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Darkover

Darkover

Illuminated
Jul 29, 2021
3,740
The world is too evil for me The only future I see where I am ok is the one where I am dead. There is too much bad. Too much hate greed and selfishness.

there are people out there who are suffering. homeless people are starving, families are being bombed in warzones, and children and babies are being sex trafficked. why would I want to continue living here when this is what I'm surrounded by?

We have a finite lifespan that is full of suffering. If you don't exist, you don't suffer.

life is evil simply because to live means to have to kill something so you don't starve to death.
 
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Dayrain

Specialist
Feb 3, 2023
310
There is no logic in almost all pro-life advices. When they say enjoy the "small" things, whatever tf that means, they don't even realize that what they said is a confession that about 99% of all things are not enjoyable, because why would I have to resort to them if it was otherwise.
 
thewalkingdread

thewalkingdread

Life is a pointless, undeserved, unnecessary pain.
Oct 30, 2023
406
There's a limit to what amount of senseless suffering one experiences, be it to himself or others...

The solution is plain and simple: to keep surviving one needs to resort to some or other form of escapism... I.e. "hopium drugs" like work, family, consumerism, politics, religion, actual drugs, art, etc... Everything and anything can be used as a means to distract oneself from the crude, harsh, reality that life sucks big time — it doesn't really matter if one has it as good as it can be... The existential menace is always there, lurking, waiting for the right time to attack.

The real problem is when one develops a high tolerance to "hopium" and can't get high anymore... And here we are.

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thewalkingdread

thewalkingdread

Life is a pointless, undeserved, unnecessary pain.
Oct 30, 2023
406
Did you guys know that the etymology of the word 'family' comes from Latin word 'famulus'?! That means servant/slave in Latin.

Having kids in order to form "families", once upon a time in the Roman empire, literally meant having a handful of personal servants.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
7,585
Yeah true. I think the only way you can get through unscathed is to either stick your head in the sand or to kind of compartmentalise. How can any of us truly get on with the shit we have to deal with and more- be happy with it- if we fully acknowledged what awful things are going on in the world and even worse- that we are a part of it?

Be honest- when you sit down for your meal- do you really want to think too much about how that animal lived and died? While you're scrolling through your emails, do you want to think of the child that mined the cobalt in dangerous mines to make it? No- of course not! We'd all be riddled with guilt if we considered what we are a part of. It's like we almost have to become sociopaths to live in this world!
 
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that's just me
Sep 13, 2023
7,364
Did you guys know that the etymology of the word 'family' comes from Latin word 'famulus'?! That means servant/slave in Latin.

Having kids in order to form "families", once upon a time in the Roman empire, literally meant having a handful of personal servants.
I think that you're onto something here. A lot of people in this day and age have kids as a personal retirement plan, and expect that their kids will provide for them in old age.

By the way, is "familiar" related to this? Like an animal servant/companion.
 
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Rational man

Rational man

Enlightened
Oct 19, 2021
1,374
The world is too evil for me The only future I see where I am ok is the one where I am dead. There is too much bad. Too much hate greed and selfishness.

there are people out there who are suffering. homeless people are starving, families are being bombed in warzones, and children and babies are being sex trafficked. why would I want to continue living here when this is what I'm surrounded by?

We have a finite lifespan that is full of suffering. If you don't exist, you don't suffer.

life is evil simply because to live means to have to kill something so you don't starve to death.
I think many people feel the same. I do too and its not down to the fact that i have incurable illness. I realised around the time of the pandamic that our world had taken a very dark turn towards a destructive path. Maybe events were leading up to it. But the pandemic brought out some shocking behaviour in many people. Our leaders, no doubt, drink from the same glass.
 
thewalkingdread

thewalkingdread

Life is a pointless, undeserved, unnecessary pain.
Oct 30, 2023
406
By the way, is "familiar" related to this? Like an animal servant/companion.
I guess so... I guess by extension you could say that familiar people are the ones you can rely on somehow...
 
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sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that's just me
Sep 13, 2023
7,364
Yea, I often think we are dragged down.

What do you mean?
A "familiar" is a witch or wizard's animal companion. I thought that that word sounded similar to "family".
 
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Dayrain

Specialist
Feb 3, 2023
310
A "familiar" is a witch or wizard's animal companion. I thought that that word sounded similar to "family".
Didn't knew that. All I know is the "familia" in ancient Latin Rome meant a "house community". So the above explanation regarding"famulus" and "slave" makes sense, because slaves were a normal part of the house community back then just as the usual members.

Edit: @thewalkingdread I'm not sure which word came first. It's possible the word "famulus" originated later because they were part of the family as I've learned. But there is also the word "servus" for slave and it is known that child family members had to do slave tasks too. A "servus", as I understand it, usually was a slave who was not born into the family. I guess it all depended on how wealthy the family was as well. I never thought about it that extensively. But I'm not sure if a child, who had to do slave tasks, automatically was or was called a "famulus".
 
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saltedslug

Member
Aug 1, 2023
5
The more I understand about the world the more difficult it is for me to live in it. All you can really hope for is a purpose to the suffering at the end of it all.