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Random question here but I am desperately looking for some answers:

Would I be more successful hanging myself if I first went to partially suspend my carotid arteries and then when I feel like fainting away I kick the platform I was standing on aside and this way proceed to full suspension?

What I'm trying to explain is that I don't want to go for full suspension right away because there might be a chance that it will not block my carotid arteries right after I drop from a chair which might bring me to agonizing experience before I pass out. I attempted not so long ago and this is what I am trying to aim for - to pass out before all the unpleasant stuff happens. I was playing around with a noose around my neck for a while now so I kind of learned how to block my carotid arteries and pass out within seconds. I don't know how successful this is but I think it's a lot better than going straight to full suspension and then have unexpected not so joyful couple of seconds before passing out. But oh well everyone is different.
When my last attempt happened which was a couple of weeks back, I had a noose around my neck and sort of was doing what I just explained. But I kept them carotid arteries blocked for a little bit too long and I lost control over my body and almost completely slipped off a chair I was standing on. I was so close.. so close to dying that my brain started to create these weird visions and sounds. I could definitely feel how peaceful it would have been if I wasn't trying get back on that chair but instead I would have let it happen. It was so calm and inviting and I am still thinking about it everyday and I can't wait to have another attempt but this time I want it to be successful.
hi can you explain/clarify how you "kind of learned how to block your carotid arteries"? is it just a matter of pressure? or is there some positioning of the rope you had to get right?? also ive heard people using a cloth in between the rope and neck to not only help with comfort but also place extra pressure in a peticular area on neck.. thank you for theinfo in advance
Thanks again. Yes even hanging can be tricky though it seems to be the most common method if one cannot access guns or drugs / chemicals. If you try again, (hang) what will be materials do you intend on using?
please realize that if you use guns you will leave an awful mess for whoever finds you, this is because the explosive gasses that leave the gun before the bullet ever does can blow off parts of your head.. very grusome, if you do use a firearm try to hold it so the barrel is not right up against your skin so it will allow the expanding gasses to dissipate and just the bullet will go in making a small hole... of course hunting rounds or expanding hollow points may deform upon entry making a large exit wound (like JFK assasination) and blow chunks out the back... however fired at point blank range the bullet will be going at maximum velocity so it may not have much time to expand and make this happen... just fyi
I have seen all the videos I need to see, thank you. Enough, I think, to confirm that full suspension is the method of choice. Full suspension is undramatic. It nixes any concerns about pain, thrashing of body, etc. Convulsions are minimal and momentary. Unlike partial suspension, there is no turning back—-you are Dead, dead, deader.
i thaught people do partial suspension to avoid pain, meaning that the windpipe is not crushed because there is not enough force, only the jugular and coratid arteries are pressed, cutting of bloodflow to pass out quick.. full suspension may be more reliable but chocking to death is more painful that simply passing out due to lack of bloodflow to thehead.. just the impressions i was under.. fyi
 
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templeofthemorningstar
Feb 25, 2020
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Can anyone tell me if using a necktie is an effective way of partially hanging?
 
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Apr 4, 2020
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Thank you so much for all this information.
 
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Never Free

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Feb 6, 2019
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Word bud. I threw this together in like 15 mins. The current thread, I've read the entire thing...and if you do that...you will still be wondering "hmmm is this for me..." I think some blunt facts and wording is required to drive home the seriousness of this method.


I agree. There is so much information spread out between different posts and comments. It's almost more difficult when you look into your method because there is so much conflicting information, or lack of it. I believe these resources should be blunt and to the fact. If it's agreed upon, even lock it. Don't let people who fail to follow the tested information to cause doubt in other people. There is lots of talks about how hard it is to hang yourself in the official thread. I'm sorry, but it's not hard. I'll be the first to admit I'm a pussy for not doing it already, but at least I'm realistic about the method. If you want to hang yourself, you shouldn't have to even research anything, you'll just do it. That's just how it is, and I'll admit I'm too much of a coward to follow my own advice...but it IS facts...


Don't, It's not the fools ways out like I said...it's not the easiest method is what I'm trying to say...honestly if you choose hanging, I'm going to think you're a badass. You could of had a easier way out, but you swallowed your pride and pulled the trigger on the method. I honestly have nothing bud respect for people who hung...that takes amazing courage...(it could of been easier on them) BUT GODDAMN WHAT A BADASS
I've tried this multiple times. I'm shit at it. Don't know how to break my neck, or even pass out. Just end up choking and instinctively grabbing on to the rope, or what it's tied to. Even made a vice once for my hands. It worked somehow, though I broke the hook attached to the door I was hanging from. Slowly hanging is just unbearable. I just thrashed till part of it broke. Then was on my tip toes. Managed to get my arms loose and pull myself out.
 
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Pan

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Oct 24, 2019
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SI is a powerful force; the uh, NEED to live supersedes all else. Conquering SI is the challenge. Proving, I suppose, that instinct overrides intelligence.
 
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Walilamdzi

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Mar 21, 2019
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I've tried this multiple times. I'm shit at it. Don't know how to break my neck, or even pass out. Just end up choking and instinctively grabbing on to the rope, or what it's tied to. Even made a vice once for my hands. It worked somehow, though I broke the hook attached to the door I was hanging from. Slowly hanging is just unbearable. I just thrashed till part of it broke. Then was on my tip toes. Managed to get my arms loose and pull myself out.
Agree.
 
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Valsalva

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Feb 25, 2020
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You do NOT need to break your neck (vertebral column). The task is to block the carotids asap. This happens, when you pretighten the noose as much possible and then let it go. Then the blackout comes in 10 to 20 sec.
 
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Walilamdzi

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You do NOT need to break your neck (vertebral column). The task is to block the carotids asap. This happens, when you pretighten the noose as much possible and then let it go. Then the blackout comes in 10 to 20 sec.
I keep trying to find them with my hands but it doesn't really work.
 
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Valsalva

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Feb 25, 2020
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There is a link in the wiki. Aint difficult to find the CA. But...what is it good for?
You can make yourself pass out by pressing them. What is it good for?
What is your goal anyway?
 
wineblues

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Dec 28, 2019
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What do you think about opiates premedication? Opeates supress breath center in the brain so there would be less panic before death. And less pain for sure.
 
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uvx

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May 5, 2020
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Does anyone know if a doorknob would be a suitable anchor point for partial suspension? It's the only anchor point I have available to me right now and, although it holds up when I apply pressure, I'm not sure if it would be able to support my full body weight.
Also, how should I position myself? Sitting down or kneeling?
 
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Parsifal64

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May 16, 2020
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I'm making this thread because the current thread that this forum links to regarding hanging, is pretty lacking of actual information. If it has any, it's buried beneath questions and confusion. There should be a thread here, where you read the main body post, and you are ready to go. I'm going to try and make that thousand page long thread into one post, you can read right now, and not have to sift through thousands of comments to find an answer.

Let's approach this the right way. Hanging is a very common method, yet it also seems to be the most debated when it comes to logistics...why? The variables.

Hanging method #1: partial suspension : http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspension

Hanging method #2: full suspension: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

How to tie a proper noose:

Valuable information:
  1. In general, there are two ways of performing suicide by hanging: suspension hanging (the suspension of the body at the neck) and drop hanging (a calculated drop designed to break the neck). Manual strangulation and suffocation may also be considered together with hanging.[26]

2. To perform a suspension hanging, a rope or other ligature is tied into a noose which goes around the neck, a knot (often a running knot, which tightens easily) is formed, and the other end of the rope is tied to a ligature point; the body is then suspended, which tightens the ligature around the neck.

Regardless of the material used to form the noose, suspension hanging will kill the person in three ways: compression of the carotid arteries, the jugular veins, or the airway.[9][27]About 11 lb (5 kg) of pressure is required to compress the carotid artery; 4.4 lb (2 kg) for the jugular veins;[9] and at least 15 kg (33 lb) for the airway.[15] The amount of time it takes to lose consciousness and die is difficult to predict accurately and depends on several factors. Some believe unconsciousness occurs in five seconds, though Alan Gunn writes that it generally takes longer. It took a man who filmed his hanging 13 seconds to become unconscious, 1 minute and 38 seconds to lose muscle tone, and 4 minutes and 10 seconds for muscle movement to cease.[28][29] Full suspension is not required; most hanging suicides are done by partial suspension, according to Wyatt et al.[30] Geo Stone, author of Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, suggests that death by obstruction of the airway is more painful than by the other ways.[26]

The aim of drop hanging, which is also frequently used in executions, is to break the neck. Participants fall vertically with a rope attached to their neck, which when taut applies a force sufficient to break the spinal cord, causing death.[26][31] The length of the drop, usually between 1.56 and 2.75 metres long, is calculated such that it is long enough to allow a less painful death, but short enough to avoid a decapitation.[32] This form of suicide is much rarer than suspension hanging[15] and is likely to be less painful.[33]

When I comes down to it, there are many ways you can choke yourself to death. If you cannot find peace in any of the information listed above, or any choking method already detailed here (like the night night method) then this method is simply not for you. It should be known already this is not a quick and painless death. You will experience agony, if only for a few seconds. If you think you can handle under 1 min of pain, hanging might be the best option for you. It's tried and tested true. It's all about how bad you want it.

There is a video I linked on how to tie a noose. If you jump off a solid object with that around your neck, you will be out in under 1 min and die if undisturbed. All these questions about rope quality and structural integrity of where you choose to tie to...don't kid yourself...it's up to you to find that out. If you are so desperate to find out the pounds per square inch a hotel closet bar can hold....I doubt your seriousness. Don't get me wrong, I've failed attempts too...but I can also be real about our situation...killing yourself is not hard...there are 1000000 ways to die...at the end of the day, it's how about how bad you want it.

Robin Williams probably didn't spend months of research on belt type statistics. He wanted to die, wrapped a belt around his neck, and did it. If you are not ready to face some uncomfortableness before your death, this method is not for you, plain and simple.

I don't want a painful death. I think hanging is the fools way out if I'm honest, because there are so many other less painful methods...but in the same breath, once you commit, that's it. There is no failing when you have a noose around your neck with a solid object.

Don't ask people about PSI. Don't ask people what rope to buy. Don't ask people what tree to tie too. These are all decisions you should be making yourself. The only thing you need to learn, is how to tie the rope, and what to tie it to. Once you know this, the ball is in YOUR court.

Edit: if you want this thread to gain traction, leave a comment and emoji. If you don't, this will get buried and the other thread will take back over, just saying.

Can you guess how Robin Williams might have overcome his body just saying no? Wanting to die doesn't seem to suffice.
Does anyone know if a doorknob would be a suitable anchor point for partial suspension? It's the only anchor point I have available to me right now and, although it holds up when I apply pressure, I'm not sure if it would be able to support my full body weight.
Also, how should I position myself? Sitting down or kneeling?
How do you intend to override your body's wish to live.
 
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Harleyyy

Student
May 15, 2020
150
I'm making this thread because the current thread that this forum links to regarding hanging, is pretty lacking of actual information. If it has any, it's buried beneath questions and confusion. There should be a thread here, where you read the main body post, and you are ready to go. I'm going to try and make that thousand page long thread into one post, you can read right now, and not have to sift through thousands of comments to find an answer.

Let's approach this the right way. Hanging is a very common method, yet it also seems to be the most debated when it comes to logistics...why? The variables.

Hanging method #1: partial suspension : http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspension

Hanging method #2: full suspension: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

How to tie a proper noose:

Valuable information:
  1. In general, there are two ways of performing suicide by hanging: suspension hanging (the suspension of the body at the neck) and drop hanging (a calculated drop designed to break the neck). Manual strangulation and suffocation may also be considered together with hanging.[26]

2. To perform a suspension hanging, a rope or other ligature is tied into a noose which goes around the neck, a knot (often a running knot, which tightens easily) is formed, and the other end of the rope is tied to a ligature point; the body is then suspended, which tightens the ligature around the neck.

Regardless of the material used to form the noose, suspension hanging will kill the person in three ways: compression of the carotid arteries, the jugular veins, or the airway.[9][27]About 11 lb (5 kg) of pressure is required to compress the carotid artery; 4.4 lb (2 kg) for the jugular veins;[9] and at least 15 kg (33 lb) for the airway.[15] The amount of time it takes to lose consciousness and die is difficult to predict accurately and depends on several factors. Some believe unconsciousness occurs in five seconds, though Alan Gunn writes that it generally takes longer. It took a man who filmed his hanging 13 seconds to become unconscious, 1 minute and 38 seconds to lose muscle tone, and 4 minutes and 10 seconds for muscle movement to cease.[28][29] Full suspension is not required; most hanging suicides are done by partial suspension, according to Wyatt et al.[30] Geo Stone, author of Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, suggests that death by obstruction of the airway is more painful than by the other ways.[26]

The aim of drop hanging, which is also frequently used in executions, is to break the neck. Participants fall vertically with a rope attached to their neck, which when taut applies a force sufficient to break the spinal cord, causing death.[26][31] The length of the drop, usually between 1.56 and 2.75 metres long, is calculated such that it is long enough to allow a less painful death, but short enough to avoid a decapitation.[32] This form of suicide is much rarer than suspension hanging[15] and is likely to be less painful.[33]

When I comes down to it, there are many ways you can choke yourself to death. If you cannot find peace in any of the information listed above, or any choking method already detailed here (like the night night method) then this method is simply not for you. It should be known already this is not a quick and painless death. You will experience agony, if only for a few seconds. If you think you can handle under 1 min of pain, hanging might be the best option for you. It's tried and tested true. It's all about how bad you want it.

There is a video I linked on how to tie a noose. If you jump off a solid object with that around your neck, you will be out in under 1 min and die if undisturbed. All these questions about rope quality and structural integrity of where you choose to tie to...don't kid yourself...it's up to you to find that out. If you are so desperate to find out the pounds per square inch a hotel closet bar can hold....I doubt your seriousness. Don't get me wrong, I've failed attempts too...but I can also be real about our situation...killing yourself is not hard...there are 1000000 ways to die...at the end of the day, it's how about how bad you want it.

Robin Williams probably didn't spend months of research on belt type statistics. He wanted to die, wrapped a belt around his neck, and did it. If you are not ready to face some uncomfortableness before your death, this method is not for you, plain and simple.

I don't want a painful death. I think hanging is the fools way out if I'm honest, because there are so many other less painful methods...but in the same breath, once you commit, that's it. There is no failing when you have a noose around your neck with a solid object.

Don't ask people about PSI. Don't ask people what rope to buy. Don't ask people what tree to tie too. These are all decisions you should be making yourself. The only thing you need to learn, is how to tie the rope, and what to tie it to. Once you know this, the ball is in YOUR court.

Edit: if you want this thread to gain traction, leave a comment and emoji. If you don't, this will get buried and the other thread will take back over, just saying.

can i tie the noose to a ceiling fan or some other sturdy place around the house?
 
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Is life worth living?
Dec 5, 2020
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Can anyone tell what happens if the ligature used in hanging is stretchable?

More specifically Is a climbing cow's tail 8.0 mm kernamantle nylon rope sling reliable enough for a successful suicidal hanging if full suspension is achieved?
 
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Is it possible to avoid constricting your jugulars and airways with full suspension? I can't even avoid this with partial. It makes me feel my head is going to explode.
 
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Is life worth living?
Dec 5, 2020
66
Is it possible to avoid constricting your jugulars and airways with full suspension? I can't even avoid this with partial. It makes me feel my head is going to explode.
No I don't think that it is possible. You can make the hanging quick by ensuring the knot is placed correctly and the anchor point and the ligature are as reliable as possible.
 
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Oct 7, 2020
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a good and concise post my only feedback is -that i am not sure it was necessary to post a video for a knot type that is only really used/ needed for judical type long drop hangings, where as for short-drop and partial a very simple slip knot will suffice. So that knot vid might throw some people off and trigger fretful knot replies etc. that is all. all good otherwise. well edited info.
What's a simple slipknot that will work?
 
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MAIO

Elementalist
Apr 8, 2018
841
Word bud. I threw this together in like 15 mins. The current thread, I've read the entire thing...and if you do that...you will still be wondering "hmmm is this for me..." I think some blunt facts and wording is required to drive home the seriousness of this method.


I agree. There is so much information spread out between different posts and comments. It's almost more difficult when you look into your method because there is so much conflicting information, or lack of it. I believe these resources should be blunt and to the fact. If it's agreed upon, even lock it. Don't let people who fail to follow the tested information to cause doubt in other people. There is lots of talks about how hard it is to hang yourself in the official thread. I'm sorry, but it's not hard. I'll be the first to admit I'm a pussy for not doing it already, but at least I'm realistic about the method. If you want to hang yourself, you shouldn't have to even research anything, you'll just do it. That's just how it is, and I'll admit I'm too much of a coward to follow my own advice...but it IS facts...


Don't, It's not the fools ways out like I said...it's not the easiest method is what I'm trying to say...honestly if you choose hanging, I'm going to think you're a badass. You could of had a easier way out, but you swallowed your pride and pulled the trigger on the method. I honestly have nothing bud respect for people who hung...that takes amazing courage...(it could of been easier on them) BUT GODDAMN WHAT A BADASS
I disagree. I hung myself and my gymnastic rope rated as 2000lb snapped. Did I get extremely unlucky? Sure. However if I would of put more research I. I would of used a backup and died. As a full atheist it didn't give me any delusions about a purpose etc keeping me here. However, you and I know full well that for the majority of the population someone unlikely happening happening to you, will bring about magical thinking that impact your life greatly.
 
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Initiated

Is life worth living?
Dec 5, 2020
66
I disagree. I hung myself and my gymnastic rope rated as 2000lb snapped. Did I get extremely unlucky? Sure. However if I would of put more research I. I would of used a backup and died. As a full atheist it didn't give me any delusions about a purpose etc keeping me here. However, you and I know full well that for the majority of the population someone unlikely happening happening to you, will bring about magical thinking that impact your life greatly.
What? The rope rated to break at 2000 lbs snapped? Your weight would probably be under 200 lbs. I fail to understand how did it snap? What will you do now?
Thanks. The knot goes behind the neck according to my readings. Seems like it'll be many seconds of suffering if it's anything like what I've practised.
Yes. The knot should be placed behind your neck. And the level of noose around the neck should be between the Adam's apple and the base of the neck. Read suicide wiki written on this website. It is very detailed. And I recently read that someone used a rope rated to break at 2000 lbs but the rope broke. So if you are going for full suspension, use a rope of breaking strength atleast 4000 lbs. And about 10 mm thick.
 
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MAIO

Elementalist
Apr 8, 2018
841
What? The rope rated to break at 2000 lbs snapped? Your weight would probably be under 200 lbs. I fail to understand how did it snap? What will you do now?

Yes. The knot should be placed behind your neck. And the level of noose around the neck should be between the Adam's apple and the base of the neck. Read suicide wiki written on this website. It is very detailed. And I recently read that someone used a rope rated to break at 2000 lbs but the rope broke. So if you are going for full suspension, use a rope of breaking strength atleast 4000 lbs. And about 10 mm thick.
The strap must of been defective. It was highly unlikely/unfortunate. Attempt again and succeed/test the strap first which I have already worked out on with an additional plenty of weight. It has been over a year. Fell in love and moved in with an underwear model, made some apps/websites/real estate deals/lots of money. Traveled to some spots in Europe. It was a fun year but now I am making my final preparations and I know It's okay to die/wont fail as I just don't want to go through the struggle anymore.
What? The rope rated to break at 2000 lbs snapped? Your weight would probably be under 200 lbs. I fail to understand how did it snap? What will you do now?

Yes. The knot should be placed behind your neck. And the level of noose around the neck should be between the Adam's apple and the base of the neck. Read suicide wiki written on this website. It is very detailed. And I recently read that someone used a rope rated to break at 2000 lbs but the rope broke. So if you are going for full suspension, use a rope of breaking strength atleast 4000 lbs. And about 10 mm thick.
It was defective/serverly unlucky. You can't blame the rope it's a gymnastic ring strap. It's literally designed to hold/move with significant weight on it. If I would of tested it I wouldn't of had any issues
 
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Danterno

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Jan 22, 2020
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"The idea is to have enough pressure from the noose on the right side of the head, just below the jaw, to constrict the carotid artery. Interrupting the blood flow to the brain causes swift unconsciousness."
This is from the lostallhope site referred to in the OP. I was under the impression the carotid arteries run on both sides of the neck. So, how would constricting just the right side achieve complete oxygen starvation of the brain?
 
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nice work , thank you ; now because of you i must think of another method more peacfull thank full suspension .
 
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RottenApple

Loneliness is not a phase
Dec 7, 2020
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Do you guys think this rope could be good for partial suspension?

Image of the rope

polypropylene, 8mm x 20 m.

It's the most available option I have, cause I don't need to buy it online.
 
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Apr 29, 2021
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Not what I meant, if your full weight is in it the slip knot will tighten real tight and you're good, it won't come loose, if you're body is shaking like crazy however, there might be created some space and the slip knot can loosen.
However: found the solution: couple of double overhand knots at the loose end of the rope so it can't pass through the slip knot and you're good to go.

Also @Im2high4this thank you for making this thread. Cold harsh truth, all the info you need and straight to the point. Personally hanging has always been my method of choice regardless of pain. Never really was a suicidal person, not CTB'ing because of emotional reasons or mental illness but physical illness (brain damage) which made my life useless. Always thought to myself: if you're that worried about experiencing 1 min of pain, is your life even bad enough to CTB in the first place? However, def. pro-choice and not judging anyone, i get some people want more humane ways. Good luck to all!
How is it possible for a slipknot to loosen?
 
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"The idea is to have enough pressure from the noose on the right side of the head, just below the jaw, to constrict the carotid artery. Interrupting the blood flow to the brain causes swift unconsciousness."
This is from the lostallhope site referred to in the OP. I was under the impression the carotid arteries run on both sides of the neck. So, how would constricting just the right side achieve complete oxygen starvation of the brain?
They do run both sides of the neck so if doing full suspension I don't understand the advice to put it on the side either. Seems unreliable information.
 
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TheSDMan

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Aug 19, 2021
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Any contra-indication of using a pull-up bar fixed by screws in the wall or wardrobe for hanging?

Then just a nylon climbing rope, surely try padded with a small towel

Thanks cheers
 
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Apr 9, 2023
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I've always wondered why hanging is a popular method. It's painful and it is not very reliable, you can still make it less painful and you can do certain things to increase the chances of you catching the bus. If your neck doesn't do the "snappy snappy" then you will be left to slowly (and painfully) asphyxiate to death.
 
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Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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I've always wondered why hanging is a popular method. It's painful and it is not very reliable, you can still make it less painful and you can do certain things to increase the chances of you catching the bus. If your neck doesn't do the "snappy snappy" then you will be left to slowly (and painfully) asphyxiate to death.
Please do some research on hanging. Neck breaking is either Judicial or in the movies. Unless you completely screw it up, you pass out in seconds. The better the setup, the fewer seconds.
 
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