the best thing is to put him and others attacking u on ignore . The ignore button is Really great. I'm not criticizing u just trying to help u not get banned. If u want me to explain more u can pm me . It's bait. And it's a trap.

 

[FuneralCry]

I really like reading ur posts @FuneralCry and agree with what you say. I've seen the member that keeps insulting u fight w others similarly and then the other poster usually gets banned on this site . I Think the best thing is to put him and others attacking u on ignore . The ignore button is Really great. I'm not criticizing u just trying to help u not get banned. If u want me to explain more u can pm me . It's bait. And it's a trap.

I have nothing else left to say in this thread now. Hopefully those people will just stay away. There is no need to ignore anything as words cannot hurt me. I have never done anything wrong and I will just forget about this thread.

 

[needforvoid_]

I'm actually not all that bothered by the delusional bit, and not just for argument's sake. It sometimes takes delusion (and audacity) to accomplish stuff, from the ordinary if you're struggling, to the great. Personally, I kinda actually like it, it pisses me off and motivates me.

I think that's called narcissism in psychology, they say it's good to have a bit (to live). We are kinda slaves to our emotions and urges, you realise that once you fall into deep depression and everything melts. Back when I was depressed, I was thinking to myself: someone please brainwash me into a purpose, I miss feelings. I guess evolution understood the assignment. It's still a choice. You can be aware of it and allow it.
FuneralCry could it be argued that you're delusional too then, since you're still alive

 

[motel rooms]

I think calling someone stubborn and rude says more about yourself than it does me.
And also I do not call people pro lifers for no good reason. That is a lie. I am the kindest person on this forum.

I have never done anything wrong and I will just forget about this thread.

Claiming that you are the kindest person on this forum & that you have never done anything wrong after repeatedly refusing to admit that calling other SS members delusional & anti-choice simply for disagreeing with your rigid views is rude speaks volumes about you & your level of self-awareness.

This conflict is so unnecessary... Why is it so hard for you to apologize if you're indeed the kindest person on here? Why?
Nobody hates you, nobody wants you to leave SS. We all know you're suffering & we're genuinely sorry that's the case...

Funeral, the only bit of all you wrote before that bothered anyone is calling others delusional.

This is how it all started (please read most of the replies):

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/people-who-want-to-live-in-such-an-awful-world-must-be-delusional.90272/