I took SN and survived.

[autumnal]

its defo lack of intent else they'd have prepared properly, this guy like all the others who flunked didn't even get the basics right among other things and there is no suicide without tons of planning typically, his effort seems whimsical, when will OP try again? I guess thats a fair measure.

As I already said, there is no reason why mistakes such as those from the OP couldn't have been caused by a simple lack of proper understanding.

There are few actions more universally disliked on this forum than accusing someone of not being genuine in their suicidal intent. I would suggest saving that suggestion for times when it is clearly apparent (and these do occur) rather than just speculation based on your own beliefs and standards.

 

[Anonymoussn]

its defo lack of intent else they'd have prepared properly, this guy like all the others who flunked didn't even get the basics right among other things and there is no suicide without tons of planning typically, his effort seems whimsical, when will OP try again? I guess thats a fair measure.

Perhaps we could just be supportive, and not question OPs intentions? It is not easy for a lot of people to share their experiences on here, and you quite frankly are being extremely obnoxious and spiteful and making that more difficult.

 

[ceelo]

Perhaps we could just be supportive, and not question OPs intentions? It is not easy for a lot of people to share their experiences on here, and you quite frankly are being extremely obnoxious and spiteful and making that more difficult.

My feefees, the post. Suicide is a personal responsible decision it isnt grounds for a club.

 

[SomeCities]

Since I can see from your post history that you have spent almost your entire time on this forum trolling and directing vulgar language at other members, I'm going to just ignore you and not dignify your bullying with a response.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I am easily confused. What?! Why!?

I'm assuming from the context of what was posted that he/she meant disinformation.

Yes, but it's bewildering nonetheless. @GoodPersonEffed is fond of information as far as I know. So was it a typo, or sabotage?!

I meant disinformation.

 

[somniummalum]

I don't remember. I also take psych meds. Would that interfere with SN?

read the guide on SN, as from my memory it says anti-psychotics do work as AE, but only if the dosage is high enough (f.e. Quetiapine it has to be +400mg), because only then it actually blocks dopamine, which is what you want to happen.
You can use any AE, including some anti-psychotics as long as they block dopamine.

 

[Saed]

Edited. Content deleted.
What I had expressed were thoughts that were playing on my mind.
In hindsight,it's probably best I don't share them.
Actually,it changes nothing at all.
The answer is as ever was.
@GoodPersonEffed
You may well be right and I'd hate to have posted something that may amount to the same thing.
My apologies.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

@SomeCities, I'm going to be direct about this.

Your post comes at a time when the site is being overtly attacked by pro-lifers.

It is difficult to argue with your story. It seems credible. You answer questions without defensiveness. I acknowledge that it is possible that you are telling the truth.

But I also have to acknowledge to myself that this story is rather over the top. Unless the SN was bad, I don't see a single thing in your method that would have caused failure. Seven hours is over the top. 7 out of 10 stomach pain is over the top. One pint of water over six hours causing failure is over the top. Vomiting within two minutes of ingestion is over the top. Taken in whole, your account is an extreme outlier beyond all outliers.

What is in keeping with current events is for pro-lifers to cause fear among members. I can easily imagine one of them saying, "If we got just one person to delay or give up on this certain method, we've won."

I am not casting aspersions on you. I am looking at evidence. I am paying attention to the fact that this is your very first post, offered with all the perfect words of caring and contributing, walking all the lines perfectly, and presented at a particular time in a particular climate of fearmongering. I am paying attention to all of the details of the OP and the thread and how over the top this experience was, no matter how credibly it's presented. If you're legitimate and you remain an active member, then your consistent actions will give evidence as to your character. Until then, I set this account aside and do not believe it to be valid, because it does indeed require belief, and because it provokes fear, which overrides critical thinking and executive function -- that is a warning sign that influences with controlling intentions may be at play. Personally, I always listen to warning signs first and heed them above all else, no matter how good something looks otherwise, and this simply doesn't look good enough to me to warrant my rejecting a single red flag.

I take responsibility for my own beliefs, thoughts, assessments and actions, and having thought through everything that's been presented, as well as how it's been presented, my confidence in SN and the method -- including without meto -- is not undermined. Others are responsible for their own thoughts, assessments and actions. I do not require agreement. I do not want power. I am not handing out torches and pitchforks, only my personal assessment, which I have stated respectfully and assertively.

I sincerely wish for your well-being. If I later re-assess and find I was in error, I will openly say so, assuming I'm still alive. As for others on the forum, it's up to them to analyze and determine for themselves, I'm not going to go on the attack and try to get them to disbelieve you. You see, I'm about self-determination. I'm pro-choice.

 

[SomeCities]

@SomeCities, I'm going to be direct about this.

Your post comes at a time when the site is being overtly attacked by pro-lifers.

It is difficult to argue with your story. It seems credible. You answer questions without defensiveness. I acknowledge that it is possible that you are telling the truth.

But I also have to acknowledge to myself that this story is rather over the top. Unless the SN was bad, I don't see a single thing in your method that would have caused failure. Seven hours is over the top. 7 out of 10 stomach pain is over the top. One pint of water over six hours causing failure is over the top. Vomiting within two minutes of ingestion is over the top. Taken in whole, your account is an extreme outlier beyond all outliers.

What is in keeping with current events is for pro-lifers to cause fear among members. I can easily imagine one of them saying, "If we got just one person to delay or give up on this certain method, we've won."

I am not casting aspersions on you. I am looking at evidence. I am paying attention to the fact that this is your very first post, offered with all the perfect words of caring and contributing, walking all the lines perfectly, and presented at a particular time in a particular climate of fearmongering. I am paying attention to all of the details of the OP and the thread and how over the top this experience was, no matter how credibly it's presented. If you're legitimate and you remain an active member, then your consistent actions will give evidence as to your character. Until then, I set this account aside and do not believe it to be valid, because it does indeed require belief, and because it provokes fear, which overrides critical thinking and executive function -- that is a warning sign that influences with controlling intentions may be at play. Personally, I always listen to warning signs first and heed them above all else, no matter how good something looks otherwise, and this simply doesn't look good enough to me to warrant my rejecting a single red flag.

I take responsibility for my own beliefs, thoughts, assessments and actions, and having thought through everything that's been presented, as well as how it's been presented, my confidence in SN and the method -- including without meto -- is not undermined. Others are responsible for their own thoughts, assessments and actions. I do not require agreement. I do not want power. I am not handing out torches and pitchforks, only my personal assessment, which I have stated respectfully and assertively.

I sincerely wish for your well-being. If I later re-assess and find I was in error, I will openly say so, assuming I'm still alive. As for others on the forum, it's up to them to analyze and determine for themselves, I'm not going to go on the attack and try to get them to disbelieve you. You see, I'm about self-determination. I'm pro-choice.

As I said before, I don't have an agenda. I encourage scepticism, and would always encourage people to take everything on here with a pinch of salt. I'm not trying to turn people against SN. Even with what has happened it would still be my go-to method if I had the means to try it again. The only reason I posted this is because I was surprised by the results, and felt it was therefore an important thing to share with the community.

Believe me or not, I just felt it was important to go on the record so that people could make their own assessments. I accept that I haven't done everything right. I should have tested the SN. I shouldn't have drank water within two hours of consumption. But despite that, I'm still surprised I failed.

It would obviously be nice not to have you doubtful of my version of events, but thanks for being respectful anyway. As I said, I would encourage people not to take everything at face value as well.

 

[fluxis]

As I said before, I don't have an agenda. I encourage scepticism, and would always encourage people to take everything on here with a pinch of salt. I'm not trying to turn people against SN. Even with what has happened it would still be my go-to method if I had the means to try it again. The only reason I posted this is because I was surprised by the results, and felt it was therefore an important thing to share with the community.

Believe me or not, I just felt it was important to go on the record so that people could make their own assessments. I accept that I haven't done everything right. I should have tested the SN. I shouldn't have drank water within two hours of consumption. But despite that, I'm still surprised I failed.

It would obviously be nice not to have you doubtful of my version of events, but thanks for being respectful anyway. As I said, I would encourage people not to take everything at face value as well.

I know some people don't automatically get sent to the pysch ward and immediatley get discharged from the hospital. I'm putting a pamphlet of legal notes to use in denying a discharge to a pysch ward, and I'm putting these notes in a wallet secured in my pants so in the hospital I can ask for my clothes then pull out my notes about denial of a psych ward- I made this to use incase of a failure with my SN and I get sent to the psych ward.

Do you think with four pages of legal notes about denying a visit to a psych ward, they would discharge me before then?

 

[FluffyDove]

No i havent at all, i havent made one single troll post, you just interpret it in such way because youre a professional victim... gee i wonder could that be why you're suicidal?If you don't have actual illness and you're here you get no sympathy from me. You gave me a response dipshit now be honest about what happened.

Mental illness is an illness.

 

[SomeCities]

No i havent at all, i havent made one single troll post, you just interpret it in such way because youre a professional victim... gee i wonder could that be why you're suicidal?If you don't have actual illness and you're here you get no sympathy from me. You gave me a response dipshit now be honest about what happened.

I just saw this comment, which I hadn't noticed earlier, after another member replied and brought it to my attention. I said I wasn't going to rise, but I feel compelled to now.

Well, amongst other things, I have Multiple Sclerosis and type 1 diabetes, despite only being 19 years old. Is that enough ailments to garner your sympathy, or shall I go on?

 

[KleinerWolf]

I just saw this comment, which I hadn't noticed earlier, after another member replied and brought it to my attention. I said I wasn't going to rise, but I feel compelled to now.

Well, amongst other things, I have Multiple Sclerosis and type 1 diabetes, despite only being 19 years old. Is that enough ailments to garner your sympathy, or shall I go on?

no f*ck that guy
He's not worthy of our time for reply

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Well, amongst other things, I have Multiple Sclerosis and type 1 diabetes

Not giving any appreciation whatsoever to the abuse that motivated the response, but this is important information in considering why the method failed and why you had responses so far outside the norm.

The diabetes may explain the immediate vomiting reaction. MS also causes abnormal physiological responses, for example, a loss of muscle control and inability to walk when one has a fever, therefore your body may not have responded to and processed the SN as would someone's without this condition.

With the MS, are there medications that do not work for you as they do for others?

 

[FluffyDove]

Even if you were physically fine, noone has any right to judge anyone else's reasons for being here.

 

[KuRsAnI]

read the guide on SN, as from my memory it says anti-psychotics do work as AE, but only if the dosage is high enough (f.e. Quetiapine it has to be +400mg), because only then it actually blocks dopamine, which is what you want to happen.
You can use any AE, including some anti-psychotics as long as they block dopamine.

Oh, thanks, the doctor reduced my quantity of anti-psychotics because it gave me symptoms, but it's not written in Stan's Guide at how much I need to block dopamine with my AP?