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S like Siren
Enlightened
- Apr 29, 2021
- 1,556
I hate psychiatrists and psychiatry ... I have had bad experiences. At first I trusted blindly and believed in psychiatry but after having experienced it on my own skin I was deeply disappointed.Here where I live, psychiatrists ruin your life if you rely on them.the whole psychiatric system sucks
wtf is critical psychiatry? my experiences have been good. but I can completely see how it can go bad fast and you can get stuck in a horrible cycle of being treated like shit and labeled as difficult, and losing autonomy.
Worndown
Illuminated
- Mar 21, 2019
- 3,569
Psychiatry is not an exact science. One person tries to identify and treat unseen problems with another. With luck the solution can be found quickly. Often it takes time and the problems could have changed by then. Like chasing a mouse.
I don't like how arrogant they are, when we have to suffer the side effects and no-one knows if the medication will work or not. I'd like choices, rather than the psychiatrist giving me no choice.
Worndown
Illuminated
- Mar 21, 2019
- 3,569
The "bedside manner" of many Dr's could be improved. Probably caused by the incredible effort it took to get the degree and maintain a practice.
With luck you can find someone that has a better attitude. But, they will also tell you things you might not want to hear. It is not always an easy process so honesty and attitude could be confused.
With luck you can find someone that has a better attitude. But, they will also tell you things you might not want to hear. It is not always an easy process so honesty and attitude could be confused.
FuneralCry
Just wanting some peace
- Sep 24, 2020
- 42,427
I have heard many stories of people's lives ruined by psych drugs. For many people psychiatry seems to do more harm than good.
Just to say, I'm not anti-medication. I was scared of it for years, but it's worth trying and has its risks. It's more that psychiatrists haven't given me much information or any choice about medication, even though I also don't have a diagnosis and even though they don't know what will work for me. I'd rather have a bit more input.
It's total junk science, the DSM is a complete scam, chemical imbalances are fictional, and psychiatrists are largely narcissists with a god complex. It is one of the most crooked, unethical professions in existence. All talk therapies are also a scam.
LastLoveLetter
Persephone
- Mar 28, 2021
- 654
The mental health conglomerate is one of the most corrupt and cutthroat industries I have had the displeasure of dealing with as a patient. In fact, the health industry in general has inflicted far more harm than good - physically and psychologically - but I will focus on mental health here.
As someone with conditions that cannot be cured or treated with a plethora of pills, CBT workbooks or positive thinking, I have been treated like a pariah. I have been told that I am non-compliant, refuse to engage, do not try hard enough and reject treatment.
In reality, I have tried everything reasonably accessible to me. I have tried every antidepressant I can get my hands on. I am currently trialling medical cannabis as a final resort. I have tried CBT, DBT, counselling, psychotherapy and every talking therapy option offered where I live, along with any private alternatives I could afford.
I never attended with the expectation I can be easily "fixed." I understood that effort, time and work was a requirement on my part. I tried my best to be open-minded and receptive.
Yet each time, I was also confronted with the same pseudoscientific drivel. That being deeply traumatised is a choice. Being immobilised by illness is a choice. Being suicidal is a choice. I just need to adopt a better mindset. I just need to make better decisions. I just need to choose recovery. This rhetoric seeped its way into every modality. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy was regarded as a panacea, despite its shoddy foundations and inefficacy - it was like being subjected to glorified gaslighting and brainwashing.
Challenging and criticising these methods was tantamount to heresy. How dare you claim that therapy doesn't work for you? Don't you realise that you are the exception to the rule? Can't you see that it's all your fault? No-one ever admitted that the interventions offered were inadequate, that they could be obsolete, that they were ill-equipped to help me.
I am currently doing EMDR and being confronted with the exact same nonsense as all previous therapies - the therapist does not know the first thing about trauma, yet is muddling their way through another CBT-inspired script before they progress onto the processing stage. If I could only make some friends, get married and work full-time, everything would fall into place. I just need to push through my severe chronic pain, get over my physical and mental illnesses and get out into the world. It is absolutely absurd. I have left sessions simultaneously crying with disappointment and laughing at the ridiculousness of it all.
The fact that it's socially acceptable for a therapist to blame their patient for their difficulties and place the onus entirely on patients to recover speaks volumes about psychiatry. Do we blame people with cancer for not being able to heal themselves? Do we blame people with asthma and tell them they are not trying hard enough to breathe air? Of course not. So why does the industry blame people with mental illnesses for not transforming into fully cured normies after swallowing some pills and summoning some magical mind power that everyone else apparently possesses to simply become more positive?
I am not opposed to all mental health treatments as a whole. However, I do reject an industry that abuses, gaslights, lies to and neglects its patients. I reject an industry that prescribes pills like Jelly Beans and then blames the patient if they do not work. I reject an industry that peddles pseudoscience and prioritises the narcissistic pride of its practitioners over the welfare of their patients.
As someone with conditions that cannot be cured or treated with a plethora of pills, CBT workbooks or positive thinking, I have been treated like a pariah. I have been told that I am non-compliant, refuse to engage, do not try hard enough and reject treatment.
In reality, I have tried everything reasonably accessible to me. I have tried every antidepressant I can get my hands on. I am currently trialling medical cannabis as a final resort. I have tried CBT, DBT, counselling, psychotherapy and every talking therapy option offered where I live, along with any private alternatives I could afford.
I never attended with the expectation I can be easily "fixed." I understood that effort, time and work was a requirement on my part. I tried my best to be open-minded and receptive.
Yet each time, I was also confronted with the same pseudoscientific drivel. That being deeply traumatised is a choice. Being immobilised by illness is a choice. Being suicidal is a choice. I just need to adopt a better mindset. I just need to make better decisions. I just need to choose recovery. This rhetoric seeped its way into every modality. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy was regarded as a panacea, despite its shoddy foundations and inefficacy - it was like being subjected to glorified gaslighting and brainwashing.
Challenging and criticising these methods was tantamount to heresy. How dare you claim that therapy doesn't work for you? Don't you realise that you are the exception to the rule? Can't you see that it's all your fault? No-one ever admitted that the interventions offered were inadequate, that they could be obsolete, that they were ill-equipped to help me.
I am currently doing EMDR and being confronted with the exact same nonsense as all previous therapies - the therapist does not know the first thing about trauma, yet is muddling their way through another CBT-inspired script before they progress onto the processing stage. If I could only make some friends, get married and work full-time, everything would fall into place. I just need to push through my severe chronic pain, get over my physical and mental illnesses and get out into the world. It is absolutely absurd. I have left sessions simultaneously crying with disappointment and laughing at the ridiculousness of it all.
The fact that it's socially acceptable for a therapist to blame their patient for their difficulties and place the onus entirely on patients to recover speaks volumes about psychiatry. Do we blame people with cancer for not being able to heal themselves? Do we blame people with asthma and tell them they are not trying hard enough to breathe air? Of course not. So why does the industry blame people with mental illnesses for not transforming into fully cured normies after swallowing some pills and summoning some magical mind power that everyone else apparently possesses to simply become more positive?
I am not opposed to all mental health treatments as a whole. However, I do reject an industry that abuses, gaslights, lies to and neglects its patients. I reject an industry that prescribes pills like Jelly Beans and then blames the patient if they do not work. I reject an industry that peddles pseudoscience and prioritises the narcissistic pride of its practitioners over the welfare of their patients.
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Alwaysbadtime
Enlightened
- Jun 28, 2021
- 1,158
I've known them to lie and falsely diagnose. And tack on really fucked up lies just to spruce up medical chart. They don't give a FUCK about attaching a life label that won't ever go away. One suggested I quit college and get a van and live in it and sell art. Others just sucked and were high on being rich. They don't give a fuck. It's like a 5 minute exchange and there are only so many meds. They are just above being as useless as a pharmacist. (my opinion).
Though if one is schizophrenic or got something serious they should definately get/take meds.
Though if one is schizophrenic or got something serious they should definately get/take meds.
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I tried the whole psychiatry route and I gotta agree with people in this thread. It's a useless scam ran by mostly people with God complexes.
Oh my methods aren't working on an individual that's considered sick by what I studied? And they came to me for help? Hmm yea it's clearly because they're "non compliant" and don't want to get better.
Useless. They should be put on the meds they just throw at problems.
Oh my methods aren't working on an individual that's considered sick by what I studied? And they came to me for help? Hmm yea it's clearly because they're "non compliant" and don't want to get better.
Useless. They should be put on the meds they just throw at problems.
Yes, I guess I would describe myself as anti-psychiatry. However, I don't think that all psychiatric medications are necessarily bad. In fact, I think they can be very helpful. Personally, antidepressants help me a ton with my PMDD. But I've had very bad experiences with psychiatrists and other mental health professionals. I see them as mostly being treatment gatekeepers. I go in already knowing the medication I want prescribed (which I figure out through my own research), and then I just hope they'll prescribe it to me. But I would never trust them with my mental health. They're only good for handing out prescriptions, as far as I'm concerned. And I don't have that much more faith in psychotherapy. I've had so many bad experiences with therapists. So yeah, fuck mental health professionals. In my extensive experience with them, they suck.
I hate how they don't even discuss the possible side-effects. What the fuck happened to informed consent?
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neitherherenorthere
Experienced
- Apr 22, 2020
- 223
Not totally anti-meds or other treatments, but highly skeptical. Doctors need to be more honest about medication effects. (As an aside, I think the lack of candor is partly due to ignorance on the part of the prescriber. Psychiatrists obviously have no excuse, but plenty of people get their meds from their regular doctor, and they just don't know.)
There needs to be more unbiased, well-done research about medications, and not just in perfect, laboratory conditions. Publish case studies about people. Get as much information out there as possible, independent of pharma company money. I don't know about regulatory bodies in other countries, but the FDA needs to get out from under regulatory capture. The whole field of psychiatry is just a cruel fucking joke right now. Treat people like human beings and patients who need care, not guinea pigs.
This seems to have turned into a rant, sorry. This topic is so complex and there's so much to say about it, but can't brain very well right now. It's all a horrible catch-22. I'm blaming the alcohol.
There needs to be more unbiased, well-done research about medications, and not just in perfect, laboratory conditions. Publish case studies about people. Get as much information out there as possible, independent of pharma company money. I don't know about regulatory bodies in other countries, but the FDA needs to get out from under regulatory capture. The whole field of psychiatry is just a cruel fucking joke right now. Treat people like human beings and patients who need care, not guinea pigs.
This seems to have turned into a rant, sorry. This topic is so complex and there's so much to say about it, but can't brain very well right now. It's all a horrible catch-22. I'm blaming the alcohol.
stygal
meow
- Oct 29, 2020
- 1,731
It's in interesting topic and my stance is that some of it might help someone (therapy sessions or meds) but others can't be helped because it's not one-size-fits-all.
Plus psychiatrists seem to be very quick when it comes to the diagnosis of any mental illness instead of keeping an open mind and maybe just listen to the person or actively try to change "negative/bad" things in their surroundings with them instead of just pushing for meds and a fucking diagnosis and only tell them very superficial things.
All in all I think I've been misdiagnosed and treated with "indifference" by therapists and I'm glad health care is free in my country because otherwise it only would've been a waste of my money.
Plus psychiatrists seem to be very quick when it comes to the diagnosis of any mental illness instead of keeping an open mind and maybe just listen to the person or actively try to change "negative/bad" things in their surroundings with them instead of just pushing for meds and a fucking diagnosis and only tell them very superficial things.
All in all I think I've been misdiagnosed and treated with "indifference" by therapists and I'm glad health care is free in my country because otherwise it only would've been a waste of my money.
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they/them
- Jul 13, 2021
- 79
If we're specifically talking about psychiatrists, I've had pretty bad experiences.
Doctors misdiagnosed me when I was like 5 and overdosed me on meds. Now my body doesn't really take to any anti-psychotic or anti-depressant the way it's supposed to, but no psychiatrist has ever made an effort to understand that. They don't really listen to me when I tell them I'm having side effects on low doses.
It's either that, or just a complete refusal to actually diagnose me because they "don't want to put me in a box" when I'm begging for a label so I can understand myself better and explain my experience. I'm actually surprised that people here have an experience of being misdiagnosed many times given my experience of being denied diagnosis at all (aside from the one time I was misdiagnosed as a child).
Because of all that, I've been unmedicated for years. I just don't want to go through the process of trying out so many different meds and fucking up my body because psychiatrists don't believe me. I'm not anti-medication, I think it's very important for most people, but in my very specific case... I just can't do it.
Therapists have also been an... Interesting experience for me. I've tried a few types of therapy, varying success. A few male therapists have behaved inappropriately towards me, commenting on my body. They're also arrogant about "figuring me out" when I'm not hiding anything. I'm very open to them about my mental illness but they treat me like I have secrets and get very proud of themselves when they "solve them". I've had a much better experience with women as therapists. My current therapist is pretty alright, I like her.
Despite my bad experiences I'm not really sure where I stand. I think a good psychiatrist/therapist is important, but they're hard to find from what I can tell. You usually have to find someone who specializes in trauma and even then, it's hard. There are good therapists, but there's also a lot of arrogant dumbasses who don't know what they're doing.
Overall I think the field needs a lot of fixing. Honestly I don't think there's enough people with mental illness in the field. Neurotypicals aren't going to fully understand our experiences, so having people who DO understand is important. That's why I tried to go to school for it, but... It was just bad. The profs really hated mentally ill people, ironically, and it kind of told me why things are the way they are. I ended up dropping out.
Sorry about the rant, I have a lot on this topic because it's really complicated and there's a lot of layers.
Doctors misdiagnosed me when I was like 5 and overdosed me on meds. Now my body doesn't really take to any anti-psychotic or anti-depressant the way it's supposed to, but no psychiatrist has ever made an effort to understand that. They don't really listen to me when I tell them I'm having side effects on low doses.
It's either that, or just a complete refusal to actually diagnose me because they "don't want to put me in a box" when I'm begging for a label so I can understand myself better and explain my experience. I'm actually surprised that people here have an experience of being misdiagnosed many times given my experience of being denied diagnosis at all (aside from the one time I was misdiagnosed as a child).
Because of all that, I've been unmedicated for years. I just don't want to go through the process of trying out so many different meds and fucking up my body because psychiatrists don't believe me. I'm not anti-medication, I think it's very important for most people, but in my very specific case... I just can't do it.
Therapists have also been an... Interesting experience for me. I've tried a few types of therapy, varying success. A few male therapists have behaved inappropriately towards me, commenting on my body. They're also arrogant about "figuring me out" when I'm not hiding anything. I'm very open to them about my mental illness but they treat me like I have secrets and get very proud of themselves when they "solve them". I've had a much better experience with women as therapists. My current therapist is pretty alright, I like her.
Despite my bad experiences I'm not really sure where I stand. I think a good psychiatrist/therapist is important, but they're hard to find from what I can tell. You usually have to find someone who specializes in trauma and even then, it's hard. There are good therapists, but there's also a lot of arrogant dumbasses who don't know what they're doing.
Overall I think the field needs a lot of fixing. Honestly I don't think there's enough people with mental illness in the field. Neurotypicals aren't going to fully understand our experiences, so having people who DO understand is important. That's why I tried to go to school for it, but... It was just bad. The profs really hated mentally ill people, ironically, and it kind of told me why things are the way they are. I ended up dropping out.
Sorry about the rant, I have a lot on this topic because it's really complicated and there's a lot of layers.
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Midgardsorm
Paragon
- Apr 28, 2020
- 917
To me psychology is starting to look like some kind of religion.
I need to comply, believe that something works, meditate, harness some kind of metaphysical energy by controlling emotions ( Chi? Last time I checked it wasn't backed up by science ). If I do not heal, I'm being treatment resistant or I'm not trying hard enough.
Psychiatry does use science through medications but the brain is a very complex structure for us to simply drop a bomb on it.
They don't know what they are actually doing.
Most SSRI takes time to work and it does by changing things on the brain that might or not work and might or not cause side effects.
They are treating vulnerable people and it's not good to feel that people are either toying with you or using you as some kind of lab experiment.
I need to comply, believe that something works, meditate, harness some kind of metaphysical energy by controlling emotions ( Chi? Last time I checked it wasn't backed up by science ). If I do not heal, I'm being treatment resistant or I'm not trying hard enough.
Psychiatry does use science through medications but the brain is a very complex structure for us to simply drop a bomb on it.
They don't know what they are actually doing.
Most SSRI takes time to work and it does by changing things on the brain that might or not work and might or not cause side effects.
They are treating vulnerable people and it's not good to feel that people are either toying with you or using you as some kind of lab experiment.
Rabitfever
Member
- Mar 18, 2020
- 77
I wouldn't even be on this site if my life wasn't ruined by a psychiatrist who prescribed me benzodiazepenes and made me cold turkey it
Superdeterminist
Enlightened
- Apr 5, 2020
- 1,876
I'm pretty anti-psychiatry mainly because I had a godawful experience with a psychiatrist, but in addition to that, I really don't buy into their strategies to treat mental distress. I think they know very little and I think their effectiveness is highly questionable.
SleepDealer
Your Imaginary Friend
- Aug 13, 2021
- 138
I don't have many experiences so I don't have a strong opinion. I just don't want anyone inferring with my intent to CTB.
settheory
Bundle of perceptions
- Jul 29, 2021
- 457
The state of psychiatry right now is still horrible to say the least, but i am not against the concept of changing one's state of mind into something more desirable to them as a whole as long as it is consentual.
but who will believe someone who is in psychiatry?
yes - no one. and this sucks.
yes - no one. and this sucks.
again_noidea
Experienced
- Apr 22, 2021
- 254
It is a scam. Society is fucked up in so many ways that a lot of people get a some form of depression, and the medical profession still insists that depression is a problem of the individual. I find it ridiculous at best.
Apathy's Girl
Student
- Jul 20, 2020
- 102
There are good and bad psychiatrists out there. I went to one who was awful, didn't listen to me, gave me a false diagnosis. So what did I do? I stopped seeing him and started looking for someone better. I'm an adult who is ultimately in charge of my own life (whether I want to live or die and how I chose to do it). I saw other psychiatrists that I only went to one visit because I could tell right away they were not going to be a good fit for me.
I finally found one that I love. Granted I am on a lot of meds and still suicidal but she also takes a more holistic approach. She had me get different vitamin levels checked and we found out I was severely deficient in vitamins D and B so we're treating that. She also suggests CBD to aid with sleep and other natural remedies. I know without her I would be dead already. She treats me like a real person, like she actually sees me.
Yes there are a lot of horrible psychiatrists out there but there are some good ones, too. Just remember, if you're seeing someone you don't like then stop seeing them and find someone else (if you really want to keep having a psychiatrist at all). The choice is yours, everyone on this site are adults. We control our own destiny.
I finally found one that I love. Granted I am on a lot of meds and still suicidal but she also takes a more holistic approach. She had me get different vitamin levels checked and we found out I was severely deficient in vitamins D and B so we're treating that. She also suggests CBD to aid with sleep and other natural remedies. I know without her I would be dead already. She treats me like a real person, like she actually sees me.
Yes there are a lot of horrible psychiatrists out there but there are some good ones, too. Just remember, if you're seeing someone you don't like then stop seeing them and find someone else (if you really want to keep having a psychiatrist at all). The choice is yours, everyone on this site are adults. We control our own destiny.
They wrongfully diagnosed me and had me sedated with antidepressant since I was 15 until I was 22, when I weaned myself off them. In the meantime, I was developing B12-deficient dementia. They robbed me of my autonomy and my health.
There are decent professionals out there, but you need to know what to look for.
There are decent professionals out there, but you need to know what to look for.
hellispink
poisonous
- May 26, 2022
- 1,229
I think they do more harm than good. Most of the medications they give have very bad and harmful side effects. Usually those side effects can lead to other health concerns. They only care about doing their job and cashing their checks. They rarely feel empathy or think twice before handing out medication. I have almost ctb because those pills worsened for me ( i tried more than 7 different types). Not just that but they make you dependent and addicted to them. Withdrawing is a nightmare and most people spend years with it without any of their problems being fixed or helped so its like a drug to make the symptoms feel less but at the end it is not worth
I've never actually been to a psychiatrist, but my understanding of them is that they're more focused on the medication component which I'm not comfortable with anyways. They can help some people (which if it does, awesome) and I'm not against medication on an individual basis, but I think patients need more information and say in what's happening than many people seem to get. I do have a therapist- who is great- and I'm pretty supportive of that when it's available. Obviously there are bad therapists or bad matches and it doesn't help everyone, so regardless of what you're examining taking patient consent, experiences and preferences into account is really important
Yes I am. Being given wrong psychiatric medication for 16 years is a big part of why I'm doing this.x
Too medication focused. Otherwise I have nothing against them. It just that good therapy takes time, patience, heart, money, studies. Medication is cheap, fast solution and even then for many just placebo. There are people though who actually benefit from specific medication(s). Seems like minority to me.
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