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western_heart

western_heart

trying to save ourself
May 23, 2021
622
Last week I ordered SN. It was impulsive - I did it late at night, in bed, when I couldn't sleep. I'd had an argument with my partner right before bed, about how we'd both done/said hurtful things to each other earlier in the day. I made the order because I didn't want to hurt her anymore and if I CTB, I will only hurt her once. If I'm alive, I will do things that make her life difficult, sometimes I will hurt her (like, all my CTB talk has to be pretty hard to take!), and she will spend a lot of time trying to keep me from wanting to CTB.

The day I ordered & the following day were both really painful for me. I refused to cuddle with her. I cancelled my social plans. I felt miserable and alone even though I didn't need to be. However, on the 3rd day I had gotten over things and felt safe being close to my partner again. I actually had a really nice time that day! We cuddled first thing in the morning and she was there for me all day long. But it was also the day that my SN shipped... I checked the tracking throughout the day even though I no longer wanted to use it at that point.

I felt so bad that I told my partner about the SN. I said that I ordered impulsively, but that having it would be a great comfort to me. She didn't make any judgment at first but reminded me that I technically broke my 3 day rule, of waiting before I act on any step of my suicide. In my desperation I'd forgotten about the rule & tbh since I merely ordered the SN I had found weeks prior, I'm not sure if it applies. (I decided not to order SN two weeks ago and closed the tab back then.) I told her that I'd like to keep the SN once it arrives.

The next day she did a lot to try to make me feel better, and I was debating in my head what I should do with the SN. I was thinking maybe I should just throw it away on arrival, but I wasn't 100% sure. I really do want to keep it. Before bed, my partner said that after thinking about it all day, she thinks I should get rid of it. She thinks that if I bought it impulsively, I might use it impulsively too, and that she would feel a lot better if I didn't have it. Thinking about this right before bed on an otherwise okay day really crushed me.

I was unsure of what to do until yesterday afternoon. I watched a YouTube video that triggered intense flashbacks to painful times in my life. I get flashbacks this bad once every 1-2 weeks. It hurts so much each time that I want to die. My partner eventually saw that I was triggered & tried her best to comfort me and get me ready for bed. I felt intense pain all evening, until the sleeping drugs kicked in enough for me to pass out. I kept thinking about the SN and wanting to use it. I kept thinking about jumping off of a tall building (this is not a method I will use, but the triggering video had a scene on the roof).

This morning, I don't know what I want to do. I don't feel the pain from my trauma right now, but I remember how bad I felt just twelve hours ago. I am willing to die so that I never feel that way again. I won't be able to hurt my partner anymore & I won't be hurt by the demons in my head. The SN could be in my hands as early as today and I want to keep it. I know there's treatments for PTSD that I haven't tried yet, but I want to give up rather than face one more flashback.

I don't know if my partner will force me to get rid of the SN. I don't think she'll give me permission to keep it, but will she stop me from opening the box & stashing the container? If she makes me throw it away, I'll be resentful. Part of me wants to ask her to get rid of it for me & have her stop me from killing myself for as long as my parents are still alive. Part of me wants to try to convince her to let me keep it.
 
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JustLosingMyself

Mage
Sep 4, 2018
544
Can't help you really.

It's not helpful to you, it's unfair to your partner and it's venomous to a relationship to expect or push other people to make a decision like that for you.
It's putting your partner in an impossible position where there only a lose-lose outcome for both of you.
Make your decision, and facing the consequences of it is your only option.
 
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western_heart

western_heart

trying to save ourself
May 23, 2021
622
Based on how bad I've been feeling, I am inclined to keep the SN now.

However I need to bike to pick it up. And I'm too depressed to do that today. I could have someone drive me but I don't want to get anyone else involved. I could ask to borrow a car but I don't trust my ability to drive safely anymore.
 
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loopylou

Learn to fly
Jan 11, 2021
884
All was going ok with your post till you mentioned the word ' permission'
Not cool. You are a grown adult ?
 
western_heart

western_heart

trying to save ourself
May 23, 2021
622
All was going ok with your post till you mentioned the word ' permission'
Not cool. You are a grown adult ?
Yes.

I can do what I want, but we do have a shared living space and there is some level of cooperation and compromise involved. If I told my partner I didn't want alcohol in the house, she would respect my request. I'm not "allowed" to have drugs like cocaine around either.

Ultimately I can do what I want. I am a submissive and have certain rules imposed on me, which I consented to. I can revoke consent at any time.
 
Efilismislife

Efilismislife

Psychopath family tortured me
May 25, 2021
642
Part of me wants to ask her to get rid of it for me & have her stop me from killing myself for as long as my parents are still alive. Part of me wants to try to convince her to let me keep it.

I dont underatand what you really want and what your truly intention is.... :ohh: It seems to me that you dont really wanna ctb. otherwise youre just ctb instead of wanting your partner to stop you from ctb
 
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western_heart

western_heart

trying to save ourself
May 23, 2021
622
I got the SN.

I dont underatand what you really want and what your truly intention is.... :ohh: It seems to me that you dont really wanna ctb. otherwise youre just ctb instead of wanting your partner to stop you from ctb
I don't know what I want. My feelings vary greatly from day to day. Not good
 
PrincessInWhite

PrincessInWhite

I just want to sell out my funeral
Feb 21, 2019
641
Last week I ordered SN. It was impulsive - I did it late at night, in bed, when I couldn't sleep. I'd had an argument with my partner right before bed, about how we'd both done/said hurtful things to each other earlier in the day. I made the order because I didn't want to hurt her anymore and if I CTB, I will only hurt her once. If I'm alive, I will do things that make her life difficult, sometimes I will hurt her (like, all my CTB talk has to be pretty hard to take!), and she will spend a lot of time trying to keep me from wanting to CTB.

The day I ordered & the following day were both really painful for me. I refused to cuddle with her. I cancelled my social plans. I felt miserable and alone even though I didn't need to be. However, on the 3rd day I had gotten over things and felt safe being close to my partner again. I actually had a really nice time that day! We cuddled first thing in the morning and she was there for me all day long. But it was also the day that my SN shipped... I checked the tracking throughout the day even though I no longer wanted to use it at that point.

I felt so bad that I told my partner about the SN. I said that I ordered impulsively, but that having it would be a great comfort to me. She didn't make any judgment at first but reminded me that I technically broke my 3 day rule, of waiting before I act on any step of my suicide. In my desperation I'd forgotten about the rule & tbh since I merely ordered the SN I had found weeks prior, I'm not sure if it applies. (I decided not to order SN two weeks ago and closed the tab back then.) I told her that I'd like to keep the SN once it arrives.

The next day she did a lot to try to make me feel better, and I was debating in my head what I should do with the SN. I was thinking maybe I should just throw it away on arrival, but I wasn't 100% sure. I really do want to keep it. Before bed, my partner said that after thinking about it all day, she thinks I should get rid of it. She thinks that if I bought it impulsively, I might use it impulsively too, and that she would feel a lot better if I didn't have it. Thinking about this right before bed on an otherwise okay day really crushed me.

I was unsure of what to do until yesterday afternoon. I watched a YouTube video that triggered intense flashbacks to painful times in my life. I get flashbacks this bad once every 1-2 weeks. It hurts so much each time that I want to die. My partner eventually saw that I was triggered & tried her best to comfort me and get me ready for bed. I felt intense pain all evening, until the sleeping drugs kicked in enough for me to pass out. I kept thinking about the SN and wanting to use it. I kept thinking about jumping off of a tall building (this is not a method I will use, but the triggering video had a scene on the roof).

This morning, I don't know what I want to do. I don't feel the pain from my trauma right now, but I remember how bad I felt just twelve hours ago. I am willing to die so that I never feel that way again. I won't be able to hurt my partner anymore & I won't be hurt by the demons in my head. The SN could be in my hands as early as today and I want to keep it. I know there's treatments for PTSD that I haven't tried yet, but I want to give up rather than face one more flashback.

I don't know if my partner will force me to get rid of the SN. I don't think she'll give me permission to keep it, but will she stop me from opening the box & stashing the container? If she makes me throw it away, I'll be resentful. Part of me wants to ask her to get rid of it for me & have her stop me from killing myself for as long as my parents are still alive. Part of me wants to try to convince her to let me keep it.
I would honestly be very careful of discussing this further with your partner, if you do decide to go with SN and there is any evidence she knew they;ll start invesigaing her to see if she aided you or if she knew you had a method and didn't say anything, etc. Beyond passing remarks about suicidality (that I hate being alive but have no plan etc) to my loved ones so they're not blindsided when I go, I never discuss actual methods, dates, etc because they are in no way involved with my CTB and I want that to be clear to everyone when I'm gone.
 
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Makko

Makko

Iä!
Jan 17, 2021
2,430
You should keep actual suicide plans to yourself. Don't make your partner take shared responsibility for them. "I don't know what I want" in practice means "I want to keep my options open". Hide the SN away from the shared residence and close the topic. When the time comes, you know where to find it.
 
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Drimacus

Student
Jun 9, 2021
134
Sorry, no offence. But for me your story sounds rather like a cry for help, because none of those who want to CTB will share their plans with their partner. You don't want to CTB (or at least not ready yet). Please accept it and try to find another way out from your situation.
 
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western_heart

western_heart

trying to save ourself
May 23, 2021
622
Thanks for all the responses everyone. I am obviously very conflicted. I've been emotionally unstable and survival instinct is causing me to sabotage my plans.

if I get rid of the SN I'll probably come up with another method. Probably one that requires less advance preparation the day of, one that is easier and has less of a chance of being painful. The exact moment of CTB will probably be impulsive, but I will only do it if I am sure it's what I want.
I need to stop thinking about CTB every day, but I hurt so much and my best coping mechanism for depression (ketamine) is causing me to uncover and process trauma too fast and I need to cut back.

But for me your story sounds rather like a cry for help, because none of those who want to CTB will share their plans with their partner.
It's hard for me to keep anything from her. I share all my feelings.
I know I need to keep my plans to myself though, as difficult as it will be.
 
western_heart

western_heart

trying to save ourself
May 23, 2021
622
I got rid of the SN. It was my choice, I decided Wednesday night and told my SO yesterday. she pressured me to get it done once I was sure that was what I wanted. Keeping it around was changing my thinking - I fantasized about CTB whenever things got too hard for me, instead of focusing on recovery. I want to live for as long as my parents are still alive, and my SO is holding me to that.

I'm still suicidal and probably will be for a long time. I don't think it'll ever fully go away and I'll likely CTB someday. But I am finally getting therapy for trauma and I should have sufficient support in my life to be comfortable enough for years to come. And my partner will respect my choice to go if I don't get better after treatment.
 
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western_heart

trying to save ourself
May 23, 2021
622
I re-ordered SN. Having it on the way is a huge relief. My roommate doesn't know about it and I am going to keep my mouth shut. 🤐

You should keep actual suicide plans to yourself. Don't make your partner take shared responsibility for them. "I don't know what I want" in practice means "I want to keep my options open". Hide the SN away from the shared residence and close the topic. When the time comes, you know where to find it.
This is what I am doing this time. I am now able to keep it away from home, there will be enough barriers to stop me from using it impulsively, yet close enough to still find comfort in it being available.
 
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Nolan96

Mage
Feb 12, 2022
506
A 3-day rule sounds like a good way to avoid impulsive decisions, especially considering that even within your narration of what happened it took exactly 3 days to go from being actively suicidal to feeling better and reconsidering.
 
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