Venting i hate women

[Leonard_Bangley39]

it's just as the title says. i hate women. it's hard to describe how exactly i feel, i just have a bitterness whenever i think of them. My sisters, classmates, coworkers, almost every interaction ive had left me feeling bitter and resentful towards them. I just hate them.

I never show it on my face or act out on it.

I don't want to call myself an incel, nor do i want to associate or mingle in those types of crowds, but i feel like most people who see me online would probably apply that label towards me.

I dont try to intentionally browse or scroll through posts and threads online like that, it's just a common thing to stumble across. especially with that one woman who strangled her 3 kids to death being all over the news, it feels like every other post you see online is just clips or posts talking about tons and tons of women saying that she was innocent or that it was the husband's fault. It just makes me wish we would repeal the 19th amendment.

And i know that not everything you see online is representative of the real world or everyone, but its really fucking hard for me to try and maintain that mindset when almost every real life interaction ive had just strengthens that ideal that women fucking suck.

it feels like i just dont fit anywhere in this world. like i was always just the weird lolcow kid that peers would make fun of or be mean towards.

The worst part is, i want nothing more than to connect with someone and have some kidn of relationship, but im honest to God not even sure if i am capable of connecting with anyone anymore. I just cant give a shit about anyone no matter what. when theyre telling me about their day, or their interests, or their experiences, things they like, things they dont like. I just cant give a shit anymore about anything other than myself.

 

[ctb_warrior]

it's just as the title says. i hate women. it's hard to describe how exactly i feel, i just have a bitterness whenever i think of them. My sisters, classmates, coworkers, almost every interaction ive had left me feeling bitter and resentful towards them. I just hate them.

I never show it on my face or act out on it.

I don't want to call myself an incel, nor do i want to associate or mingle in those types of crowds, but i feel like most people who see me online would probably apply that label towards me.

I dont try to intentionally browse or scroll through posts and threads online like that, it's just a common thing to stumble across. especially with that one woman who strangled her 3 kids to death being all over the news, it feels like every other post you see online is just clips or posts talking about tons and tons of women saying that she was innocent or that it was the husband's fault. It just makes me wish we would repeal the 19th amendment.

And i know that not everything you see online is representative of the real world or everyone, but its really fucking hard for me to try and maintain that mindset when almost every real life interaction ive had just strengthens that ideal that women fucking suck.

it feels like i just dont fit anywhere in this world. like i was always just the weird lolcow kid that peers would make fun of or be mean towards.

The worst part is, i want nothing more than to connect with someone and have some kidn of relationship, but im honest to God not even sure if i am capable of connecting with anyone anymore. I just cant give a shit about anyone no matter what. when theyre telling me about their day, or their interests, or their experiences, things they like, things they dont like. I just cant give a shit anymore about anything other than myself.

You are not alone. One of my close friend, he has all the women surrounding him in his life, his mother, his sister, his wife, his mother in law
All of them have made that poor chap's life a living hell.. he slit his wrist once due to the torture.
He's somehow fighting the situation now..
He's earning good money, he's feeling everyone have good food and luxury, still these women are harassing him emotionally and mentally

 

[discernment]

I think I can understand why you would feel bitter after having a lot of experiences with people that left you feeling rejected or hurt. When enough interactions go badly, it's pretty easy for your brain to start looking for a common denominator and turn that into "women are the problem"

The stuff you see online probably isn't helping either. Algorithms are incredibly good at putting the most inflammatory examples in front of you, because anger and outrage keep people engaged. Seeing thousands of comments defending one awful person doesn't necessarily mean that thousands of women genuinely believe what you're being shown, and it certainly isn't evidence of what women as a whole think. I am a woman, and to be very clear, I think what LC did is absolutely abhorrent and indefensible.

You don't have to suddenly start loving women or pretending that your experiences didn't happen, but, i'd be careful about letting resentment become your identity. You can definitely acknowledge that individual women have treated you badly without making every woman responsible for what those people did. Hope this doesn't read like i'm trying to convince you of anything, I just wanted to give my input

 

[lastappleonearth]

it's just as the title says. i hate women. it's hard to describe how exactly i feel, i just have a bitterness whenever i think of them. My sisters, classmates, coworkers, almost every interaction ive had left me feeling bitter and resentful towards them. I just hate them.

I never show it on my face or act out on it.

I don't want to call myself an incel, nor do i want to associate or mingle in those types of crowds, but i feel like most people who see me online would probably apply that label towards me.

I dont try to intentionally browse or scroll through posts and threads online like that, it's just a common thing to stumble across. especially with that one woman who strangled her 3 kids to death being all over the news, it feels like every other post you see online is just clips or posts talking about tons and tons of women saying that she was innocent or that it was the husband's fault. It just makes me wish we would repeal the 19th amendment.

And i know that not everything you see online is representative of the real world or everyone, but its really fucking hard for me to try and maintain that mindset when almost every real life interaction ive had just strengthens that ideal that women fucking suck.

it feels like i just dont fit anywhere in this world. like i was always just the weird lolcow kid that peers would make fun of or be mean towards.

The worst part is, i want nothing more than to connect with someone and have some kidn of relationship, but im honest to God not even sure if i am capable of connecting with anyone anymore. I just cant give a shit about anyone no matter what. when theyre telling me about their day, or their interests, or their experiences, things they like, things they dont like. I just cant give a shit anymore about anything other than myself.

Idk bro, I feel like sometimes you can generalise certain groups based on their behaviour, but not a whole gender. I'd suggest spending less time on social media, it doesn't portray reality and just affects you negatively. And ofc I can't speak for your irl interactions, as I wasn't there obviously, but if you go into interactions with your already very negative biases, then chances are that this torpedoes the interaction before it even began. I do think it's true that a lot of ppl in general suck, but that doesn't have anything to do with gender

 

[fleurdelune]

just curious -- what real-life interactions are you having with women that cement in your mind the idea that women as a group suck? if you don't mind me asking, ofc

i hope you find somewhere in which you feel you belong, as improbable as it may sound. i don't feel like i belong either, but the feeling is supposed to be nice :***)

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

All that and yet no mention of your mother. How does she factor into it?

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

 

[TheGuy458]

Isn't there like another site or something to dish out this garbage? This really isn't the place for it imo

 

[fleurdelune]

Isn't there like another site or something to dish out this garbage? This really isn't the place for it imo

i think the person who owns (or owned at one point) or created this site also owns or created another site specifically for incels, iirc. it's interesting how we're all united on here by being suicidal

 

[Red.one]

Hi! My case is not as harsh as yours. I'm afraid of man. Specially the ones who has any romantic/sexual intentions to me.
I was SAed when I was 14yo. My first and only relationship (with a man) lasted more than 7 years, and left me with a lot of traumas.
I'm afraid of man. Maybe it's not the same level as you, but still, I try hard to fight it. In going to therapy.
I think I'm about to start conversation with this one guy. He was always nice, and try to stay in touch. I ghosted him. Hope he's still up to meeting. I'm afraid but he was always green flags.

 

[starboy2k]

can't wait to see how this thread ages in a couple of days…….

 

[booplesnoot34]

If it makes you feel any better, even women hate women. Women bully each other viciously. The mean girls from high school never grow up and just bring that same crap into the workplace and their private lives. I'm a woman and would rather get raped again than deal with the torture I faced from a female boss. Nightmarish.

 

[Pluto]

 

[N@te]

it's just as the title says. i hate women. it's hard to describe how exactly i feel, i just have a bitterness whenever i think of them. My sisters, classmates, coworkers, almost every interaction ive had left me feeling bitter and resentful towards them. I just hate them.

I never show it on my face or act out on it.

I don't want to call myself an incel, nor do i want to associate or mingle in those types of crowds, but i feel like most people who see me online would probably apply that label towards me.

I dont try to intentionally browse or scroll through posts and threads online like that, it's just a common thing to stumble across. especially with that one woman who strangled her 3 kids to death being all over the news, it feels like every other post you see online is just clips or posts talking about tons and tons of women saying that she was innocent or that it was the husband's fault. It just makes me wish we would repeal the 19th amendment.

And i know that not everything you see online is representative of the real world or everyone, but its really fucking hard for me to try and maintain that mindset when almost every real life interaction ive had just strengthens that ideal that women fucking suck.

it feels like i just dont fit anywhere in this world. like i was always just the weird lolcow kid that peers would make fun of or be mean towards.

The worst part is, i want nothing more than to connect with someone and have some kidn of relationship, but im honest to God not even sure if i am capable of connecting with anyone anymore. I just cant give a shit about anyone no matter what. when theyre telling me about their day, or their interests, or their experiences, things they like, things they dont like. I just cant give a shit anymore about anything other than myself.

same, but I would describe myself as an incel. Though I don't really feel much resentment anymore. I've become very apathetic about most things. It's kinda nice.

 

[Leonard_Bangley39]

im not trying to justify anything, i know it's bad. i don't want to feel this way, i just do. hate me if you will, i just needed to get it out.

 

[Endstati0n]

Why is this in the suicide Discussion thread lol

 

[LastNite]

I've known u for a while on here but never saw posts like this from u. Kinda odd, take a break off social media. You've been so brainwashed that it's starting to rot your brain.

Women dont suck, you just saw videos of men hating on women. You watched it. The algorithm collected data that you watched this vid for this long and started to feed you more hatred.

You can turn anyone into a hateful bigot by feeding them select few incidents of said persons committing said crime. Also, irl bad interactions with women doesn't represent the majority of women. That's just incredibly stupid to say. Delete all social media apps and stop feeding yourself bigotry.

i think the person who owns (or owned at one point) or created this site also owns or created another site specifically for incels, iirc. it's interesting how we're all united on here by being suicidal

Where did u get that from?

 

[Forveleth]

... i know it's bad. i don't want to feel this way, i just do.

This sentence implies that you are powerless to change or adjust or take responsibility for how you feel, which is absolutely not true. Feelings are not something like skin color or biological sex. You are 100% capable of changing them if you put effort into it.

Clarification: In regards to hating women, not being depressed or suicidal.

 

[bl33ding_heart]

You must have gone through so much to end up with a mindset like this. I'm so sorry, and it's not your fault at all how you were treated so unfairly. You are going through a lot, and I really hope for you to find some mental clarity and peace.

 

[SergantWallbridge]

Exactly. Another example: suicidality or more broadly depression. Like, get ahold of yourself and smile upon the world and it shall smile upon you. You are responsible for your feelings and it bothers others to see you being such a downer.

This sentence implies that you are powerless to change or adjust or take responsibility for how you feel, which is absolutely not true. Feelings are not something like skin color or biological sex. You are 100% capable of changing them if you put effort into it.

 

[lastappleonearth]

same, but I would describe myself as an incel. Though I don't really feel much resentment anymore. I've become very apathetic about most things. It's kinda nice.

Pls don't call yourself an incel, it's such a destructive mindset to have and it's gonna make everything so much worse

Exactly. Another example: suicidality or more broadly depression. Like, get ahold of yourself and smile upon the world and it shall smile upon you. You are responsible for your feelings and it bothers others to see you being such a downer.

I mean, I think it's not that simple in regards to depression and suicidality, but when it comes to hatred, then sure, you can definitely work on that and change it. Even just spending less time on social media will help

 

[SergantWallbridge]

Pls don't call yourself an incel, it's such a destructive mindset to have and it's gonna make everything so much worse

I mean, I think it's not that simple in regards to depression and suicidality, but when it comes to hatred, then sure, you can definitely work on that and change it. Even just spending less time on social media will help

Is there some robust theory behind your claim, apart form the convienient fact that the specific issues you yourself deal with are convieniently unadressable (whereas the issues of others that bother you apparently not)?

 

[EternallyCold]

Hi! My case is not as harsh as yours. I'm afraid of man. Specially the ones who has any romantic/sexual intentions to me.
I was SAed when I was 14yo. My first and only relationship (with a man) lasted more than 7 years, and left me with a lot of traumas.
I'm afraid of man. Maybe it's not the same level as you, but still, I try hard to fight it. In going to therapy.
I think I'm about to start conversation with this one guy. He was always nice, and try to stay in touch. I ghosted him. Hope he's still up to meeting. I'm afraid but he was always green flags.

I find it funny how your reason for hating the opposite gender is due to trauma such as sexual assault and abuse, which a lot of women go through and is why some women end up hating or being scared of men, and meanwhile this guy's reason for hating women is because he doesn't know how to speak to them. Don't downplay your situation. It's definitely harsher and I hope you're better now

 

[Forveleth]

Exactly. Another example: suicidality or more broadly depression. Like, get ahold of yourself and smile upon the world and it shall smile upon you. You are responsible for your feelings and it bothers others to see you being such a downer.

I was talking about hating women. This has absolutely nothing to do with suicidality, and I absolutely do not agree with your take. "Being a downer" is very different than choosing to hate half of the human race.

 

[SergantWallbridge]

I was talking about hating women. This has absolutely nothing to do with suicidality, and I absolutely do not agree with your take. "Being a downer" is very different than choosing to hate half of the human race.

No. I read your previous comment: you were talking about feelings and human ability to change them, and the responsibility to do so when those feelings are unacceptable.

I agree that chosing to infect the people around you with your misery has some differencess from hating women. There are also however some similarities: in both instances it is immature and irresponsible to continue producing excuses and undermine your agency instead of deciding to change your mind for the better.

 

[Nikkra]

internet is definitely inflammatory and amplifies stuff like that but my negative thoughts about women definitely comes from real life experiences, sisters constantly screaming at eachother my whole childhood walking on eggshells constantly, girlfriend cheating around my froend group leaving me friendless, all my mums friends getting divorced for stupid reasons, women somehow seeing it as a badge of honor to get divorced and tear their family apart, all the shit tv shows that's just drama and scandal that women seem to love. and its not just what women have done to me that makes me upset, it's what i see others going through that upsets me most.

That said i always try to think of the good women ive met in my life when i start feeling negative, there have been women who've really helped me out and were sensitive enough to see things others couldnt (not in a romantic way either) and that balances things out a bit for me. At the end of the day if you compare men and women we're both as bad as each other i think but since we're men we feel the sting of femininity more

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

How about this one though, i think she's pretty neat

 

[lastappleonearth]

Is there some robust theory behind your claim, apart form the convienient fact that the specific issues you yourself deal with are convieniently unadressable (whereas the issues of others that bother you apparently not)?

No, any issues are addressable, but sometimes, actually in many cases, you are no longer able to do it on your own and require professional help. I realise that I can't do it alone anymore and therefore am seeking out professional help. And some people, quite a lot unfortunately still loose their lives to their struggles or do you think that suicide is just a big conspiracy theory and it doesn't actually happen? They can't simply tell themselves to feel better, but if you want to be a dick abt it, then do that I guess

 

[SergantWallbridge]

No, any issues are addressable, but sometimes, actually in many cases, you are no longer able to do it on your own and require professional help. I realise that I can't do it alone anymore and therefore am seeking out professional help. And some people, quite a lot unfortunately still loose their lives to their struggles or do you think that suicide is just a big conspiracy theory and it doesn't actually happen? They can't simply tell themselves to feel better, but if you want to be a dick abt it, then do that I guess

I don't see how your comment adresses the central issue I raised: why should we believe the "mental mechanics" of misoginy are any different that those of depresion i.e at some the individual can no longer help themselves? (In case that's not clear: my original comment was a deliberate mockery-by-analogy of the perspective presented by some other user that "helpfully" suggested getting a grip. There is no free will as we intuitivelly understand the concept, whether someone can help themselves is not a question of grit but neurotransmitters)

 

[lastappleonearth]

I don't see how your comment adresses the central issue I raised: why should we believe the "mental mechanics" of misoginy are any different that those of depresion i.e at some the individual can no longer help themselves? (In case that's not clear: my original comment was a deliberate mockery-by-analogy of the perspective presented by some other user that "helpfully" suggested getting a grip. There is no free will as we intuitivelly understand the concept, whether someone can help themselves is not a question of grit but neurotransmitters)

Well I mean there are quite a bunch of people who actually want to be incels. Also as far as I know misogyny is not classified as a mental illness. Would a lot of misogynists benefit from some sort of therapy? Absolutely yes, of course, but it's not comparable with depression and suicidal ideation. And in contrast to depression and suicidal ideation, misogyny does quite often lead to the actual physical harm of others. What you are implying is that we apparently are not able to help ourselves in any way at all and that we all just succumb to our urges and we can do nothing about it, which is simply not true