Venting i hate women

[peacebenow]

Misogyny is not something I want to be dealing with on this forum.

 

[SergantWallbridge]

Well I mean there are quite a bunch of people who actually want to be incels. Also as far as I know misogyny is not classified as a mental illness. Would a lot of misogynists benefit from some sort of therapy? Absolutely yes, of course, but it's not comparable with depression and suicidal ideation. And in contrast to depression and suicidal ideation, misogyny does quite often lead to the actual physical harm of others. What you are implying is that we apparently are not able to help ourselves in any way at all and that we all just succumb to our urges and we can do nothing about it, which is simply not true

1.The fact that it's not comparable within an ethical framework (misoginists = bad, depressives = poor tortured souls) says nothing about whether it's comparable with respect to the psychological and neurological mechanism instantiating both phenomenas. If I swing a hand to throw a ball, and the other person swings their hand to hit their wife, those are ethically incomparable events, but they are easly comparable with respect to the mechanics of hand movement.
2. "You" is something that possessess an experiential aspect to its existence (you feel, you see, you marvel, you cry) but the substrate of your cognition is purely physical (I don't need to reach within the etheral plane and hurt your soul to diminish you mental capabilities; it's enough to bonk you hard on the head). Similarly, the experiencial, abstract concepts like "will", "desire" etc. have a neural substrate. Both whether you indeed can help yourself AND whether you even want to is a reflection of that substrate.

 

[NonEssential]

I can kinda understand (don't agree with it though) the negative feelings if it came from the frustration of not being able to get relationships but if even your sisters make you feel bitter then that really sucks.

 

[caotic_realm]

In a way, I relate to that, but differently—I mean, I wouldn't say I hate women; I think my hatred is more about "loathing certain human patterns."

I was bullied as a teenager; regarding girls, I faced rejection that bordered on both disgust and contempt—as if I were repulsive to them. I told a friend about it, and he said, "That's not good at all." I replied that it didn't matter—I had moved past it, and I never experienced anything like that again during my subsequent years of school.

The point is, I don't think you're a misogynist—and I'm not one either—but take, for example, the recent case of a teacher who committed suicide after a student falsely accused him of abuse. He explained that he had always been very kind to his students, and essentially, the girl tried to exploit that kindness to fabricate a claim that he had abused her. What was the reaction on social media? There were people—men included—who suggested the teacher probably *had* done it; consequently, feminist "collectives" and related pages—including an "authority figure" (woman)—remarked that it was "better that he killed himself." Consequently, I detest that segment of the "feminist collective" that claims men are inherently evil; conversely, I also believe it is not entirely true to view women's nature as manipulative and malicious—not all women are like that, and I will not generalize. Despite any rejections I have faced, despite never having had a girlfriend or sex, and despite having been scorned or insulted by women, I do not believe every woman in the world deserves my hatred simply because of a bias stemming from a few frustrated, stupid individuals (of either gender) who want to believe the opposite sex is evil.

It is ironic when people write to you here with a certain disdain or hatred; perhaps they, too, have been hated—possibly due to a misunderstanding. I believe your situation—though I don't mean to justify it—is just that: a misunderstanding. I don't think you are a misogynist; you have simply had very bad experiences with women, much like the woman who wrote here about suffering sexual abuse and trauma at the hands of certain men.

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[DeathSweetDeath]

I'm still waiting to hear about your mother, and about whoever else may have taken care of you when you were very little.

 

[Dot]

I dont try to intentionally browse or scroll through posts and threads online like that, it's just a common thing to stumble across. especially with that one woman who strangled her 3 kids to death being all over the news, it feels like every other post you see online is just clips or posts talking about tons and tons of women saying that she was innocent or that it was the husband's fault. It just makes me wish we would repeal the 19th amendment.

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[MrDarkness]

Oh boy, that's a title if I ever seen one

 

[neurotoxic]

Thank god most women don't hate all men after a few bad interactions. Every woman I know has had interactions with men that made them feel a lot worse than just "bitter" and even they don't hate all men. OP might just be a bitter person.

Also, why is OPs post even in suicide discussion?

1.The fact that it's not comparable within an ethical framework (misoginists = bad, depressives = poor tortured souls) says nothing about whether it's comparable with respect to the psychological and neurological mechanism instantiating both phenomenas. If I swing a hand to throw a ball, and the other person swings their hand to hit their wife, those are ethically incomparable events, but they are easly comparable with respect to the mechanics of hand movement.
2. "You" is something that possessess an experiential aspect to its existence (you feel, you see, you marvel, you cry) but the substrate of your cognition is purely physical (I don't need to reach within the etheral plane and hurt your soul to diminish you mental capabilities; it's enough to bonk you hard on the head). Similarly, the experiencial, abstract concepts like "will", "desire" etc. have a neural substrate. Both whether you indeed can help yourself AND whether you even want to is a reflection of that substrate.

Holy AI armchair psychologist, batman!

Edited to clarify everything before the quote was in reply to OP

 

[SergantWallbridge]

Thank god most women don't hate all men after a few bad interactions. Every woman I know has had interactions with men that made them feel a lot worse than just "bitter" and even they don't hate all men. OP might just be a bitter person.

Also, why is this in suicide discussion?

Holy AI armchair psychologist, batman!

If anything, the text above is a conceptual investigation common in philosophy.