Story I just tasted my veterinary N and is not that bad

[calendulo]

Ori
original bottle is gone. It's in the dark. I think it's best I can do?

Ok. If I were in your shoes............would do the next.
I do not know what size has the mason jar, but as smaller as possible, will be better, there will be less air inside of and therefore fewer oxidation, will last longer time.
Looking for a container closer of 100ml, cover it with a cork and using a syringe to do a trying to get out the air inside, as much as possible. Only will stay the minimal hole of the syringe.

 

[Mud.]

Thank you - I already Unsealed it...how long will it last?

Dr. PN from the PPH answered that question in a podcast once. I can't find it anymore (he removes podcasts sometimes) but he said N. remains lethal after breaking the seal for about a month if you put it in the fridge as soon as possible.

Taking a sample through the rubber with a needle is fine. That won't break the vaccuum.

N. will remain lethal for about 2/3 years after expire date if you keep the bottle sealed in a cool, dark place.

 

[AcornUnderground]

Dr. PN from the PPH answered that question in a podcast once. I can't find it anymore (he removes podcasts sometimes) but he said N. remains lethal after breaking the seal for about a month if you put it in the fridge as soon as possible.

Taking a sample through the rubber with a needle is fine. That won't break the vaccuum.

N. will remain lethal for about 2/3 years after expire date if you keep the bottle sealed in a cool, dark place.

Great. I didn't put mine in the fridge and opened it a week ago. I do have two bottles and I'm a small person.....

 

[Mud.]

Great. I didn't put mine in the fridge and opened it a week ago. I do have two bottles and I'm a small person.....

I wish I had saved all these podcasts.

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Opinions vary if 6.3 ML is enough. Dr. PN once said that he had never heard of someone surviving one bottle.

I've spoken to counselors of Dutch euthanasia organizations and they recommend two bottles for people with high tolerance (because of the use of other medication) and people that are overweight.

You have to be a member of Exit International to ask Dr. PN questions but you could try contacting De Einder:

English – Stichting de Einder

www.deeinder.nl

I don't know if they offer advice to people outside of the Netherlands but it's worth a shot.

The only clip from Dr. PN I can find about opening bottles of N. is this one:


But I just watched it again, and it doesn't contain the information you're looking for unfortunately.

 

[calendulo]

Dr. PN from the PPH answered that question in a podcast once. I can't find it anymore (he removes podcasts sometimes) but he said N. remains lethal after breaking the seal for about a month if you put it in the fridge as soon as possible.

Taking a sample through the rubber with a needle is fine. That won't break the vaccuum.

N. will remain lethal for about 2/3 years after expire date if you keep the bottle sealed in a cool, dark place.

There is not any veterinary prospect which tells anything about fridge when had been opened.
Specifically, Euthanax or Euthasol says literally No freeze.
In Pisabental prospect tells ambient temperature.
Please, we are talking about of Human beings, not cows, cats or dogs.
I attached Pisabental prospect...............where say fridge or cold?.
I have six or seven prospect more....If it were necessary, could attached it.

 

[AcornUnderground]

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Opinions vary if 6.3 ML is enough. Dr. PN once said that he had never heard of someone surviving one bottle.

I've spoken to counselors of Dutch euthanasia organizations and they recommend two bottles for people with high tolerance (because of the use of other medication) and people that are overweight.

You have to be a member of Exit International to ask Dr. PN questions but you could try contacting De Einder:

English – Stichting de Einder

www.deeinder.nl

I don't know if they offer advice to people outside of the Netherlands but it's worth a shot.

The only clip from Dr. PN I can find about opening bottles of N. is this one:


But I just watched it again, and it doesn't contain the information you're looking for unfortunately.

Thank you for helping me!

There is not any veterinary prospect which tells anything about fridge when had been opened.
Specifically, Euthanax or Euthasol says literally No freeze.
In Pisabental prospect tells ambient temperature.
Please, we are talking about of Human beings, not cows, cats or dogs.
I attached Pisabental prospect...............where say fridge or cold?.
I have six or seven prospect more....If it were necessary, could attached it.

Thank you for all of your help!

 

[Mud.]

There is not any veterinary prospect which tells anything about fridge when had been opened.
Specifically, Euthanax or Euthasol says literally No freeze.
In Pisabental prospect tells ambient temperature.
Please, we are talking about of Human beings, not cows, cats or dogs.
I attached Pisabental prospect...............where say fridge or cold?.
I have six or seven prospect more....If it were necessary, could attached it.

Like I wrote, that's what Dr. PN said.
Personally, I'm not a vet, a Dr. or a couselor for an euthanasia organization.

 

[calendulo]

Great. I didn't put mine in the fridge and opened it a week ago. I do have two bottles and I'm a small person.....

I did know that you opened it a week ago.I thought that you had opened today or yesterday.
It is too much time opened, you should throw away it, could be dangerous.

Like I wrote, that's what Dr. PN said.
Personally, I'm not a vet, a Dr. or a couselor for an euthanasia organization.

Yes, I know it.

 

[AcornUnderground]

I did know that you opened it a week ago.I thought that you had opened today or yesterday.
It is too much time opened, you should throw away it, could be dangerous.

Yes, I know it.

I can't believe I ruined it. It's so chemical I assumed it was fine, just needed to be used within a month or two/ I thought I'd read that somewhere. Now what?!?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I can't believe I ruined it. It's so chemical I assumed it was fine, just needed to be used within a month or two/ I thought I'd read that somewhere. Now what?!?

Please do online research about this. You said you put it in a mason jar. I have a hard time believing it would significantly break down a week after being opened. I could be wrong, but I would research and not take the advice of random people on a forum.

 

[Mud.]

Please do online research about this. You said you put it in a mason jar. I have a hard time believing it would significantly break down a week after being opened. I could be wrong, but I would research and not take the advice of random people on a forum.

Exactly. My suggestion would also be to go past this forum.

If I were you, I would leave the N. in the state that it is now (no more rebottling) then write e-mails to De Einder, Dignitas and Pegasos (they all have websites) as soon as possible.

I personally would write something like…

Hello,

I'm not one of your clients but I find myself in a potentially perilous situation and I don't have anybody else to turn to.

I'm very ill and after much thought, I've decided to end my life in a dignified and peaceful manner. For this I have obtained N*mbutal. I did not plan to use it right away but to prepare myself for the taste, I removed the seal and opened the bottle a week ago to take a sample. I thought this would have no negative influence on the substance.

However, after doing this I read on the internet that the substance loses its potency very fast after breaking the seal completely and might even be dangerous.

I certainly do not ask from you to become involved in what is for me a very private matter, but I'm reaching out to you to ask you if I'm putting myself in danger.

Thank you in advance for any information you have to offer.
Kind regards,
…

 

[AcornUnderground]

Exactly. My suggestion would also be to go past this forum.

If I were you, I would leave the N. in the state that is now (no more rebottling) then write e-mails to De Einder, Dignitas and Pegasos (they all have websites) as soon as possible.

I personally would write something like…

Hello,

I'm not one of your clients but I find myself in a potentially perilous situation and I don't have anybody else to turn to.

I'm very ill and after much thought, I've decided to end my life in a dignified and peaceful manner. For this I have obtained N*mbutal. I did not plan to use it right away but to prepare myself for the taste, I removed the seal and opened the bottle a week ago to take a sample. I thought this would have no negative influence on the substance.

However, after doing this I read on the internet that the substance loses its potency very fast after breaking the seal completely and might even be dangerous.

I certainly do not ask from you to become involved in what is for me a very private matter, but I'm reaching out to you to ask you if I'm putting myself in danger.

Thank you in advance for any information you have to offer.
Kind regards,
…

Thank you...that's a good idea. Pegasos is an easy one for me - I went through the whole process with them they are such nice people. I wanted to get there for this. Thanks again.

 

[calendulo]

I can't believe I ruined it. It's so chemical I assumed it was fine, just needed to be used within a month or two/ I thought I'd read that somewhere. Now what?!?

I should not to do this, .................later surely I am going to regret....

Well ..........you seems a very good person and with all my affection I say you if you have two bottles, using one single will have good enough.
I can not to say you if that liquid is safe or not; Nobody could to ensure that, PN's wizard neither............but the one and only important thing is your safety. You have to keep in your mind, always.
You should not hurry things. You take a couple of days to thinking about what you are going to do or not to do.
The bottle is already opened, ok does not matter, it is done. Keep it in some dark and cool place, guess it stills working for two or three months or if you prefer put into fridge, then do it.If you are more confident about.

If you want some information, do not google or dumb things like that. Search a prospect of any veterinary liquid.....in english, there is a canadian brand, called euthasol, I think. On there you can read accurate information about.

Now, you relax and give you a breath. If there is a solution then there is not any problem.

 

[Ashleyrodriguez]

I am not sure what to do if I decide to use my N, which I have 200ml in 2 unmarked sealed dark brown glass bottles. I'm a 115 lb female. I was making plans for Pegasos, but travel problems due to coronavirus are making that a possible no-go, I imagine this will get worse before better for many months. I really don't want to drink 200ml. I only have 1 4mg Zofran pill.

Where did you get the N if you don't mind me asking?

 

[AcornUnderground]

Where did you get the N if you don't mind me asking?

Source A. From peaceful pill handbook

 

[enjolras]

I should not to do this, .................later surely I am going to regret....

It is very troublesome to reply for someone else, even if solicited, because it puts yourself in front of your own insecurities. You may be tempted to imagine a decision like a role play, but still pedal backwards to announce it out loud, given how serious the outcome is at play. It's too personal, which makes it a hard perilous exercice
It sucks to realise that despite owning the gold standard, there are still situations that can make you shake in your shoes. The full expertise gets closer just as it stays out of reach, like walking towards the horizon, discovering details but it's never-ending. Very much it's a darwinian education path followed. We just navigate between information we have at disposition ...that shouldn't be. We all deserve comfort

If you want some information, do not google or dumb things like that. Search a prospect of any veterinary liquid.....in english, there is a canadian brand, called euthasol, I think. On there you can read accurate information about.

When I did that, I often regret, bouncing back at me. Like, in the Dolethal instructions, it says to discard 3 months after sampling out once. Mine was done 2 years ago for testing and not repeated since then to build conviction against it

Pharmaceutical precautions

www.noahcompendium.co.uk

 

[Ashleyrodriguez]

Source A. From peaceful pill handbook

Who is source A? Sorry I've never read the book, just heard of it and what country are you from?

 

[AcornUnderground]

Who is source A? Sorry I've never read the book, just heard of it and what country are you from?

You have to research the page and you'll find information about getting N from A. I can't really provide the source. I'm in the US

 

[calendulo]

It is very troublesome to reply for someone else, even if solicited, because it puts yourself in front of your own insecurities. You may be tempted to imagine a decision like a role play, but still pedal backwards to announce it out loud, given how serious the outcome is at play. It's too personal, which makes it a hard perilous exercice
It sucks to realise that despite owning the gold standard, there are still situations that can make you shake in your shoes. The full expertise gets closer just as it stays out of reach, like walking towards the horizon, discovering details but it's never-ending. Very much it's a darwinian education path followed. We just navigate between information we have at disposition ...that shouldn't be. We all deserve comfort


When I did that, I often regret, bouncing back at me. Like, in the Dolethal instructions, it says to discard 3 months after sampling out once. Mine was done 2 years ago for testing and not repeated since then to build conviction against it

Pharmaceutical precautions

www.noahcompendium.co.uk

No, I am not agree with that. It is not troublesome, it is deeply coward, of course in my humble opinion.
What is really sad is be treated like an animal when oneself is a human being, sad is to compare a vet liquid with a medical prescription, which is not existing anymore, again imho that is cheat to people.

Maybe troublesome would be not to know what is a barbiturate, to say that a method is good but oneself would not use it (PN dixit).
It is important to have the lesson learnt.Run away of magicians or wizards, It is safer.
I will never believe that a depression is a cause to die, I know it, that idea is not popular here, but that is my opinion.
But thanks god, as I said I arrived here with the lesson learnt.

 

[enjolras]

The underlying argument I meant is the question, when to trust an authority ?
I can doubt an authority for certain if/when I can prove him/her wrong. Clear example : I buy N stocks and run my personal tests over various simulations, check that my results are different than the claims from the authority, I question the assessments by the evidence, the facts
Alternatively, if I happen to perform some positive verifications over a catalogue of claims, when I'm presented a new fact, the point is not so much that I'm keen to rely on confidence to move forward, but rather that I'm in no position to make a counter proposal anyway. If I were to doubt the info, I have no alternative to provide.
Then how can I transmit meaning around me ? This invites to being cautious because I can't add my own value.
Right, here goes today's mood. Good day ! lol

 

[yannyorlaurel]

After reading some horror stories about the taste of veterinary N, I decided to open one of the 20ml bottles I own (13 in total, 260 ml at 65 mg/ml) and drink 2ml. Is not as bad, just weird taste, nothing problematic. No nausea, no vomit. I believe it can be done without antiemetic, although I take olanzapine which is an antiemetic. It tastes like alcohol with almonds and is bitter, but I expected something much worse, regarding some posts in here, specially one that said that N was undrinkeable. @Fragile @Berlin76 @calendulo
Update: N hits much harder than a benzo. I like the low dose I took.

Curious what brand it was, if you're aware. I think different formulations have different fillers, but Pisa (brand) is what is most common for people on the forum to obtain. I've also determined that once I get mine I will be sure to never smell it (maybe paperclip my nose shut) during sampling or actual administration down the road. I've heard that somewhere between 75-95% of our sense of "taste" comes from smell, and I know one whiff of that chemical scent would deter me from ever drinking it.

 

[rt1989526]

Lol why the fuck does this person have 13 bottles of N

 

[Girobatol]

Curious what brand it was, if you're aware. I think different formulations have different fillers, but Pisa (brand) is what is most common for people on the forum to obtain. I've also determined that once I get mine I will be sure to never smell it (maybe paperclip my nose shut) during sampling or actual administration down the road. I've heard that somewhere between 75-95% of our sense of "taste" comes from smell, and I know one whiff of that chemical scent would deter me from ever drinking it.

Brand is Penthal, made in Colombia.

Lol why the fuck does this person have 13 bottles of N

13 very small bottles 20ml, so overall I have 260 ml.

 

[bov]

Is anyone on this thread familiar with Lethabarb?

 

[ceelo]

Who cares about taste? you're on the rolls royce of life ending and you're out in 2 mins? surely you can just ignore the damn taste and get some dark choc on the go dignitas style.

 

[Alessa]

Stop. It is better to count until three, after that...you take a breath.....Relax. Well, It is already done......be positive. Everything has a solution in/on this life.

To put in a mason jar was not a good idea. You should to look for an container that not was transparent.
Guess that original bottle was nontransparent. I would return it to original bottle and would put a cork, as tight as possible and then let it in a dark place and ambient temperature. No fridge.
As more hermetic was closed, will be better.

Hi, one question:
Why no fridge? I read a few times, that it was recommended to put it in the fridge, but not in the cool compartment.
You also wrote, that it will last arround 2 years... I hope longe, because Iam planning to do it in summer 2022. I received in autumn of 2019... :(

I did know that you opened it a week ago.I thought that you had opened today or yesterday.
It is too much time opened, you should throw away it, could be dangerous.

Yes, I know it.

What do you mean by "could be dangerous"? How can it be more dangerous when it is actually supposed to kill you? I stored it properly (I guess), but Iam still uneasy when I will use it in 18 months... Will it work how it is supposed to? I hope you'll answer... :(

 

[Aap]

Just ignore everything the poster wrote. Nothing was of quality. Seal it, put it in the fridge (not freezer) in a dark paper bag.

 

[Alessa]

Just ignore everything the poster wrote. Nothing was of quality. Seal it, put it in the fridge (not freezer) in a dark paper bag.

How do you figure? Ah hell... Even if you think you got "the holy grale" of CTB, there are so much things to worry about. You know, I see myself having a nightmarish fight full of pain and suffering until I go. God damnit...

 

[rabbithole]

Man how did you obtain 13 bottles of n? I wish I had the money to gamble with n.